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    Jan en Joke
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    15-03-2008
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    Hello Abednego.

    Good article, my compliments.Sound, thorough , solid. When I read it, I thought of a word by Paul. This word:1 Corinthians 4 v 3:
    " I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed I do not even judge myself".

    Paul was rejected nearly constantly. But he was a man, filled with the Holy Spirit. And he knew that he was bringing a message, that was given to him by this Holy Spirit. And he lived with his human spirit already in the heavenly realms. There he was fighting the devil in a tremendous way. And one of his big discoveries : Ephesians 6 v 12:....
    "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood , but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms".
    ......is only now newly discovered, since Augustinus pushed it aside with his ' original sin'., circa 400 after Christ.

    And that other great discovery in Ephesians 3 v 10:....
    "God's intrest was
    "that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms",
    which clearly says, that the church of the deciding age we have now, has to be filled with the Holy Spirit and has to fight the devil and his demons in his own strongholds in the heavenly realms and that only in this way, becoming spiritual in the good sense, victory is ours
    ....that discovery he made first and we are making it only now renewed.
    is also a fruit of his being active in the heavenly realms

    And this Paul with this wide field of observation, was placed IN these heavenly realms. And from there all fuss and all rejection here on earth are no more than mole-heaps.

    And every Christian, striving for the baptizm in the Holy Spirit is on his way, to become unassailable for rejection.

    This of course is not valid for people, who think that they are reborn and filled with the Holy Spirit, but who are in fact not like that or only just for a short time en route. But when you go further and further , just like Paul, you will grow and grow in your being rejection-proof.

    Greetings
    Ger

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    Originally Posted by Elshevia
    Thank you ger, for most informitive dialog, it has helped a lot. Now the next question is this nowhere in Scripture does it say that Jesus Christ delivered us
    from or dealt with s...n's powers at Calvary, He dealt with s...n's authority.
    the King James Version uses the greek words dunamis { power } and
    exousia { authority }. interchangeably which creates confusion, in its readers
    where other Bibles do not, in Colossians 1:13. "who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, where other Bibles say that Christ has delivered us from the authority of darkness, may I ask what you think of this wrong translation
    because these two words are not the same, it has been explained to me as....
    when you have the authority, you have the power,

    what is your idea on this ger. Elshevia.


    Hello Elshevia,

    Colossians 1 v 12 and 13 says in the New international version:
    "Let us give thanks to the Father who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in the kingdom of light.
    For he, ( the Father) has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves".

    Indeed these verses speak of the Father and not of the Son.
    But it remains a fact that the translation of K.J. was not quite correct and that modern translations have something more 'to the point'.

    But...is this catastrophal ?
    I make a sidestep now. From the 17 th century up to the 20 th century we had in Holland the 'Statenvertaling'.
    And there was standing in Genesis 22 v 1 that the Lord tempted Abraham, whilie in James 1 v 14 is standing:
    " ...God does not tempt anyone".

    But millions of Dutch Christians have found their Saviour in spite of this manco. And I am sure that millions of K.J.- readers have too.

    The word of the Lord is so strong, that little failures do no hurt it.
    Let us know at least this:
    The Lord God...to him all the honour...has saved us from the dominion of darkness.
    He gives us the status of conquerors of darkness an he gave us too the status of ' inheritance of the kingdom of light'.

    But we have to verify that in our lifes.

    I give you an example:
    When I had finished my schooling as a puiblic auditor, the head of the office sent me in 1957 into practise with these words:
    "Now mr Gerritse...you are now in full authority as a public auditor. You have all the licenses...but you don't have any experience 'in the field' except from what you experienced in your stage-period. You must make true in your behaviour and in your handling of all practice-matters that you are worth to exercise this magnificent function. But we all in the office want to help you in the first difficult years".

    Now the Lord has given us all these delightful things we have gained by the sacrifice of Lod Jesus and only by God's grace. It is now up to us to step into the works the Lord has prepared for us.

    Greetings
    Ger

    08-03-2008 om 16:33 geschreven door Gerritse

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    "Moet ik nu onder elk steentje kijken of er niet een duiveltje zit ?"

    Hello David,

    You wrote:
    ........
    I believe that we all (or at least most of us) have had an encounter with or have let ourselves be influenced by an untoward spirit. In fact, there is someone on the forum right now who I believe is letting themselves be affected by some kind of spirit and I don't mean the Holy Spirit.

    Sometimes we can believe we are receiving guidance from the Holy Spirit when it's actually the prince of the air doing the talking. Since scripture tells us he can appear as an angel of light if we aren't close to Jesus we can not discriminate and if we don't use Jesus name or pray in the name of Jesus we cannot guard against the spirit or make it go away.

    I don't look for demons under every rock but know they are there, can affect us, and are scriptural with at least two kinds being mention: demons that caused illness and demons that caused insanity. I'll write more on this later.
    .............
    My answer:
    I should like to give some new supply to what you already said.
    Satan with his helpers has spoiled us all. Just as he peeped at Kain and at certain moment said : "Aha...this is the good smell", (Genesis 4 v 7) he is watching all people. And because he is invisible, he can snatch us already in our childhood and so Romans 3 v 23 can say:
    "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God ".

