Unafraid of alienating themselves
September 7
Two Maine men who claim they were abducted by extraterrestrials aren't shy
about retelling their stories
By Matt Byrne mbyrne@pressherald.com
Staff Writer
By their own account, there may be no good, earthly reason for Jim Weiner and
Chuck Foltz to do what they plan to this weekend.
Chuck Foltz, left, and Jim Weiner, both of whom say they were abducted by a
UFO in 1976 in Allagash, are among the participants at the “Experiencers Speak”
convention.
Tim Greenway/Staff Photographer
A drawing from a book by Raymond E. Fowler drawn by Chuck Foltz shows an
aerial view of the canoe.
Gordon Chibroski/Staff Photographer
There is neither a fortune to be made nor fame to acquire.
Yet on Sunday evening before a crowd of strangers and old friends, the two
longtime buddies will recount in stunning detail their recollection of the
night, nearly 40 years ago, when they say they and two others were plucked from
a canoe on Eagle Lake in the Allagash Wilderness Waterway and taken aboard an
alien spacecraft.
"Number one, we have nothing to gain by this except public ridicule," said
Foltz, 63. "Our goal would be to enlighten, inform and put some type of positive
direction on this."
At the second annual "Experiencers Speak" conference, which began Friday and
ends Sunday at the Clarion Hotel in Portland, Weiner, Foltz and more than a
dozen other speakers will tell their stories of close encounters. Weiner and
Foltz's will be the final presentation, scheduled for Sunday evening, in a slate
of programs meant to provide comfort and understanding for a group of people
whose experiences nearly by definition relegate them to the fringe.
That little of what will be said can be independently verified is of little
concern to the believers, for their knowledge is firsthand, many say.
"The goal is to help experiencers come to terms with what's happening to
them, and get over their fears and get on with their lives," said Audrey Hewins
of Oxford, the organizer of the conference and whose regional group, Starborn
Support, hosts monthly meetings for a few dozen people to help them cope with
their abduction or close-encounter experience.
In the world of ufology -- the oft-marginalized study of unidentified flying
objects and the accompanying foreign beings that purportedly interact with
people on Earth -- the "Allagash incident" ranks among the most substantiated in
the United States.
The case was the subject of a 1993 book, "The Allagash Abductions," by
longtime UFO investigator Raymond E. Fowler, which bills itself as "undeniable
evidence of alien intervention" into human life. The tome is a relatively
straightforward account of how Fowler encountered the four men, interviewed them
and had them undergo regression hypnosis -- a form of guided relaxation that
purports to allow people to retrieve lost or repressed memories.
Through independent sessions of hypnosis performed years after the 1976
encounter, Weiner, Foltz, Weiner's twin brother, Jack, and a fourth companion,
Charles Rak, each recounted slightly different versions of the same, horrifying
story of being used as human test subjects by an advanced, celestial race of
humanoid figures who took them aboard their craft that night.
When they were asked about the experience during an interview Friday, the
voices of Jim Weiner and Foltz did not not waver. Their gaze maintained a steady
intensity as they recalled the brilliant orb of light that first hovered over
the trees. They described a beam of light emanating from the orb and surrounding
them, before they were whisked to parts unknown.
The experience aboard the craft, where they were probed and tested by
four-fingered beings with almond-shaped eyes and languid limbs, appeared to have
taken about two hours, according to their accounts.
But when the experience occurred, the group of four felt no gap in time. Only
later, when a large campfire built to burn for hours had seemingly died down in
a matter of minutes, did they realize they had "lost time," a blind spot in
their recollections that was only filled in later under deep hypnosis.
The steadfastness of their story has not deterred a legion of doubters,
debunkers and verbal assailants, though. They've been called crazy more times
than they care to remember.
Jack Weiner, 61, who suffers from multiple sclerosis and cannot easily travel
from his Vermont home, said in a telephone interview Friday that his experience
in Allagash refocused his career away from the arts and toward hard science and
mathematics. He doesn't care whether people believe his story, he said, and
dismisses debunkers as close-minded and sometimes ignorant of the breadth of
scientific knowledge.
"They weren't there," Jack Weiner said. "I didn't see them there. If they
want to stay ignorant, there's nothing I can do to change them. I know
differently from my own experience."
Rak, the fourth member of the canoe party, has been out of contact with the
group for more than two decades and could not be located for an interview.
But that does not deter Jim Weiner and Foltz, who are both from the Boston
area, from pursuing further study and inquiry into what they believe is a global
effort by world governments to systematically conceal from the public the truth
about the existence of alien life.
The nay-saying crowd, Weiner said, is a product of some restrictive worldview
that cannot possibly fathom that aliens exist.
"What we describe threatens them in some way," said Weiner, who works in
information technology at the Massachusetts College of Art and Design in Boston.
Be it social, religious or scientific beliefs, he said, "the only way they can
maintain a sense of self is by denial or accusation. It's much easier to say,
'Oh, you're making it up,' or, 'Oh, you're crazy,' or, 'You're a fraud.'"
Joe Cambria, who operates the New England UFO Research Organization and a
companion hotline for witnesses to report sightings, said he receives a steady
stream of calls, the vast majority -- as high as 90 percent -- from hoaxsters
and phonies.
"Then that final 10 percent is what's interesting," he said.
Skepticism is a requirement for any serious UFO inquiry, said Cambria, of
Wakefield, Mass. He is even skeptical of the use of the word "abduction."
"People are having (internal) experiences," said Cambria, his voice
rising.
"But kidnappings? Something's been going on out there, and it's been going on
out there since recorded time. We don't have an answer for it, but we continue
to study it."
The conference had a sold-out dinner for 60 Friday night, said Hewins, who
expects more than 100 people to attend the sessions over the weekend.
Matt Byrne can be contacted at at 791-6303 or at:
mbyrne@pressherald.com