L'effet tunnel surprenant de la chimie interstellaire - MAGONIE
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Les documents Majestic 12 - MAGONIE
Voir à ce sujet un extrait, ci-joint, de mon livre OVNIS vers la fin du secret ?
L'analyse de ces documents suggère fortement qu' ils ont été manipulés, ce qui amène à suspecter une dose de "désinformation amplifiante", selon le principe : mélanger des vérités avec des mensonges qui seront vite dénoncés. Je signale que l'auteur du livre Clear Intent, justement cité par Greslé p. 9 (Greenwood et non pas Randle, mais Randle aussi !) est de ceux qui ont totalement rejeté les documents de Cooper...
Il y a deux documents nouveaux, signés Roosevelt, au début du livre, qui n'échappent pas à cette critique. Un élément qui me paraît particulièrement suspect est la découverte supposée d'un "moteur atomique" et de matières fissiles (U 235, plutonium) à bord d'une soucoupe en1941 ou 1942, qui aurait aidé les Américains à fabriquer leurs premières bombres atomiques... Là, ça "craint" énormément !
G.B.
EXTRAIT:
Extrait de mon livre OVNIS. Vers la fin du secret ? (JMG,2010)
Chapitre 7 Révélations spectaculaires et désinformationn pages 266 à 270
1998-1999 : une avalanche de nouveaux de documents
Les critiques virulentes contre le document SOM1-01 sonnaient-elles le glas de l’affaire Majestic-12 ? Pas du tout, car une nouvelle vague, plus importante, ne tarde pas à arriver : un premier lot de 125 pages en 1998, puis un paquet plus important encore en 1999, le total atteignant alors près de 2 000 pages. Depuis lors, d’autres documents ont encore fait leur apparition, mais en moins grand nombre, semble-t-il, et de moindre intérêt. Le contenu du premier lot, de 1998, porte toujours sur la découverte et l’étude secrète des ovnis accidentés, à partir de 1947. Ce sont le Dr Robert Wood et son fils Ryan qui en dévoilent l’existence à une conférence à New Haven le 11 octobre 1998. Le Dr Wood est l’un des chercheurs les plus réputés en ufologie. Docteur en physique de l’université Cornell, il a fait toute sa carrière à des postes de responsabilités dans l’industrie aérospatiale américaine, notamment la société McDonnell-Douglas. Son fils Ryan est un ingénieur en informatique qui a travaillé dans de grandes entreprises : Intel, Digital, Toshiba.
Les Wood étudiaient depuis un certain temps ces documents qui leur avaient été fournis par le chercheur californien Timothy Cooper. Celui-ci dit les avoir reçus d’un agent des services secrets qu’il appelle “Cantwheel”, mais dont il ne donne pas l’identité véritable. Ces documents sont rendus disponibles en novembre sur internet, sur le site de Joseph Firmage, un jeune homme d’affaires qui a fait fortune dans l’informatique à la “Silicon Valley”, et qui s’est reconverti de manière spectaculaire dans la recherche sur les ovnis (11). Signalons qu’il s’en est maitenant retiré et n’a ainsi fait qu’une brève carrière ufologique. Pour sa part, le Dr Wood les publie sous forme d’une brochure de 190 pages de grand format, The Majestic Documents, reprenant également les documents précédents (12).
Une fois de plus, les critiques pleuvent. Certaines sont graves et il devient vite évident que ces documents sont pour la plupart, sinon en totalité, des fabrications, en dépit des arguments de Wood père et fils. Il serait beaucoup trop long de les détailler, mais donnons quand même ici une idée de ce débat, ainsi que du contenu des documents, qui n’est pas non plus sans intérêt. Le premier document est une curieuse étude, datée de juin 1947 et signée par les deux grands physiciens Robert Oppenheimer et Albert Einstein, intitulée “Relations avec les habitants de corps célestes”. Le texte est intéressant, mais comporte des fautes bizarres, dès le titre. Le mot céleste est écrit en anglais “celestrial” au lieu de celestial, ce qui fait douter. Dans une analyse convaincante, le physicien Bruce Maccabee déclare le document faux. A cela Wood répond qu’Einstein, le véritable auteur, ne maîtrisait pas bien l’anglais, et sa secrétaire non plus !
Les documents suivants tournent autour de la découverte d’un ou plusieurs véhicules accidentés en juillet 1947. Il y est question, bien sûr, du crash de Roswell, mais les choses se compliquent un peu. Ce sont :
- une instruction (Field Order) donnée début juillet à une unité spécialisée, la “Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit (IPU)” de se rendre immédiatement sur les lieux ;
- le “résumé” de l’IPU, document de sept pages daté du 22 juillet. Celui-ci décrit sommairement la découverte de deux objets volants entre le 4 et le 6 juillet, l’un près de Corona, site “LZ-1” (LZ, pour Landing Zone) – on reconnaît là le ranch de Brazel - et l’autre à environ 30 km au sud-ouest de Socorro, près d’Oscura Peak, proche du site de l’explosion de la première bombe atomique. Sur ce deuxième site, on a trouvé cinq cadavres, d’environ 1,50 m de haut, la peau gris rose, pas de cheveux, le corps mince, vêtus d’une combinaison ajustée, à l’épreuve du feu. Ils sont sexués mais de manière peu visible. D’autres corps ont été trouvés près du site LZ-1, ainsi que des parties de corps d’animaux à l’intérieur de l’appareil à LZ-2. Peu après la découverte, quatre techniciens sont tombé gravement malades et trois sont morts d’hémorragie ;
- une instruction donnée le 8 juillet au général Twining de se rendre à White Sands pour faire une évaluation des ovnis qui y sont conservés ;
- un rapport de Twining du 16 juillet, de trois pages, intitulé “Air Accident Report”, qui décrit la soucoupe trouvée près de Victorio Peak (site absent de la carte routière du Nouveau-Mexique : faut-il comprendre Oscura Peak ?), en forme de “beignet” d’environ 10 m de diamètre (35 pieds). A l’intérieur, un compartiment suggère la présence possible d’un “moteur atomique”. Les scientifiques allemands de Fort Bliss et White Sands (c’est là qu’était notamment von Braun) n’ont pu identifier cet appareil comme un engin secret humain. Selon Oppenheimer et von Karman, c’est le corps même de l’appareil qui pourrait faire partie du système de propulsion (une idée qui figurait déjà dans le livre du colonel Corso : l’appareil pourrait se charger électriquement…) ;
- un mémorandum du CIG (“ Central Intelligence Group”, précédant la CIA qui va être mise en place le 18 septembre, le même jour que l’US Air Force). Daté du 19 septembre, et signé Hillenkoetter (Directeur du CIG puis de la CIA dans la foulée), ce texte d’une seule page dévoile l’existence d’un troisième site, à 50 km (30 miles) à l’est du terrain d’aviation d’Alamogordo (plus tard Holloman), découvert le 5 juillet !