    And of course people can think that the Holy Spirit is speaking to them , but it is in fact the devil, who has transformed himself into an angel of light, (2 Corinthians 11 v 14). But it is this: we have not made open all the rooms of our spiritual life to the Holy Spirit, who wishes to live in us, but eagerly wishes too to have all the keys of all the rooms.
    You can give those keys to him by constant praying and telling everything to him quite openly without hiding any circumstance.

    But....if your room is closed or if more than one room is closed, the devil makes it a dressing-room for himself. He puts on his 'angle-suit' and comes out to stupify everything.

    And if you are one of these people, who has not given up all the keys, then you begin to be in error.

    But if you are going on with the Holy Spirit, you also get the gifts of the Spirit. You know them all (Romans 12 v 7- 11) :
    -wisdom, knowledge, faith
    - gifts of healing, miraculous powers,
    - prohecy, ABILITY TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN SPIRITS
    - different kinds of tongues, interpretation of tongues

    And if you exercise your gift of 'distinguish between spirits', you get a powerful weapon against satan.

    Let us furthermore read Ephesians 6 v 12:
    "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood , but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms".

    Now you say, that you don't seek a demon under every rock.
    But in fact it is like this. Ephesians say, that it is the main , the only struggle.

    Look, what happened to me when I was six years of age.
    ..............
    We had been to the sands near the river. I had played all the day. My older sister said:
    "Now we go home, to eat  Mother is waiting for us".
    Then a sudden anger awoke in me, as I had never felt before in my very, very young life. I took my little sand scoop and stroke her so that her lip began to bleed. When I saw that, a panic arose in my mind as I had never felt before and I ran from there.
    Of course later on all these things were settled, but I am sure of one thing: at that moment a demon began his first attact on this young child.
    .........
    Later on, when I was- say - fourteen, I was a real bad boy. I have done very many bad things, just as David said in Psalm 25 v 7:
    "Remember- oh Lord- not the sins of my youth
    and my rebellious ways"
    Later on....as happens to most young people I learned to be a bit civilized, to adapt to society, but that is of course not the same as repentance and conversion. They came to me still later on.
    But that is another story.

    But.....see the devil everywhere, but not in a shy way....:
    "What shall happen to me",
    but in a conquering way:
    "This shall happen to him...in the name of Jesus".

    Greetings
    Ger

    01-03-2008 om 15:35 geschreven door Gerritse

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    Hello Els,

    You had questions about:

    Luke. 9:1-2. Luke. 9:38-43. Luke. 10:17&19.
    Luke. 11:20, & 24-26. Luke.13:11-13 &16.
    Luke. 13:32. Luke. 14:4. Luke. 22:3.

    I am beginning to answer. But it is not sure that I can answer all textes in one posting. Be however sure that in the course of time they all will be answered as far as the answer is not already given in a previous posting of mine.
    In Holland I now have a girl with 14 questions. And after you I go back from California (?) to Holland to give her an answer to her third question.

    Here we go:

    Luke 9 v 1 - 2.
    " When Jesus had called the Twelve together ,
    he gave them power and authority to drive out all demons and to cure diseases, and he sent them out to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick".

    This text is valid up to now. The authority to do these things lies open to us. When Jesus sent out his disciples, the Holy Spirit had not yet been poured out, but Jesus gave them a temporary ' power of that Spirit', in awaiting of that glorious day of Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit came to the believers to remain in those who remained filled with the Holy Spirit.

    But nowadays we have many converts, but we don't have so many ' deep converts', ( not with their soul, but with their spirit). And we have even less ' born again' people and the number of people that has been filled by the Holy Spirit and stick to it, without hesitating or sliding back , is even lower.

    But if we make profit out of all the good things Jesus left us , when he had said that delightfuil word: "Finished" (John 19 v 30), then it is now possible to do all the great things the disciples did then.

    But our God is a generous God. I know of a minister in a dutch church , who did not reckon with all these nice things, (but however: he was a good Christian), and a member of his church said:
    "Pastor...I am so sick. Come and annoint me with oil"
    as James 5 v 21 says:
    "Is anyone of you sick ? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and annoint him with oil in the name of the Lord".

    The pastor took with him two elders and they went very shy, but praising the Lord to the sick person and did, what James said. And the sick person was healed.

    But of course Els....people who have had such an experience, have to go on with these things. I do not know, whether this pastor did like this.

    Greetings
    Ger

    24-02-2008 om 18:10 geschreven door Gerritse

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    De vraag: "waar zijn wij naar de dood"

    Hello David,

    Let us go together to Luke 16.
    V 19 to 31 are speaking about 'the rich man and Lazarus'.

    Now you can have many preaches about this, but for now this is the only important thing:
    The rich man and also Lazarus immediately after death had an awareness.

