Hello Abednego,
You wrote:
"because Adam introduced sin into the human race (Romans 5:12-14).
I don't agree with this.Although you wrote many good things also in this topic, I want to oppose you in this respect.
Romans 5 v 12 writes:
"Therefore , just as the sin entered the world through one man , and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men , because all sinned- ".
What did Adam do. He obeyed to the devil. in this way he became the servant of the devil . He gave his kingdom overe to the devil.
Now the devil had become the master of the world. He came with all his bad' fellow-travellers', falsehood -demons, sin-demons, illness-demons and confiscated earth. In this way the cosmos came into the influence sphere of the evil one. This occupier now tried to change and transform this nice whole to a part of the kingdom of evil. Sin, lawwlessness from this moment on could infiltrate the cosmos. This well- ordened and functioning total was infiltrated with destructing forces and laws.
The following of this occupation is that mankind is now surrounded with dark and evil powers. Mankind is individually seduced, infiltrated and brought to obediance to these forces from the dark world and in this way mankind is also submitted to death..
Just as death has found its way to all who have sinnend, so Jesus has found the way to life for all who obey him.
Man is not automatically from his birth a sinner, just as he is not an ill person automatically. He has no inherited sin, (original sin), he has no hereditary debt; he has no hereditary taint.
Adam has only given over the world to satan and everybody is oppressed biy satan and seduced by satan to sin.
Adam has nothing to do with the whole thing. His role was over, when he had obeyed to satan.
The devil is the real enemy. He has brought the lie of original sin and so on , this falsehood into the world via Augustinus as the first one, who brought it to a definition. All the texts , used for it, are extremely weak. I call them: Genesis 6 v 5, Genesis 8 v 21, Job 14 v 4 and, (what they call the 'king's text): psalm 51 v 7.
But satan needed to remain invisible for the natural Christian, after Paul had made him absolutely visible in Ephesians 6 v 12.
But since the devil has made himself invisible through the errings of :
- original sin
- hereditary debt
- hereditary taint,
many people say:
"It is all the guilt of Adam. I cannot help to be born from him. It is his guilt and -if you think it through- it is the fault of the Lord himself".
Romans 3 v 23 says:
"All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God".
Yes....but they have been seduced themselves for their own reponsability and cannot point back to Adam.
By the way Abednego; did you already read my 'biblestudies' in the forum 'Biblestudies'. For a man like you it is very basic, but perhaps....
Greetings
Ger |