- vient ensuite un “Mission Assessment”, de 19 pages, daté du 19 septembre, qui inaugure le sigle “ULAT” pour désigner les ovnis (“ Unidentified Lenticular Shaped Aerodyne” ). Là, il y a un petit problème : les deux zones de crash sont inversées. LZ-1 est placée près de Socorro ;
- enfin, une pièce importante, non datée mais écrite d’après le contexte en 1952, le “Premier rapport annuel” du Groupe Majestic-12. De nouvelles précisions sont apportées, sans toutefois clarifier complètement ce scénario d’accidents en série. On y évoque l’éjection à haute altitude d’un “cylindre de sauvetage” (escape cylinder) à la suite d’une collision entre deux soucoupes d’origine interplanétaire. Des cinq corps retrouvés, deux étaient dans le cylindre. Mais la suite n’est pas claire, envisageant l’hypothèse assez incroyable d’une collision avec un appareil expérimental (on a observé la fusion de trois spots radar). Mais après tout, qu’en savons-nous ?
Ces pages ont été, bien entendu, passées au crible par les sceptiques et, dès les premiers jours a éclaté une première grenade, le mot “retro-virus” qui apparaît dans le document de 1952. Or le mot n’existait pas encore à cette date. Le physicien Jack Sarfatti, qui se situe sur l’aile “avancée” de l’ufologie américaine (il a eu une rencontre rapprochée impressionnante dans son enfance) a recommandé aux Wood d’admettre l’erreur, mais ils n’ont pas voulu reculer, même sur ce point. Un autre gros pépin a été la mention d’une vieille légende ufologique, la disparition d’un régiment Néo-Zélandais à Gallipoli, dans les Dardanelles en 1915. Or il a été prouvé que cette histoire était fausse. “Erreur fatale”, proclame alors Barry Greenwood, de plus en plus sceptique, dans son bulletin Just Cause !
Pour couronner le tout, Timothy Cooper finit par être soupçonné de les avoir fabriqués, y compris le document SOM1-01. Le Britannique Timothy Good dévoile en septembre 1999 que certains défauts typographiques apparaissent à l’identique sur des lettres qu’il a reçues de Cooper. Est-ce le coup de grâce ? Certains l’annoncent déjà, comme Jan Aldrich, ancien militaire très hostile à toutes ces histoires (Roswell compris), qui s’exclame sur internet : “Clouons tous ces dindons ! (Let’s nail these turkeys!). Cela dit, sur cette question des défauts typographiques notés par Timothy Good, le Dr Wood réplique qu’il a fait étudier le problème par un expert, or celui-ci n’a pas jugé l’argument décisif, car ce type de défaut peut être commun à de nombreuses machines.
Si ces documents sont faux, vient alors la question : qui les a donc fabriqués et dans quel but ? La plupart des sceptiques ne poussent pas très loin la réflexion : pour eux, ce sont des faux fabriqués par des escrocs qui veulent faire croire à toutes ces calembredaines ! Qui croire ? En réalité, cette énorme quantité de documents apparus de manière mystérieuse ces dernières années pourrait bien illustrer ce processus de divulgation progressive de l’information, déjà évoqué plus haut, qui serait poursuivi par certains services secrets désireux de débloquer à terme le verrou du secret, mais sans provoquer une explosion médiatique. Le jeu consisterait à toujours maintenir le doute en fabriquant des documents délibérément entachés d’erreurs. Ainsi, de l’information est mise en circulation mais on empêche l’opinion de s’emballer. On pourrait comparer cela aux barres de contrôle d’une pile atomique qui l’empêchent d’exploser (si tout va bien). Au congrès international de Laughlin, de mars 2000 au Nevada, les Wood père et fils ont encore défendu avec une belle énergie leur point de vue radical, à savoir que ces documents sont essentiellement authentiques. Ils sont d’ailleurs attelés à une lourde tâche, l’analyse de plus de mille pages de nouveaux documents qu’ils ont reçues de Timothy Cooper en 1999, et qu’ils ont l’intention de divulguer progressivement sur internet. J’ai soumis à Ryan Wood cette idée de divulgation progressive avec des erreurs délibérées, mais je ne l’ai visiblement pas ébranlé. Il ne semble pas que la question ait beaucoup avancé depuis lors. L’autre hypothèse, plus brutale, reste bien sûr celle de la désinformation “amplifiante”, pour discréditer l’ufologie. Celle-ci semble être pertinente dans d’autres cas, comme l’affaire Bennewitz, et quelques autres épisodes de révélations trop sensationnelles, qu’il faut rappeler maintenant, en revenant en arrière au début des années quatre-vingts.
I Have Family Living There!
Published on Jul 8, 2013
William Cooper lecture 'Behold a pale...: « http://youtu.be/yUbFwqglIaA »

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Damn, Where Is It? It Clearly Existed … He Was Holding It.
