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    Originally Posted by Shennagirl
    Brother. Ger i was reading in Jeremiah in 46:6 talks about stumble.
    i don't understand .because in 1 peter 2:8 talks about stumble to
    are they the same or they different. please explain


    Hello Shennagirl.
    Jeremiah 46 v 6 and 1 Peter 2 v 8 are two totally different places.

    Jeremiah 46 v 6:
    "The swift cannot flee
    nor the strong escape.
    In the north by the river Euphrates
    they stumble and fall".

    In Jeremiah there is talk of it, that Egypt , a very big world power in those days, will have a deciding defeat at Karkemis , (river Euphrates); they try to attack Babel, but it all ends in a horrible disappointment.
    "Their strong men do not escape from being killed, and their swift men cannot flee. They all are stumbling and falling.

    Every bibletext has a learning for us.
    In my young days there was also a very great worldpower, very bad, The Nazikingdom in Germany. They planned to attact another wicked country ,. the Sovjet union, but at Stalingrad, the blossom of their sons was killed and that was the beginning of the end of Nazi- power.
    It will allways go like that, as it went with Egypt and later with Babel....and much later with Germany ...and just some years ago with the Sovjet union. All these powers, enemous to God, will fall.

    And now for 1 Peter 2 v 8:
    "A stone that causes men to stumble
    and a rock that makes them fall".
    They stumble because they disobey the message- which is also where they were destined for".

    Jesus preached an evangely of the unvisible world, the world , where believers, filled with the holy Spirit, conquer satan in his own stronghold.

    In old days there were the Pharisees, having a treasure in their hands, all the learnings of the old Testament. But when Jesus came, pointing to new ways, lying in the unvisisble world.... because they wanted to know only the visible world, they said "No". His heavenly words did not answer to their earthly expectations.
    He became for them a stone, that caused them to stumble
    and a rock that made them fall.

    If they had said "Yes", then should have happened , what is said in v 9:
    "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God".

    But because they did not want to accept the message of Jesus, now...for their own responsability...they are destined to fall further and further down.

    This lesson for us: when we only accept Jesus for our salvation and when we don't want to accept anything more from him:
    - being reborn
    - being filled with the Holy Spirit
    - being filled with the gifts and the fruit of God the Holy Spirit,
    then we are in great danger to fall back under the constant attacks of satan.

    So the great lesson is : not remain standing with conversion , but go ahead with rebirth and baptizm in the Holy Spirit.

    Greetings
    Ger


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