    From the rich man this is reported wider than from Lazarus But the impression is given that Lazarus had too an awareness.
    - the rich man could speak
    - he could recognize Abraham, so he could see
    - he could have feelings; "I am in the flames and they torment me".
    - he could be thirsty, (24).

    So some bibles speak about hell, other bibles speak about 'realm of the dead'.

    But as you can read: Abraham and Lazarus were at the good side of the realm of the dead. That is the waiting-room for full heavenly joy . But even this waiting- room is an absolute lovely place to be.

    But the bad side of the realm of the dead, where the rich man was, is a place of provisionary custody. On the great day, whereabout Matthew 25 is speaking, Lazarus goes to the full joy, but the rich man comes from provisional custody into the place of permanent imprisonment. He had a bad time, he gets a bad time , not in the realm of the dead, but now in hell.

    Some people say:
    "Jesus said this in a simplifying way, connecting to the general thoughts in his time".
    I do not believe, that about such important questions Jesus should not say exact things. He always said what he meant.

    There is much more to say about these things , bur for the moment I leave it by this.

    Greetings
    Ger

    16-02-2008 om 14:14 geschreven door Gerritse

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    Originally Posted by Elshevia
    Thank you ger, for most informitive dialog, it has helped a lot. Now the next question is this nowhere in Scripture does it say that Jesus Christ delivered us
    from or dealt with s...n's powers at Calvary, He dealt with s...n's authority.
    the King James Version uses the greek words dunamis { power } and
    exousia { authority }. interchangeably which creates confusion, in its readers
    where other Bibles do not, in Colossians 1:13. "who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, where other Bibles say that Christ has delivered us from the authority of darkness, may I ask what you think of this wrong translation
    because these two words are not the same, it has been explained to me as....
    when you have the authority, you have the power,

    what is your idea on this ger. Elshevia.


    Hello Elshevia,

    Colossians 1 v 12 and 13 says in the New international version:
    "Let us give thanks to the Father who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in the kingdom of light.
    For he, ( the Father) has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves".

    Indeed these verses speak of the Father and not of the Son.
    But it remains a fact that the translation of K.J. was not quite correct and that modern translations have something more 'to the point'.

    But...is this catastrophal ?
    I make a sidestep now. From the 17 th century up to the 20 th century we had in Holland the 'Statenvertaling'.
    And there was standing in Genesis 22 v 1 that the Lord tempted Abraham, whilie in James 1 v 14 is standing:
    " ...God does not tempt anyone".

    But millions of Dutch Christians have found there Saviour in spite of this manco. And I am sure that millions of K.J.- readers have too.

    The word of the Lord is so strong, that little failures do no hurt it.
    Let us know at least this:
    The Lord God...to him all the honour...has saved us from the dominion of darkness.
    He gives us the status of conquerors of darkness an he gave us too the status of ' inheritance of the kingdom of light'.

    But we have to verify that in our lifes.

    I give you an example:
    When I had finished my schooling as a puiblic auditor, the head of the office sent me in 1957 into practise with these words:
    "Now mr Gerritse...you are now in full authority as a public auditor. You have all the licenses...but you don't have any experience 'in the field' except from what you experienced in your stage-period. You must make true in your behaviour and in your handling of all practice-matters that you are worth to exercise this magnificent function. But we all in the office want to help you in the first difficult years".

    Now the Lord has given us all these delightful things we have gained by the sacrifice of Lod Jesus and only by God's grace. It is now up to us to step into the works the Lord has prepared for us.

    Greetings
    Ger
     

    10-02-2008 om 14:17 geschreven door Gerritse

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    Hello Els,

    You had questions about:

    Luke. 9:1-2. Luke. 9:38-43. Luke. 10:17&19.
    Luke. 11:20, & 24-26. Luke.13:11-13 &16.
    Luke. 13:32. Luke. 14:4. Luke. 22:3.

    I am beginning to answer. But it is not sure that I can answer all textes in one posting. Be however sure that in the course of time they all will be answered as far as the answer is not already given in a previous posting of mine.
    In Holland I now have a girl with 14 questions. And after you I go back from California (?) to Holland to give her an answer to her third question.

    Here we go:

    Luke 9 v 1 - 2.
    " When Jesus had called the Twelve together ,
    he gave them power and authority to drive out all demons and to cure diseases, and he sent them out to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick".

    This text is valid up to now. The authority to do these things lies open to us. When Jesus sent out his disciples, the Holy Spirit had not yet been poured out, but Jesus gave them a temporary ' power of that Spirit', in awaiting of that glorious day of Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit came to the believers to remain in those who remained filled with the Holy Spirit.

    But nowadays we have many converts, but we don't have so many ' deep converts', ( not with their soul, but with their spirit). And we have even less ' born again' people and the number of people that has been filled by the Holy Spirit and stick to it, without hesitating or sliding back , is even lower.