The Ramey Memo: Best Roswell Evidence ever found.
JULY 8TH GEN. RAMEY ROSWELL MESSAGE. Researcher for the International UFO Museum and Research Center. He is also head of the computer department of the Eastern NM University in Roswell and spent time in the Army as a criptographer. Through computer enhancement and his experience in deciphering code, Don has been able to read much of the text on the letter in the photo.The photograph was taken on July 8, 1947 by a news photographer, Bond Johnson. The glossy print Donald used was taken directly from the original negative.
The letter was typed on a teletype which has a fixed width for each letter. This realization helped Don in his task. The deciphered text is below. I have used italics where Don was uncertain about the letter and asterisks where a letter or word is missing. The translation is broken by the lines on the original letter. Some words are missing due to the position of the letter in Ramey's hand and the fold in the letter.
So, here it is:
RECOVERY OPERATION WITH ROSWELL DISK 274 (OR 074?) MJ -12 AT THE
*WORD MISSING* AND THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK YOU FORWARDED TO THE TEAM AT FORT WORTH,TEX.
M*SS*** (MISSING OR MESSAGE?) ON THE "DISK" MUST HAVE SENT *** (THE?) ***** LABORATORY
*WORD MISSING* *R*ENT (URGENT?). POWERS ARE NEEDED SITE TWO AT CARLSBAD N. MEX.
*WORD MISSING* SAFE TALK NEWSPAPER MEANING OF STORY AND *WORD MISSING*
NEXT SHOW *WORD MISSING* OF WEATHER BALLOONS 400-K* 509 AND LAND L*** DENVER CREWS.
TEMPLE (Signature Line)
Now, lets see what we can learn from this. The letter obviously mentions a disk at Roswell but we all knew it had crashed there. It mentions Denver crews. The Lowrey Army Air Fore Base in Denver was the mortuary for the Army in 1947. So that fits. The Army normally calls people, civilians or military, who are killed in a crash "casualties" rather than "victims". The word "victims" externalizes the issue. "They're not OUR people."
The "TEMPLE" in the signature line was a secret CIA classification, like paging Dr. Blue or Dr. Red in a hospital. But there was a Major Temple on the staff of General Dolittle in 1947. Dolittle was sent to Sweden in 1946 to investigate UFO's sighted there. So there is a connection there.
The most interesting revelation is the mention of Carlsbad. There has never been a mention of Carlsbad as a possible site of a UFO crash. Louis Rickett was assigned to Carlsbad in 1947. Don has done some preliminary research into the possibility of a crash there. He has discovered that a military group from White Sands Missle Range visited Carlsbad the week before the Roswell crash. And, several Civil Air Patrol groups from California visited Carlsbad arriving on C-64 transports and Army planes. That's a lot of military "field trips" to the Caverns. Don is now pursuing a review of the visitor's logs of Carlsbad Caverns for that period to see if these soldiers signed in. I'll keep you posted!
Un lien intéressant - MAGONIE
J'ai trouvé l'article sur internet (daté du 8/7/13) et je ne possède pas la version papier.
Attention cependant car les dates de parutions Internet et Papier sont parfois différentes.
Je profite de l'occasion pour signaler que l'affaire "Roswell-Doodle" a été évoquée dans une grande partie de la presse (sur internet)
Pour ceux que cela intéresse :
http://news.google.com/news?ncl=dzO7QTjrKPIMaaM97B7DH03IQPQCM&q=roswell&lr=French&hl=fr
Je ne les ai pas tous lu mais il semble que certains articles soient plus neutres...
Voir par exemple l'article ci-dessous :
OVNI ou pas OVNI ?
D'une certaine manière, Google relance le débat autour du 66ème anniversaire de l'affaire Roswell, l'une des plus retentissantes et des plus étranges affaires autour de la présence ou non de débris provenant d'une soucoupe volante extra-terrestre sur le sol terrien.
Le 4 juillet 1947, le fermier William "Mac" Brazel et son fils découvrent "une large zone de débris brillants, bandes de caoutchouc, feuilles d'étain, un papier plutôt dur et des barres", comme ils l'ont expliqué au journal Roswell Daily Record. Partageant leur découverte avec leur plus proche voisins, ces derniers conseillent au fermier de s'adresser au représentant de l'ordre le plus proche. Au shérif, ils seront plus expéditifs en disant qu'ils pensent avoir assisté à un crash d'une soucoupe volante, d'un objet volant non identifié, ou OVNI.
Le 8 juillet, le lieutenant Walter Haut, représentant du Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF), fait un premier communiqué de presse à la demande du colonel William Blanchard commandant de la base de Roswell. Il y annonce qu'ils ont récupéré une soucoupe volante écrasée près d'un ranch à Roswell. Cette annonce, qui déclenchera les passions des médias à l'époque, se succédera un autre communiqué expliquant qu'il ne s'agissait que d'un ballon sonde. Tentative d'étouffement de l'affaire ou bonne foi de l'Air Force ? Le débat reste ouvert, l'affaire s’agrémentant régulièrement d'éléments venant confirmer ou infirmer chacun des bords.
C'est ce premier communiqué qui est célébré par Google en ce 8 juillet, à travers un Doodle interactif prenant la forme d'un mini-jeu où l'utilisateur dirigera un extra-terrestre qui devra utiliser certain objets sur des éléments terriens afin de récupérer les trois parties de son véhicule pour repartir vers sa planète.
En savoir plus: http://www.maxisciences.com/google-doodle/roswell-google-cree-un-doodle-mini-jeu-ovni-pour-celebrer-le-66eme-anniversaire-de-l-039-evenement_art30084.html
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SOURCE :
http://www.maxisciences.com/google-doodle/roswell-google-cree-un-doodle-mini-jeu-ovni-pour-celebrer-le-66eme-anniversaire-de-l-039-evenement_art30084.html
JL.S
Réaction de G.B.
