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    Jan en Joke
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    26-01-2008
    Klik hier om een link te hebben waarmee u dit artikel later terug kunt lezen.Wat bedoelt Job, wanneer hij spreekt, zoals in 1 v 21
    Brother Ger, In the book of Job.1:21
    what dose it mean Naked came I and naked shall I go
    dose it mean no cloths or something else.

    My answer comes.
    G.


    Dear Shennagirl,

    I repeat what a famous dutch comment wrote about this vers (Job 1 v 21)
    "Naked I came from my mother's womb
    and naked I will depart.
    The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away;
    may the name of the Lord be praised"....
    .................
    Without any possessions Job came from the womb of his mother. Without any possessions he shall go to the earth , the womb of al creation.
    The same identification of ´motherwomb´and 'the earth as womb' you find in Psalm 139 v 13 - 15.
    Job acknowledges the absolute sovereignty of the Lord and hallows his name. He did not serve the Lord- as the big liar, the devil, suggested - for the profit, but for himself ! Deeply touched by the sovereignty of the Lord he is brought to worship. This is the nucleus of religion: worshipping of the sovereignty of God.
    ................
    So ....the being naked has nothing to do with Job's birth an dying. It has a far deeper meaning: satan is a liar as far he said bad things about Job's religion. Job does not always hold up this firm attitude, see 3 v 1.; 9 v 22 and other places.

    But in this all there is a lesson for us. Ephesians 5 v 20 says:
    "always giving thankings to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus".
    And Romans 8 v 28 adds:
    "And we know that in all things God works for the good those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose".

    I hope to have given some more answers than you asked.

    Greetings
    Ger

    26-01-2008 om 16:31 geschreven door Gerritse

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    Klik hier om een link te hebben waarmee u dit artikel later terug kunt lezen.Is de doop in de Heilige geest er alleen voor predikers en zo
    Hello Elshevia,

    Well...serie 1 is on its way. All the questions are due to come here in the future.

    Now you asked:

    I have found that the Annointing of the Holy Spirit, is only Present when ministering like Praying for others, or Comforting
    Is this correct.

    No Elshevia, I don't think so. In the Old Testament it is often said, like in Numbers 11 v 25 about the seventy elders:
    "When the Spirit rested on them, they prophesied, but they did not do so again.
    You see as such , Numbers 24 v 2, 1 Chronicals 12 v 18, , 2 Chronicals 25 v 1 and other places.

    Before the conquest of our dear Lord Jesus the Holy Spirit was only temporarily with some people, just as you think he is only now with us when we are praying for others or comforting.

    But it is all more wonderful than you already think.

    John 7 v 39 says:
    " By these words ( see before) Jesus meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been gloriefied".

    Till the moment Jesus went to heaven to receive all the power in heaven and on earth on Ascension day the Old Testamentic situation remained.

    But at 'the great evening meal' Jesus said: ( John 14 v 16):
    " And I will ask the Father , and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever- the Spirit of truth".

    And that is so full of splendour Elshevia. The Holy Spirit is with us. For ever and ever and ever....if we do not make that Spirit sad.

    But if we are living with our Lord, the Holy Spirit gives us comfort in all situations.
    On the 26 th of Ocober my wife fell from the staircase and was very badly damaged. But in the first disastrous moment after that. I got a good advice in my heart:
    " Take notion of what is said in Psalm 50 v 23.There stands:
    "He who sacrifices thank offerings, honors God
    and he prepares the way
    so that I (God) may show him the salvation of God"..

    On that moment I was not ministring and not praying, only panicing.
    But the Holy Spirit was then and there present.

    Situation has a bit improved, but I think, my wife shall be in a nursing-home for the rest of her days, (she is 84), although she was only bruised and had nothing broken. But mentally she was already weakening and that process has got more momentum.

    Thank God Elsehevia for the Holy Spirit, who is always with you.

    By the way Els....I saw anywhere a question from you, whether it were possible that a person had the Holy Spirit in him and also a demon. Can you place this question in series 1.

    Greetings
    Ger

    25-01-2008 om 21:16 geschreven door Gerritse

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