    But if we make profit out of all the good things Jesus left us , when he had said that delightfuil word: "Finished" (John 19 v 30), then it is now possible to do all the great things the disciples did then.

    But our God is a generous God. I know of a minister in a dutch church , who did not reckon with all these nice things, (but however: he was a good Christian), and a member of his church said:
    "Pastor...I am so sick. Come and annoint me with oil"
    as James 5 v 21 says:
    "Is anyone of you sick ? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and annoint him with oil in the name of the Lord".

    The pastor took with him two elders and they went very shy, but praising the Lord to the sick person and did, what James said. And the sick person was healed.

    But of course Els....people who have had such an experience, have to go on with these things. I do not know, whether this pastor did like this.

    Greetings
    Ger

    02-02-2008 om 14:26 geschreven door Gerritse

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    Brother Ger, In the book of Job.1:21
    what dose it mean Naked came I and naked shall I go
    dose it mean no cloths or something else.

    My answer comes.
    G.


    Dear Shennagirl,

    I repeat what a famous dutch comment wrote about this vers (Job 1 v 21)
    "Naked I came from my mother's womb
    and naked I will depart.
    The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away;
    may the name of the Lord be praised"....
    .................
    Without any possessions Job came from the womb of his mother. Without any possessions he shall go to the earth , the womb of al creation.
    The same identification of ´motherwomb´and 'the earth as womb' you find in Psalm 139 v 13 - 15.
    Job acknowledges the absolute sovereignty of the Lord and hallows his name. He did not serve the Lord- as the big liar, the devil, suggested - for the profit, but for himself ! Deeply touched by the sovereignty of the Lord he is brought to worship. This is the nucleus of religion: worshipping of the sovereignty of God.
    ................
    So ....the being naked has nothing to do with Job's birth an dying. It has a far deeper meaning: satan is a liar as far he said bad things about Job's religion. Job does not always hold up this firm attitude, see 3 v 1.; 9 v 22 and other places.

    But in this all there is a lesson for us. Ephesians 5 v 20 says:
    "always giving thankings to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus".
    And Romans 8 v 28 adds:
    "And we know that in all things God works for the good those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose".

    I hope to have given some more answers than you asked.

    Greetings
    Ger

    26-01-2008 om 16:31 geschreven door Gerritse

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    Hello Elshevia,

    Well...serie 1 is on its way. All the questions are due to come here in the future.

    Now you asked:

    I have found that the Annointing of the Holy Spirit, is only Present when ministering like Praying for others, or Comforting
    Is this correct.

    No Elshevia, I don't think so. In the Old Testament it is often said, like in Numbers 11 v 25 about the seventy elders:
    "When the Spirit rested on them, they prophesied, but they did not do so again.
    You see as such , Numbers 24 v 2, 1 Chronicals 12 v 18, , 2 Chronicals 25 v 1 and other places.

    Before the conquest of our dear Lord Jesus the Holy Spirit was only temporarily with some people, just as you think he is only now with us when we are praying for others or comforting.

    But it is all more wonderful than you already think.

    John 7 v 39 says:
    " By these words ( see before) Jesus meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been gloriefied".

    Till the moment Jesus went to heaven to receive all the power in heaven and on earth on Ascension day the Old Testamentic situation remained.

    But at 'the great evening meal' Jesus said: ( John 14 v 16):
    " And I will ask the Father , and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever- the Spirit of truth".

    And that is so full of splendour Elshevia. The Holy Spirit is with us. For ever and ever and ever....if we do not make that Spirit sad.

    But if we are living with our Lord, the Holy Spirit gives us comfort in all situations.
    On the 26 th of Ocober my wife fell from the staircase and was very badly damaged. But in the first disastrous moment after that. I got a good advice in my heart:
    " Take notion of what is said in Psalm 50 v 23.There stands:
    "He who sacrifices thank offerings, honors God
    and he prepares the way
    so that I (God) may show him the salvation of God"..

    On that moment I was not ministring and not praying, only panicing.
    But the Holy Spirit was then and there present.

    Situation has a bit improved, but I think, my wife shall be in a nursing-home for the rest of her days, (she is 84), although she was only bruised and had nothing broken. But mentally she was already weakening and that process has got more momentum.

    Thank God Elsehevia for the Holy Spirit, who is always with you.

    By the way Els....I saw anywhere a question from you, whether it were possible that a person had the Holy Spirit in him and also a demon. Can you place this question in series 1.

    Greetings
    Ger

    25-01-2008 om 21:16 geschreven door Gerritse

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    Hello Child of God,

    You wrote important things, but - as far as I can see- you did not mention the name of Jesus, our Lord. The Bible says however these words:

    (Of course you know John 14 v 6, where Jesus says):
    "I m the way ....and the truth.....and the life.
    No one comes to the Father except through me".

    Now you say:
    - I want to be rich as Abraham
    - I want to be a prophet like Eliah
    - I want to be a blessed poet like David
    - I want to have the wisdom of Solomon.
    .....of course not that full measure, but something that goes into that direction.