Deuxième Réaction de A.S.:
Oui, G., et les professionnels de la désinformation vont se retrouver au chômage: le travail se fait tout seul !
Mais ne vous désespérez pas: dès qu'on se spécialise un peu, dans quelque domaine que ce soit, on mesure bien vite le fossé qui sépare "l'initié" du grand public. Ce n'est pas particulier à l'ufologie: le même phénomène existe dans le développement des sciences, les infos financières, les ficelles de la politique... Ce qui paraît dans la presse doit être "accessible" au premier venu - c'est-à-dire avoir un contenu minimum et très approximatif (sans parler de l'inévitable orientation idéologique qui s'y superpose).
Restons philosophes, et faisons bien la différence entre cette bouillaque de grande diffusion et le vrai travail qui ne peut intéresser qu'un petit nombre. On peut au moi! ns s'y livrer en paix !
Headline Edition, July 8, 1947!
The Roswell UFO Crash was broadcast on Radio and the story was also printed in newspapers so why did they cover it up.
Have You Ever Looked Into The Abyss? It Would Seem Like A Perfect Hiding Place!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4z0CQHM40 (The Abyss 1989)
Russian Navy UFO records say aliens love oceans
“Fifty percent of UFO encounters are connected with oceans. Fifteen more – with lakes. So UFOs tend to stick to the water,” he said.
On one occasion a nuclear submarine, which was on a combat mission in the Pacific Ocean, detected six unknown objects. After the crew failed to leave behind their pursuers by maneuvering, the captain ordered to surface. The objects followed suit, took to the air, and flew away.
Many mysterious events happened in the region of Bermuda Triangle, recalls
retired submarine commander Rear Admiral Yury Beketov. Instruments malfunctioned
with no apparent reason or detected strong interference. The former navy officer
says this could be deliberate disruption by UFOs.
Vladimir
Kremlev for RT. Click to enlarge
Navy intelligence veteran, Captain 1st rank Igor Barklay comments:
“Ocean UFOs often show up wherever our or NATO’s fleets concentrate. Near Bahamas, Bermudas, Puerto Rico. They are most often seen in the deepest part of the Atlantic Ocean, in the southern part of the Bermuda Triangle, and also in the Caribbean Sea.”
Another place where people often report UFO encounters is Russia’s Lake Baikal, the deepest fresh water body in the world. Fishermen tell of powerful lights coming from the deep and objects flying up from the water.
In one case in 1982 a group of military divers training at Baikal spotted a group of humanoid creatures dressed in silvery suits. The encounter happened at a depth of 50 meters, and the divers tried to catch the strangers. Three of the seven men died, while four others were severely injured.
“I think about underwater bases and say: why not? Nothing should be discarded,” says Vladimir Azhazha. “Skepticism is the easiest way: believe nothing, do nothing. People rarely visit great depths. So it’s very important to analyze what they encounter there.”
Meanwhile Russian Navy officials have denied the collection of UFO-related encounters exists. A source in the Navy’s service staff said the story may have its roots in the reports of vessel commanders, which describe locating objects of unclear but Earthly origin.
“An illusion of a UFO encounter can result from large fish shoals, floating garbage or natural phenomena,” ITAR-TASS news agency cites the source.


When You Find One, You Will Find Many Others …
http://www.space.com/17738-exoplanets.html
Are we alone in the universe?
UK astronomers join hunt for alien life, new level of code-breaking may be required
London: Are we alone in the universe? We could be closer to finding out.
British astronomers are joining forces to hunt for ET — or at least for signs of his existence.
In a move that comes only weeks after the UK Government closed its UFO hotline, scientists from 11 institutions, including the Jodrell Bank observatory, have formed a network to help those working in different fields of research to share their expertise.
Telescopes will listen for radio and light “broadcasts” beamed by TVs, radios, satellites, radar and lasers from other worlds.
And should a message from little green men be intercepted, we might even be ready to reply. Communications experts more used to working on the intelligence of chimpanzees and dolphins are trying to devise ways of decoding any messages and framing a response.
The network, coordinated by Dr Alan Penny of the University of St Andrews, was officially launched on Monday at the National Astronomy Meeting, organised by the Royal Astronomical Society, at St Andrews, Scotland.
The UK SETI Research Network will bolster Britain’s long-running involvement in the US-based Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence, or SETI, project.
Dr Penny said the interception of light and radio signals that were wholly artificial and could not be made by nature would be proof that we are not alone.
“If ET fired a powerful laser through a big optical telescope to send a signal or announce their existence, those pulses could be detected over many thousands of light years,” he said.
“We need to get more time on telescopes for the project and then we’ll get a flood of data. At the moment if we detected a signal that was unambiguously artificial that would be it.
“You wouldn’t need to understand the message — its nature would tell us that we are not alone. Then once you’ve found it you can look more closely to see if there is a message. If it looks as though there is, [intelligence agency] GCHQ can get going and try to decode it.”
Others believe that a new level of code-breaking will be required.
Dr John Elliott, an expert in human and animal communication from Leeds Metropolitan University, said: “Standard decipherment and decryption techniques used by the military and security agencies are not going to help much.
“To put the challenge into context, we still have scripts from antiquity that have remained undeciphered over hundreds of years, despite many serious attempts.”
However, some scientists say that if we alert hostile aliens to our existence we risk an invasion that could lead to the end of life on Earth.
They argue that if ET has the technology to cross space to reach us then any defences we have will be all but useless.
And physicist Stephen Hawking has warned that aliens may plunder Earth for its resources.
But Professor Ian Crawford, of Birkbeck, University of London, told the conference that any aliens “would have made themselves known by now”.
Dr Robert Massey, of the Royal Astronomical Society, said: “If we found even one civilisation elsewhere, it would be an entirely sensational result.”
