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    Jan en Joke
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    06-07-2008
    Klik hier om een link te hebben waarmee u dit artikel later terug kunt lezen.Vergiste de apostel Paulus zicj niet heel vaak
    Hello, brother 570 ,

    You said, you are doubting, that Paul was inspired by the Holy Spirit, because he made mistakes.

    Now here is your first not quite correct idea.
    Lord Jesus wants all his sisters and brothers to be filled with the Holy Spirit. That is not the same as infallible.
    I know thousands of Christians, filled with the Holy Spirit. None of them has the idea, that he is infallible.
    But there comes forth from this, that we all should strive to become filled with the Holy Spirit, also YOU. This is an invitation to a great, wonderful, always more exploding joy, an invitation for YOU.

    Now here is your second thing, that is not quite correct. I don´t want to make you sad, but I have to say, that the general idea is amongst all Christians, that Paul is not the writer of Hebrews.
    The style of writing is otherwise than Paul had as style, the use of words is another sort of Greek.

    Now the third thing: In Hebrews 1 v 5 the unknow writer says in this epistle from - perhaps- the year 8o after Christ, (Paul was killed perhaps in 70),
    that he quotes Psalm 2 v 7:
    " He (the Lord) said to me:
    ' You are my Son' " .
    And only the last clause goes back to 2 Samuel 7 v 14, Indeed there the prophet Nathan speaks about David's son Solomon. The unknown writer of Hebrews states here that the coming Jesus is a son of mankind , real human .

    Now you state that Paul made a mistake, when he said in Acts 1 v 18:
    " Judas felt headlong , his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out.
    But not Paul is writing this book, but Luke, (compare Acts 1 v 1 with Luke 1 v 3). And Luke is quoting Peter.
    So we have to understand the thing like this, that Judas hang himself, but later on got loose from the cord and fell down to the soil.

    And what you wrote about 1 Corinthians 15 v 5, can be explained as a compilation.
    Paul knew certainly about the eleven, from Mark 16 v 14, and he knew about all the manifestations with Thomas and without Thomas . And he knew about all the other manifestations, John 20 v 19 - 29, , Luke 24 v 37. And he takes all this together to make the story not too long.
    Nothing to become nervous about.

    So I think, that all your questions are now answered. I shall be glad to answer more of them

    Greetings
    Ger
     

    06-07-2008 om 18:46 geschreven door Gerritse

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    Klik hier om een link te hebben waarmee u dit artikel later terug kunt lezen.Wat !!.:..geest, ziel en lichaam ..en niet: : ziel en lichaam
    Hallo Siddharta,

    Du bist darüber erstaunt, dasz Mensche einen Geist, eine Seele und ein Koerper haben.
    Die moderne Wissenschaft verweigert sich um eine Dreiteilung zu anerkennen, weil sie fürchtet das zu tun , damit die Sache nicht kompliziert wird und die Leute an einen Gott denken würden, der hinter allem steht.

    Aber die Bibel spricht deutlich von drei Teilen, die doch eine Einheit formen, so dasz wir nach unsserem Sterben und nach unserer Auferstehung auch wieder ein Koerper haben.

    1 Thessaonicher 5 v 23 sagt:
    "Er aber, der Gott des Friedens , heilige euch durch und durch, und euer Geist, samt Seele und Leib müsse bewahrt werden, unversehrt, unsträflich auf die Ankunft unsers Herrn Jesus Christus".

    Zu der ' Inneren Person', dem menschlichen Geist gehoeren die Glaube und das tiefere Kennen und auch das Gewissen.

    Das Gewissen ist so zu sagen 'der Verbindungsoffizier' im Gespräch mit der Seele. (Roemer 2 v 15).

    Auch die Seele hat drei Hauptteile: Vernunft, Gefühl und Willen. Wenn es gut ist zwischen Mensch und Gott, dann werden die drei Teile der Seele mittels dem Gewissen gelenkt von dem menschlichen Geist, der mit dem Heiligen Geist von Gott ist verbunden.

    Die drei Teile vom Koerper sind: Skelett, (Gerippe), Blut und Muskeln.
    Und das alles kann , wie Thessalonicher sagt unvershert bewahrt werden auf die Ankunft unsers Herrn Jesus Christus.

    Grusz aus Holland
    Ger

    28-06-2008 om 18:45 geschreven door Gerritse

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    Dear all,

    Following this biblestudy, but absolutely not with any relation to this the following:

    On suday we had a preacher in our midst, who is guiding a worldwide missionary team. He had chosen as his subject: Philippians 2 v 25:
    "But I think it necessary to send back to you Epafroditus, my brother, fellow worker and fellow soldier, who is also your messenger, whom you sent to take care of my needs.
    (26): For he longs for all of you and is distressed because you heard he was ill.
    (27) Indeed he was ill, and almost died. But God had mercy on him, and not only on him, but also on me, to spare me sorrow upon sorrow.
    (28): Therefore I am all the more eager to send him, so that when yoiu see him again you may be glad and I may have less anxiety" .
    ...........
    At first that name! Servant of the goddess of love'', (Apofrodite).
    So many Christians- out-of- the Gentiles change their names in somethiing respectable. Absolutely O.K.. But (let us call him) Epa did not do that.
    If he had wanted so.....
    of course we do not know if he acted like that
    ....this should have been a good introduction:
    "Yes ...yes ...you hear it exactly:. But I am a servant of Lord Jesus Christ, who ís LOVE".
    - Epa is 'a brother in the Lord' of Paul. Well all Christians are this, real brothers of each other, as things are well, perhaps even friends like Paul and Epa.
    - But there is more: Epa is not only a brother : he has become 'a fellow-worker'. He is not only as 'preach-consumer'....he has become a producer of 'work in the kingdom'.
    - However: Epa had made so much progress, that he could be a 'fellow-soldier' with Paul, genius as Paul was.
    - Epa had become so good, that the congregation in Philippi could send him with a message, in this case the reaching of a sack with money , a riskful job in those times.
    - Delegate (apostle) to Paul and Paul sents him back as an apostle, (delegate), (with this letter ?)
    - He became ill, very ill, Epa, somewhere during this difficult journey from Philippi, East-Greece , to Rome, (detention-place of aul). This man did not grudge the cost...to be a 'messenger of the Lord'.
    - But: he recoverd. And then Paul could send hin back.
    ....................
    Of course you have understood the message:

    You, brothers and sisters;
    - . if still you are no fellow-workere; become ACTIVE.
    Think no longer only:
    "What can the congregation do to make ME happy".
    Begin to think :
    "What can I do to make the congregation happy. Placing the chairs perhaps"

    - If you are a fellow- worker, but not yet a fellow- soldier: to the ' invisible' frontline. Exercise your spiritual gifts in the great war against satan.

    - if you are already a fellow soldier, if the leaders of the congregation can not yet give you an important, but difficult task...become a messenger of Jesus Christ too.
    .........
    Oh...how we were vigorous after this preach to be at least a fellow- worker.
    The chairs never were assembled so swiftly.

    I think, this messag is also useful to you.

    Bye
    Ber


    22-06-2008 om 18:04 geschreven door Gerritse

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