    But the bible says in Romans 8 v 29:
    "For those God foreknew he also predestinated to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers".

    Now you can also have this wish:
    - I want to be a look alike to Jesus

    And that is possible by the mercy and the grace of God.
    And all who want to do as such have the heavy but delightful task
    - to repent their sins
    - to hallow Lord Jesus that he wants to take the sins away from those who accept him as their way, their truth and their life.
    - to be not only converted in their soul, but also in their spirit, by following Lord Jesus, also through difficult ways.
    - to be 'reborn' by the steady reading of the bible, ( 1 Peter 1 v 23)
    -to let themselves baptize by the Holy Spirit. (Acts 19 and other places)

    And that is the way to become like Jesus.

    And then there are for you:
    - wisdom , more thans Solomon
    - richness, when God allows this to happen to you
    - prophecy, more than Eliah.
    ....together with persecution, (Mark 10 v 30).

    Please go the way of Jesus Christ you all who hear this.

    Greetings
    Ger

    12-01-2008 om 14:11 geschreven door Gerritse

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    Originally Posted by Shennagirl
    Brother. Ger i was reading in Jeremiah in 46:6 talks about stumble.
    i don't understand .because in 1 peter 2:8 talks about stumble to
    are they the same or they different. please explain


    Hello Shennagirl.
    Jeremiah 46 v 6 and 1 Peter 2 v 8 are two totally different places.

    Jeremiah 46 v 6:
    "The swift cannot flee
    nor the strong escape.
    In the north by the river Euphrates
    they stumble and fall".

    In Jeremiah there is talk of it, that Egypt , a very big world power in those days, will have a deciding defeat at Karkemis , (river Euphrates); they try to attack Babel, but it all ends in a horrible disappointment.
    "Their strong men do not escape from being killed, and their swift men cannot flee. They all are stumbling and falling.

    Every bibletext has a learning for us.
    In my young days there was also a very great worldpower, very bad, The Nazikingdom in Germany. They planned to attact another wicked country ,. the Sovjet union, but at Stalingrad, the blossom of their sons was killed and that was the beginning of the end of Nazi- power.
    It will allways go like that, as it went with Egypt and later with Babel....and much later with Germany ...and just some years ago with the Sovjet union. All these powers, enemous to God, will fall.

    And now for 1 Peter 2 v 8:
    "A stone that causes men to stumble
    and a rock that makes them fall".
    They stumble because they disobey the message- which is also where they were destined for".

    Jesus preached an evangely of the unvisible world, the world , where believers, filled with the holy Spirit, conquer satan in his own stronghold.

    In old days there were the Pharisees, having a treasure in their hands, all the learnings of the old Testament. But when Jesus came, pointing to new ways, lying in the unvisisble world.... because they wanted to know only the visible world, they said "No". His heavenly words did not answer to their earthly expectations.
    He became for them a stone, that caused them to stumble
    and a rock that made them fall.

    If they had said "Yes", then should have happened , what is said in v 9:
    "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God".

    But because they did not want to accept the message of Jesus, now...for their own responsability...they are destined to fall further and further down.

    This lesson for us: when we only accept Jesus for our salvation and when we don't want to accept anything more from him:
    - being reborn
    - being filled with the Holy Spirit
    - being filled with the gifts and the fruit of God the Holy Spirit,
    then we are in great danger to fall back under the constant attacks of satan.

    So the great lesson is : not remain standing with conversion , but go ahead with rebirth and baptizm in the Holy Spirit.

    Greetings
    Ger

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    Re: Another Question

    Originally Posted by Shennagirl
    A lady ask this Question?

    Trust in me, That if you open your heart to God and Jesus,
    so shall the angels of love scan your heart and mind to see if
    you are ready to connect to God.

    Where can you find that in the bible?


    Dear Shennagirl,

    Again I have to disappoint you. I can find this nowhere.

    What I can find is this:
    (Colossians 2 v 18):
    "Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about which he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions".

    Those who speak of holy angels, scanning your heart, whether it is
    capable of connecting with God...those people are in fact- though they have mostly only good things in mind- worshippers of angels.

    The Lord God himself scans the hearts of all people perpetuously, knowing on every moment, what we are doing or thinking or planning to speak. He even knows from eternity everything about us, when nothing was realized in our lifes of all things to happen, (Psalm 139 v 16). He does not need in his allpowerfulness: angels.

    Angels indeed have tasks....given to them by the Lord. But they have not thís task.

    Tell this lady, that only one name has been given(Acts 4 v 12):
    "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved, (The name of Jesus Christ)
    Tell this lady also that angels are SERVANTS of the Lord, but that mankind, turning to Jesus , is destinated to be SONS of God.

    Greetings
    Ger

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    Re: Question

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shennagirl
    Brother Ger. My daughter heard that being cremated is
    a sin. If so where is that at in the bible.