Un lien intéressant - MAGONIE
Ne manquez surtout pas aujourd'hui ce lien intéressant :
http://www.google.fr
Pourquoi?
Il y a une vidéo explicative ici :
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/roswell-ufo-incident-google-celebrates-2037618
Curieusement, l'animation n'existe pas sur Google Suisse (www.google.ch).
Réaction 1 de JF.S:
Un article du figaro sur le sujet :
Ainsi j'apprends que le fait de douter d'une explication officielle concernant Roswell me range inéluctablement la catégorie suivante :
"passionné de petits hommes verts" ET "des théories conspirationniste".
On appréciera également le raccourci "Affaire Roswell/Autopsie d'un Alien"
Les 66 ans de l'affaire Roswell célébrés par Google
Ce 8 juillet, le moteur de recherche revient avec un jeu animé vintage sur ce crash emblématique et controversé d'un objet volant non-identifié dans le sud-ouest des États-Unis.
Google transporte les internautes dans une autre dimension ce 8 juillet, avec un mini-jeu consacré aux 66 ans de l'affaire Roswell en guise de doodle. Cette célèbre affaire est née du crash supposé d'un vaisseau spatial dans une zone désertique près de la ville de Roswell, au Nouveau-Mexique, dans le sud-ouest des États-Unis, où le cadavre d'un alien aurait été découvert. Ce dernier est le personnage principal du jeu. L'idée est simple: il se balade aux alentours d'une ferme, en pleine nuit, et récupère des objets pouvant l'aider à survivre.
En 1947, ce crash a créé des émois dans le monde entier, et est depuis considéré comme l'un des événements ufologues (spécialistes des ovni, ndlr) les plus célèbres. En cause: des débris retrouvés par le propriétaire du ranch situé près du point de chute de l'appareil, et dont les clichés ont fait la Une des médias à l'époque. En 1992, un mini-documentaire stipule même, images d'autopsie à l'appui, que le cadavre d'un extraterrestre aurait été retrouvé à bord de l'engin.
Polémiques en série
Une controverse en a résulté, le gouvernement américain assurant qu'il ne s'agissait que d'un ballon-sonde top-secret destiné à espionner les expériences nucléaires militaires soviétiques. En pleine Guerre Froide, l'argument aurait pu faire mouche, mais les passionnés de petits hommes verts et des théories conspirationnistes sont restés persuadés du contraire.
Cette histoire est devenue un phénomène de culture populaire, et Roswell un quasi lieu de pélerinage ufologique. Les séries Roswell, racontant le quotidien étrange d'adolescents dans cette ville, et X-Files, où deux agents du FBI enquêtent sur des phénomènes paranormaux, sont notamment inspirées de cette affaire.
«Mon Dieu, c'est vraiment arrivé!»
En juillet 2012, un ex-agent de la CIA a relancé les soupçons. Il a affirmé avoir découvert des preuves, dans les archives de l'agence de renseignement, prouvant que le gouvernement américain avait menti. «Une boîte a principalement attiré mon attention et notamment ce mot: Roswell. J'ai fouillé à l'intérieur, mis la boîte sur une étagère et dit: ‘mon Dieu, c'est vraiment arrivé!'». Il y aurait trouvé des «écrits et centaines de photos» validant la thèse pro-alien. Preuve que «l'affaire Roswell» n'a pas fini de semer le trouble.
SOURCE :
http://www.lefigaro.fr/culture/2013/07/08/03004-20130708ARTFIG00270-les-66-ans-de-l-affaire-roswell-celebres-par-google.php
He Screamed In Terror: "God, Give Me Strength!"
Let There Be Light 1946 US Army Hospital Documentary Directed by John Huston [technical advisor was Dr. Benjamin Simon who appears prominently throughout this film]
Hey Larry, This Is Orville & Wilbur! We Flew Today! - Say What? Are You Calling From A Bar?
Mr. Schermer, a Mars rock discovery harbouring possible past microbial life is a totally different matter than highly intelligent life coming here, wouldn't you agree?
Published on Jul 3, 2013
Les fiches Wikipédia les plus souvent modifiées, '24 Heures', Lausanne, 4.7.2013 - MAGONIE
Selon une étude menée par quatre chercheurs américains, Ségolène Royal est le sujet le plus contesté, remis en question et révisé parmi les pages françaises de l'encyclopédie en ligne Wikipédia. La socialiste fait jeu égal avec George W. Bush aux Etats-Unis. Outre sa page, d'autres sont fréquemment l'objet de nombreuses modifications par les internautes, comme les fiches des ovnis, des Témoins de Jéhovah, de Jésus ou de Freud. je [Jean Ellgass]
http://www.24heures.ch/
Voir aussi :
- http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2013/07/03/97001-20130703FILWWW00324-wikipedia-royal-la-plus-controversee.php
- http://www.leparisien.fr/politique/segolene-royal-le-sujet-le-plus-controverse-de-wikipedia-02-07-2013-2947937.php
Etude originale (http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1305/1305.5566.pdf) :
Yasseri T., Spoerri A., Graham M., and Kertész J., The most controversial topics in Wikipedia: A multilingual and geographical analysis. In: Fichman P., Hara N., editors, Global Wikipedia: International and cross-cultural issues in online collaboration. Scarecrow Press (2014).
[Magonie] COBEPS : décès de Lucien Clerebaut
Hommage à Lucien Clerebaut
Chers
lecteurs,
Nous apprenons avec tristesse le décès de Lucien Clerebaut,
mercredi, suite à des complications liées à une opération
chirurgicale.
Lucien était le cofondateur de la SOBEPS et son moteur.
Perpétuellement présent, actif et efficace, il a beaucoup apporté à l'ufologie
belge. Plus largement, son intelligence et sa gestion de la vague belge en ont
fait une personnalité bien connue des Belges.
Nous saluons ce grand homme et
sommes en empathie avec ses proches.
http://www.cobeps.org/fr/lucien_clerebaut.html
Nothing But The Science, So Help Us God!

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Scientists and international government officials gather to discuss UFOs (Video) | Openminds.tv
Scientists and international government officials gather to discuss UFOs (Video)
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The Center for UFO Research held the 2013 Symposium on Official and Scientific Investigation of UAP (UFOs) this weekend in Greensboro, North Carolina. Open Minds was there to cover the event and got exclusive interviews with the scientists and government officials who were there to discuss their research and investigations.
The event was financed and organized by Kent Senter, who has researched the UFO phenomena for over 25 years. He was one of the founding members of the North Carolina chapter of the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON). Senter is battling an incurable cancer, and wanted to put together a credible conference as part of his “bucket list.” Early on his cancer was misdiagnosed, and with some of the money he was awarded in a settlement, he was able to bring in the best people from all over the world to accomplish his goal of elevating the credibility of UFO research.
In order to help him gather the most credible international group, he enlisted the help of Leslie Kean. Her book, UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On the Record, was a New York Times best-seller, and has garnered positive attention from mainstream media and scientists.
Included among the international speakers were two representatives from official government UFO research organizations. One of those is Xavier Passot, the head of GEIPAN, a UFO investigative group that is part of France’s CNES (National Centre for Space Studies), which is the equivalent to NASA here in the US. The other official was Jose Lay, the international affairs director of Chile’s Committee for the Study of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena (CEFAA). This organization is a branch of the General Administration of Civil Aeronautics, which is similar to our FAA.
Other international speakers included retired Major General Wilfried De Brouwer of the Belgium Air Force. He presided over the official investigation of 2000 reports of triangular shaped UFOs over Belgium from 1989 to 1991. He says the witnesses included highly credible individuals including pilots and police officials.
An incredible case involving the Unites States military was presented by retired Colonel Charles Halt, who in 1980 was the deputy base commander at RAF Bentwaters in England when he and other Air Force personnel witnessed UFO activity over the period of a few nights. Bentwaters was being leased by the US from the UK government, and the files on this case were included in the UK government’s recent release of UFO files.
Representatives from academia also spoke, such as Alexander Wendt, professor of International Security, who spoke on the UFO taboo. Similarly, emeritus professor of sociology, Ron Westrum spoke on how society deals with controversial discoveries. Astronomer and author, Jeffrey Bennett, presented on the scientific search for extraterrestrial life, and Dr. Richard Haines presented UFO investigations of reports from pilots.
Finally, Nancy Talbott spoke on the science of crop circles, and Timothy Good, UK author and researcher, spoke on the history of UFO research.
The gathering was a once in a lifetime chance to visit with officials, military personnel, professors, and other credible researchers from around the world. We got a lot of great interviews and besides this video, will be posting several others focused on the work of some of these incredible people.
Chez nous aussi, évidemment... - MAGONIE
qui connait le programme ECHELON ?
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/video/2013/07/04/il-y-a-un-vrai-prism-a-la-francaise_3441637_3224.html
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2013/07/04/revelations-sur-le-big-brother-francais_3441973_3224.html
On comprend pourquoi Paris n'a pas crié bien fort. Notez que je ne suis pas contre le principe, si c'est au nom de la sécurité nationale.
UFO Digest Newsletter July 7, 2013 - WEEKLY NEWSLETTER

UFO Digest Newsletter July 7, 2013

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Happy 4th of July America! This week's newsletter begins with The Octopus from Hell by Steve Erdmann. Then Sean Casteel profiles Dr. Barry Taff and the psychic wars. Next, Diane Tessman asks are aliens part of God's domain. This article was prompted by an article by Nigel Grogan who writes did God create the universe. Scott Corrales reports on a UFO in Argentina. Then, Kathy Marden and Denise Stoner on why we should take alien abductions seriously. Roger Marsh reports on a chevron UFO. Next, Doc Vega publishes a 3-part sereis on UFOs, Vikings and Bigfoots. Nick Pope highlights the secrets contained in the MoD UFO files. Then I interview a witness to several bizarre sightings and report on a UFO sighting on Presque Isle.Carolyn Shield updates us on the great Bee kill off. Charles Moulton writes about ghosts and hauntings and finally Shy Brown continues with Rotten to the Core. Enjoy Dirk
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The Octopus from Hell by Steve Erdmann .