    Hello Shennagirl,

    Nowhere in the bible is standing that 'being cremated' is a sin. But in old Israel it was always a habit to be buried. And always, when the apostles are talking about dying, they get their examples from 'a burial'., ( 1 Corinth 15 v 42- 45).

    Now you can say it is a good habit to bury dead people, but it is not good to say, that cremation is a sin.

    An example: lately there was this question in Holland; "is smoking a sin". I have answered then: "No" pointing to Galatians 3 v 3:
    "Are you so foolish ? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort".

    The Galatians were introducing all sorts of Jewish laws of not eating this or not drinking that or not doing this and not acting like that.

    And in the early pentecostal times in Holland, there came already 'a new time' law:
    "Thou shalt not have a television".
    and:
    "You shall not read the Telegraph, ( a journal)
    and of course:
    "You shall not smoke".
    But soon we stepped down from those things as 'rules'.

    Of coure it is bad to smoke, but we cannot win heaven by 'no smoking'.
    Of course it is no habit in Christian circles to be cremated, but you cannot go to heaven, because you have been buried instead of cremated.

    Galatians 5 v 1:
    "It is for freedom, that Christ has set us free . Stand firm then and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a joke of slavery, : ( neither by self - 'fabricated' rules, not finding their firm cementing in the bible).

    Greetings
    Ger

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    Originally Posted by suhasinijaiseelraj
    What is generational curses and how to recognise and how to overcome.


    My dear Suhasini,

    As always you will find the answer in the Bible.
    In Numbers 22 to 24 you read the story of Balaam , a very famous sorcerer . to whom was asked to speak out a curse over the Israelites.
    Now it is a long story. You should read it yourself, for it is tremendous.
    But God did not allow Balaam to speak out such a curse. In Numbers 23 v 23 Balaam calls out:
    "There IS no sorcery against Jacob
    no divination against Israel".

    And God does not allow sorcery and divination against Chirstians, following Jezus Christ.
    - For in those days God's plan was: the Israelite people. He wished to bring them in his promised land and no sorcerer could hinder the plan of God
    - But now God's plan has gone forward as far as Jesus and he wants to bring his people of these days to the promised land of now, the heavenly Jerusalem.

    And if you, Suhasini, love Lord Jesus and follow him, you are free from every sorcery against your family in the past.

    Glory for God.

    Greetings
    Ger

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    Biblestudy 24.

    Rebirth.

    Now we step off from John 3 and go discuss for some time terms like:
    "Born of God', an equivalent to 'being reborn'.

    At first we arrive at 1 John 3 v 9:

    "No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God".

    And I add 2 vers 1 to it:
    " My dear children , I write this to you that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense - Jesus Christ, the Righteous one".

    Of course it is like this, that someone , in who's ' inner person' by rebirth grows a new , heavenly nature, can fall in sin one day.

    Originally is it is like this, that in our 'inner person' a tiger is living.
    The apostle Paul says things worthy of consideration about this in Romans 7.
    But...when new life is beginning to grow in us , there comes besides this devouring and annihilating tiger......
    a complex of wrong thoughts , so close to our most deep ' ínner person', that it is nearly not te be separated from our spirit, although this should be and can be
    .....comes besides this tiger also a lamb of peace, joy and love.

    And now this is the most desirable course of things:
    - we feed that lamb exuberantly with thoughts of peace and hail , of friendliness, goodness and truth.
    - and to the tiger we give....NOTHING

    All my friends , who become aware by themselves that God is active to let them become reborn 'to al living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade- kept in heaven for you"....(1 Peter 1 v 3 and 4)
    ...I send a call to them to give nothing to the tiger and EVERYTHING to the lamb.
    And if yet you get a gloomy, jet-black , joyrobbing thought, do then like this:
    chase it away immediately. Don't give an opportunity to this thought , to fructify your mind.
    For you know:James 1 v 14 and 15 say:
    "Each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. (15) Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown gives birth to death".

    But when you have given any room to such a bad thought,...what happens...then the black birds of evil no longer are flying over your head...no...they have made their nests in your hair.

    Then turn to Jesus, our 'speaker' to the Father, confess that dark moment to him and....you can pursuit your way of rebirth.
    For a moment you have given to the tiger....
    lying down quite limply
    .....something to eat.
    And at the same moment those eyes began shooting sparks and he rose on his feet.
    - But when you, as soon as you only were able, confessed everything to Jesus and asked him for force never to be so thoughtless an imprudent again
    - ...and when you thanked God , that he had shown to you weak spots in your character, where you were so fit to be drained off and so easily to be seduced , so that you could handle that more efficiently ...
    what happened ?:then the tiger fell to the ground again..
    and now you can again go further with 'feeding the lamb'.

    And once comes the time, that you are so vigilant, that - so to say- you cannot longer sin, because the seed of God constantly remains in you.

    When is that time there . Well: that is not so soon: you know me as an 81 years-fellow, (now 85), who could be esteemed, to have conquered the devices of the devil meanwhile , being alert to them anyhow.