Seymour started with mystery deaths and drug dealings in Mariposa County,
California and recounted comments by Vivian L. Wagner of DIG (Decency in
Government) and her letter to President Reagan about the missteps DIG
encountered in the court system. Her frank opinion was rewarded by a prospective
meeting, but her husband, attorney Chuck Wagner decided to “close shop”, desert
his practice and disappear. Seymour never found out why. More...![]()
Dr. Barry Taff: A Veteran Of The Psychic Wars by
Sean Casteel. Dr. Barry Taff has been on the forefront of the academic
study of psychic phenomena for decades and has long documented the connection
between psi events and UFOs. His own psychic experiences began in childhood, and
he has no doubt of the reality of some form of coupling between human
consciousness and a field of energy that we do not as yet understand. More...![]()
Are Aliens Part of God’s Domain? by Diane
Tessman. If you believe in God, you have to ask yourself, “Did God create
aliens too?” If you do not believe in God, you have to wonder how life managed
to pop up on far distant planets which have environments that seem hostile to
life. If aliens are from other dimensions, is our God in their dimension too? If
aliens are future human time travelers, did God make it to the future? More...![]()
Did God Create The
Universe? by Nigel Grogan. I am an avid reader of UFO Digest
articles and am continually amazed at the wide variety of theories and
explanations for the existence of UFOs, covering all aspects of the phenomena,
from their origins to their ultimate intentions. More...![]()
UFO Photographed in the River Islands of Victoria in
Argentina by Scott Corrales. A member of a photo club based in
the city of Victoria was shooting the landscape when an unidentified flying
object turned up in one of the pictures. The image was submitted to experts on
the subject, who will know whether the object is a UFO or not. More...![]()
Why Take Alien Abduction Seriously? by Kathy
Marden . You and your spouse are en route to your weekend camping enclave
near Buena Vista, Colorado. Family and friends await your arrival. You have
descended Kenosha Pass, a 10,000 foot high cut that leads toward Jefferson and
the South Park Valley, when suddenly your eyes were drawn to a lighted object in
freefall. You begin to shift sideward toward the desert floor, under someone
else’s control. As if only a moment has passed you find yourself miles away, on
a different stretch of road, with no memory of how you arrived there. Fifty-five
miles has simply vanished. More...![]()
California mom-daughter encounter chevron UFO by
Roger Marsh. A California mom and daughter northbound along Highway 88 in
Alpine County reported a "chevron-shaped object just above the tall tree line"
that hovered and slowly moved south about 8 p.m. on January 8, 2013, according
to testimony from the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) witness reporting database. More...![]()
UFOs, Vikings and
Bigfoots? by Doc Vega. Let me preface this article with an
interesting story that came from a tabloid I had read back in the mid 1990’s. It
pertains to the following article and attests to the nature of the mighty
Vikings. According to the account an ancient record that was handed down
describes a UFO encounter from the distant past experienced by the Leif
Erickson’s crew who were on their way to North America. I am not sure about what
medium that this historic account was recorded in as the Vikings did not
supposedly have a written language. Even though the Norsemen were considered
incredible craftsman, weapon makers, and accomplished artists, there was no
written word. Perhaps these accounts came as a result of pictograms or engraved
images. More...
Also
read: UFOs,
Vikings and Bigfoots? Part II
and UFOs,
Vikings and Bigfoots? Part III![]()
National Archives
UFO Files by Nick Pope. In my first column for UFO Digest, back
in April, I gave an overview of the five-year program to declassify and release
the entire archive of British Government UFO files, sending them from the
Ministry of Defense to the National Archives. What I couldn’t reveal at the time
(as the story was under strict media embargo) was that the final batch of files
was soon to be released. Now that this has occurred, I can write the final
chapter in what’s been one of the biggest UFO-related stories in recent years
and answer the questions I’m most often asked about all this. More...![]()
Floating Orb Playing With Planes and More! by
Dirk Vander Ploeg.I had the opportunity to interview Carolyn, who now lives
in Petrolia, Ontario, which is approximately 25-miles from Sarnia, Ontario. She
is a 38-year old woman who has worked as an actor, model and in film production.
She has experienced several strange events over the past few years. More...
Also
read: UFO Sighting on
Presque Isle![]()
The Haunting Ground
Of Aristocrats by Charles Moulton. The greatest summers of my
childhood were spent in what now is one of East Sweden’s top tourist
attractions: Kalmar. The inner city today is the home of around 25 trendy
restaurants, museums, boat trip rides, beaches and a marvelous castle. Visiting
my grandmother, hearing my mother Gun Kronzell sing in concerts, playing with my
best friend on Sweden’s sunniest island Öland, visiting what my father Herbert
Moulton described as: “A magic tree that drops presents from its branches!”,
falling in love with the local girl: those were all memories concieved to adore.
More...
Also
read: The Eyre
Family Hauntings Part II![]()
Massive Bee deaths over 36 million found in Elmwood
Canada by Carolyn Shield. Canadian beekeepers have lost over
600 hives with the estimation of over 36 million honeybee deaths in Elmwood
Canada. The beekeepers noticed the bees’ deaths after GMO corn crops were
introduced to the farms. The European Union has placed a ban on GMO seeds due to
studies indicating they are responsible with pesticides for massive bees’
deaths. More...
From the Journal of Cheetah and Jane: Rotten to the
Core by Shy Brown. I had a strong intuition about people,
things and events. I mostly kept it to myself, since I was not a very vocal
child. After my near-death experience, I went back in the hospital three more
times before the age of six. I had three surgeries to correct my problem with
being “wall-eyed.” For those of you who do not know what “wall-eyed” means, this
condition is the exact opposite of being cross-eyed. More...![]()
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Dr. Clarke, I Neither Confirm Nor Deny!

We're done here, now go away
David Clarke, the tireless Sheffield Hallam University professor whose decade-long quest in getting his country’s National Archives to release UFO files compiled by the British Ministry of Defence, reached the end of the road on June 23 with a final data-dump into the public domain. And he signed off on that last batch with I-told-you-so relish. There were no smoking guns amid the 52,000 pages released since the incremental undertaking began in 2009, and even veteran British researcher Jenny Randles lauded Clarke’s persistence.
To much fanfare, the British Ministry of Defence finally ended the public distribution of its largely banal and pedestrian UFO case files last month/CREDIT: superscholar.org
“I may not agree with everything that he says on the subject — but I do with much of it and respect all of his views about the remainder,” she wrote in an addendum to Clarke’s parting shots. “I certainly know that he is nobody’s puppet. And I, for one, say thank you for his efforts.”
Based solely on the evidence presented by UK authorities — and the MoD’s ostensible exculpatory transparency — Clarke’s obituary on that nation’s ufology would appear well sourced. But by pulling in some American “Skeptical Inquirer” types to fortify his position, Clarke clearly overreaches in his alacrity to settle the worldwide UFO problem once and for all. No room, of course, for the testimony of former Belgian Air Force general Wilfried de Brouwer concerning the F-16 scrambles during 1989-90 European wave, or flight-safety issues raised by former NASA scientist Richard Haines, both of whom presented their evidence at a symposium just last weekend in Greensboro, N.C. Truth is, you could spend all night listing Clarke's points of omission and it wouldn’t make a dime's worth of difference here. Not when you forsake good data and credible witnesses for shopworn cliches, as Clarke chose to.
“... My favourite quote of the whole two day media event,” he wrote of the reception to the final MoD document delivery, “came from the New York Times as follows: ‘Dr. Clarke, who has approached the UFO phenomenon from a sociological perspective, noted that many UFO sightings came from the Scottish city of Glasgow between 10 p.m. and midnight — around the time the pubs are closing.’”
Wow. Drunk eyewitnesses again. Fascinating. Zzzz.
Clarke also took a few shots at fellow British ufologists Nick Pope and Timothy Good for holding “preconceived beliefs” in their failure to trust The Official Story “because it is in their interest [as UFO authors] to keep the mystery alive and kicking.”
Clarke draws a particularly critical bead on Pope, who anchored the MoD’s UFO desk from 1991-94. He charges Pope with hypocrisy for requesting that his own UFO-related records remain exempt from disclosure.
“The reason these papers are being with-held,” Clarke alleges, “is because they contain information about Nick Pope’s ‘conversion’ to UFO believer that followed his alien abduction experience in Florida in 1991. This happened shortly before he joined the ‘UFO desk’ when he claims he had little or no interest in the subject.”
Now that’s actually interesting.
In denying the abduction story in an email to De Void — “I've never even seen a UFO!” — Pope sought to clarify the record. To wit:
“Some UK-based ufologists took exception to the fact that I used some pseudonymous cases in my book on alien abductions, ‘The Uninvited’. I replied that witness confidentiality applied without exception and added ‘even if it was me’ as a joke. The joke spread and I replied that I could "neither confirm nor deny" (NCND) the rumor. NCND is a Ministry of Defense in-joke, just as ‘I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you’ is an in-joke in the intelligence community.
“The only documents that I requested the MoD withhold are ones relating to my work as a freelance journalist, broadcaster and PR consultant. Clarke is one of a small group of UK ufologists who are absolutely obsessed with me, in view of my government work on UFOs. This bizarre groups of oddballs — which includes a deeply unpleasant individual who runs an anti-Semitic blog — have submitted multiple FOI requests to MoD about me and poison the blogosphere with incessant hate-filled rantings about my government work — in many people's eyes I still work for the government and am personally responsible for the UFO cover-up! I took the view — and the MoD agreed — that documents relating to my business activities were private and should certainly not be passed to some of the more unpleasant characters who lurk on the fringes of ufology.”
Hypocrisy? Well, at the very least, it tells us the MoD still has stuff tucked away in its UFO files. Pope also reminded De Void — as indeed, Clarke reminded his readers — that Clarke never possessed a security clearance during his UFO research and has reviewed only declassified, or unclassified, material.
“I suspect there's some sour grapes here,” Pope went on, “because one of the documents in MoD's UFO files referred to Clarke and a couple of his fellow ufologists as ‘the UFO spotters’ - a pejorative UK term meaning someone with an obsessive, nerdish and naïve perspective on the subject. It was one of my successors who wrote that, but as I'm the 'public face' of MoD's UFO project, ufologists tend to blame me for just about everything!”
Then there’s this caveat from prolific British researcher and author Good, who greeted the MOD’s “glasnost” with a shrug: “That was done in a civilian desk within the MoD which Nick headed ... The real work is done behind the scenes (e.g. military intelligence). You may recall that in ‘Above Top Secret’ I exposed for the first time the Top Secret UFO research unit then at RAF Rudloe Manor (now elsewhere).”
This is running long for a little blog, so let’s wrap it up on a word from Jenny Randles, who discovered something from these MoD crumbs that we Yanks regrettably picked up on from the Pentagon decades ago, after it was far too late: “... The MoD was never — and is not now — the correct body to collate such data and spend precious resources on a subject that really needs to be demystified and placed into the realms of scientific study.”
OK, so who wants to pony up and start from scratch?
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Mr. Pope, Abducted?

British UFO Document Release is Really a Coverup, says UFO Abductee Nick Pope
| UFO Abductee Nick Pope, formerly of the MoD UFO Desk |
- A letter from a school child in Altrincham, Greater Manchester, to the MoD, dated January 2009, asking if aliens exist after she had seen some strange lights, and including a drawing of an alien in a UFO waving
- A report received via the UFO hotline by someone who had been "living with an alien" in Carlisle for some time
- A report from a man from Cardiff who claimed a UFO abducted his dog, and took his car and tent, while he was camping with friends in 2007
Dr David Clarke, according to The Telegraph, "has been the National Archives 'UFO consultant' for five year project, during which it has made public more than 52,000 pages of official government files relating to mysterious sightings." Clarke is a former reporter and currently course leader and senior lecturer in journalism at Sheffield Hallam University teaching media law and investigation skills. His Ph.D is in Folklore from the National Centre for English Cultural Tradition, University of Sheffield. Since 2008 he has been working with The National Archives (TNA) as their consultant for the ongoing release of the UFO files created by Britain's Ministry of Defence.
Clarke says that
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| Robert Hastings |
As I noted in my last article, given the extremely biased and propagandistic treatment of the UFO subject one consistently finds on Nat Geo, it might reasonably be argued that the network has been working behind the scenes with the CIA to debunk the phenomenon.
Clarke wrote in 2010 that
So much for "full disclosure!" Probably the reason that Pope opposes the release of such documents is that they undoubtedly would contain more comments like these:
"A great pity that a more permanent abduction by aliens cannot be arranged. I'm not surprised that they did not want to keep him." (one of Pope's managers scribbled this comment in a margin of one of the redacted documents released by the MoD and dated 10 October 1995)
There is a very interesting 2009 article in Tim Printy's Sun-Lite about Pope by someone calling himself "Col. Arnold Moulder" (but is probably Colonel Mustard, with the candlestick, in the library). It describes Pope's efforts to hide these documents, and gives numerous other examples of Pope playing fast and loose with facts.