    Now...this morning there came an unpleasant, annoying thought in me....´the black birds were flying again`.

    And to you... my friends, I can tell this freely: just for a moment I gave room to this thought.

    But ... quiet down: at the same moment I went to Jesus with this , my defendor, my advocate...and I have said:
    "Oh Lord...forgivance...do you want to pass the message to God, that I am so sorry for that. Please ; give me strength to be still more alert.
    Thank you Lord".

    And...I could go on again with 'feeding and letting grow the lamb' ..

    Ger

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    Re: Question

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shennagirl
    Brother Ger. My daughter heard that being cremated is
    a sin. If so where is that at in the bible.


    Hello Shennagirl,

    Nowhere in the bible is standing that 'being cremated' is a sin. But in old Israel it was always a habit to be buried. And always, when the apostles are talking about dying, they get their examples from 'a burial'., ( 1 Corinth 15 v 42- 45).

    Now you can say it is a good habit to bury dead people, but it is not good to say, that cremation is a sin.

    An example: lately there was this question in Holland; "is smoking a sin". I have answered then: "No" pointing to Galatians 3 v 3:
    "Are you so foolish ? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort".

    The Galatians were introducing all sorts of Jewish laws of not eating this or not drinking that or not doing this and not acting like that.

    And in the early pentecostal times in Holland, there came already 'a new time' law:
    "Thou shalt not have a television".
    and:
    "You shall not read the Telegraph, ( a journal)
    and of course:
    "You shall not smoke".
    But soon we stepped down from those things as 'rules'.

    Of coure it is bad to smoke, but we cannot win heaven by 'no smoking'.
    Of course it is no habit in Christian circles to be cremated, but you cannot go to heaven, because you have been buried instead of cremated.

    Galatians 5 v 1:
    "It is for freedom, that Christ has set us free . Stand firm then and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a joke of slavery, : ( neither by self - 'fabricated' rules, not finding their firm cementing in the bible).

    Greetings
    Ger

    01-12-2007 om 16:39 geschreven door Gerritse

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    Hello Shennagirl,

    They always try to come back. Yiou read this even in the history of Jesus. When the devil had given him all these difficulties in the desert and Jesus conquered , there is saidMatthew 4 v 11.:
    "The devil left him".

    But...he came back, although Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit for the full 100%. You read that in Matthew16 v 23. When Peter became a temporary instrument of satan , saying:
    "Never Lord...this (the cross) shall never happen to you, ( 22), Jesus says:
    " Out of my eyes , satan".

    Although you try to be filled with the Holy Spirit of the Lord to the utmost, the devil , who is absolutely lawless, will come back from time to time to tease you.

    But you know wat James 4 v 7 says:
    "Resist the devil, ( of course in the name of Jesus)(Mark 16 v 17)...and he will flee from you".

    But during all your fights you will become stronger and stronger.

    Greetings
    Ger

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    Oh dear Suhasi,

    How did you write this verey clearly:
    i will get all unfaithful thoughts against God.some fear will strike me. "will i see victory in my life" what will my son do. will i be put in shame? How to search a proper match for my daughter? will God give me long life. i feel satan is always tempting me one way or the other. I feel to over come all these fears, i need the touch of the Holy Spirit. please do, pray for me that all these fears should go away from me. and i should feel Gods presence all the days of my life. give me some encouraging words thank you

    My reaction
    What can we do for you all of us with our hearts, burning for love for you.
    We understand this all so well, all of us: the fears, that can come up in the heart of a mother of children.

    At first: satan is playing his part. What you however can know, is this: James 4 v 7 says;
    "Resist the devil and he will flee from you".
    Of course you do this in the name of Jesus.

    But just herebefore Pastor David made me thinking of something else:
    Psalm 50 v 23 says;
    "He who sacrificies thankofferings honours God
    and he prepares the way
    so that I may show him the salvation of God".
    It is so very very good to praise the Lord God for his great deeds.

    And now Suhasini, I pray for you.
    ...............
    Oh Lord God...in the name of Jesus: Here is Ger and he has Suhasini with him.
    You know Lord: Suhasini is in so many concerns: about her children ...and about herself.
    But now I ask you; will you on this moment take care of Suhansini and comfort her and make her glad and joyfuil with you. Will you give her peace and love in her heart.
    Thank you Lord.

    Oh Lord, so many of our friends are now comforting with their prayers Suhansini.

    And here is Suhasini herself....
    (And now you can tell to the Lord everything I need not to know...)
    .............
    Suhasini....do we hear more from you.

    Greetings
    Ger

    17-11-2007 om 18:49 geschreven door Gerritse

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    Mein Lieber,

    Du schreibst:

    Hallo! Habe vor ungefähr 3Monaten den Weg zu Gott wieder gefunden. An Gott glaube ich schon immer aber ich dachte ich könnte ohne ihn leben (aus trotz heraus) ich weiss das war falsch und ich wünsche mir nichts mehr als das er mir verzeiht. Aber in diesen 3 Monaten habe ich schwere Rückschläge erleben müssen. Habe Depressionen, Körperlich geht es mir auch nicht gut geschweige denn Finanziell. Ich bete nicht dafür das es mir finanziell bessert geht ich bete nur für Gesundheit da ich ja nur dieses eine Leben habe aber alles beten hilft nichts. Sonst sind mir auch viele Missgeschicke passiert und auch komme ich immer wieder vom rechten weg ab so als würde eine böse Macht mich verleiten wollen. Langsam verlässt mich meine Kraft. Ich versuche mit aller kraft nicht wütend auf meinen Gott zuwerden aber doch kommt auch wenn ich es nicht will dieser Zorn immer wieder in mir hoch. Ich weiss ja das es menschen gibt denen es schlechter geht aber ich will doch einfach nur freude am leben haben. Meint ihr ich verlange zuviel? Will Gott mich testen?

    Meine Antwort:

    Dein Schreiben hat folgende Hauptmomente:
    - seit drei Monaten bin ich wieder bei Gott zurück
    - Ich wünschte wohl dasz Gott mir Verzeihung gibt für alles was ist passiert
    - aber in diesen drei Monaten habe ich so viel schlechtes erlebt: Depressionen. Körperlich geht es schlecht. Finanziël geht es schlecht. - Ich kann auch nicht auf dem rechten Weg bleiben mit Gott. Es ist als wie eine böse Macht mich verleiten wollte
    - Ich kann doch so böse werden auf Gott; das ist nicht gut, aber immer wieder kommt das in mir auf.
    - Will Gott mich testen.

    - Das ist eben das beste was ein Mensch tun kann: zurückkehren zu Gott. Der verlohrene Sohn aus Lukas 15 tat das und liest du bitte die Geschichte: der Vater war so liebenswürdig zu ihm und er bekam Verzeihung.
    - Und das ist eben dasselbe dasz du erwarten könnst: Verzeihung. Denn Jesus Christus, Gott und Mensch, hat sein Opfer am Kreuz gebracht und wenn er ausrief:
    "Es ist vollbracht", (Johannes 19 v 30),
    waren damit alle Sünden von allen Menschen, die sein Opfer für sichselbst annehmen wollten, ausgebuszt.
    - Aber es ist noch ein Dritter im Spiel: das ist eben der Teufel. So lange du auf seinem Weg, immer mehr herab, spazierte, sagte der Satan;
    " Alles klappt. Der ist mit starken Schritten auf dem Wege zur Finsternis, wo ich ihn haben will".
    Aber jetzt ist es Alarmfase in der Hölle:
    "Der Kerl versucht aufwärts zu klettern . Schnell; wir schicken ihm allerhand Unfug".
    - " Und auch etwas Direktes. Ja...gefunden!!! Jetzt musz er erst recht sündigen. Wir schicken ihm eine Verführung. Was ...eine...mehrere.. er musz böse werden auf Gott...ja, das wäre groszartig".
    - aber: eine Verleitung, eine Verführung durch Satan ist zugleich ein Test Gottes. Er will wissen , wie du dich hälst.

    Aber du mein lieber Junge....
    ich kann das sagen: ich bin 84...
    ......AUSHARREN !!!!

    Bete im Namen vom Herrn Jesus. Das hat Gott gerne. Er hat seinen Sohn geschicket und Gott will auch dasz wir den Namen seines Sohnes in Liebe nennen.
    Weiszt du was ...ich gehe mit um dich bei Gott ein zu leiten. Das tue ich wohl mehr.
    ........
    Lieber HerrGott. Hier ist Ger und er hat einen Deutschen bei sich , dessen Name er selst nicht kannt, leider. Aber Du lieber HerrGott weiszt alles. Er wollte zurück zu dir. Er ist auch zurückgekehrt. Aber alles ist so schwer....Hilf ihm bitte. Lege bitte sofort, wenn es möglich ist, einen Notverband, sodasz er einen Augenblick Veratmung hat. Und sorgst du auch weiter für ihn. Danke HerrGott.

    Hier ist der Mann selber....
    (Und nun kannst du alles sagen zu Gott was du nur wollst. Aber bitte : höflich bleiben...auch ehrbietig und so weiter. Du sprichst nicht zu 'nur so einem'...aber zu IHM)
    ......

    Ach ja...noch dies; Ueber den Teufel sagt Jakobus 4 v 7:
    "Wiederstehet dem Teufel, so flieht er von euch".

    Leistet Wiederstand in dem Name von Jesus. Denn ohne Jesus bist du nirgends.

    Grusz aus Holland
    Ger

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    Hello Abednego,

    You wrote:
    "because Adam introduced sin into the human race (Romans 5:12-14).

    I don't agree with this.Although you wrote many good things also in this topic, I want to oppose you in this respect.

    Romans 5 v 12 writes:
    "Therefore , just as the sin entered the world through one man , and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men , because all sinned- ".

    What did Adam do. He obeyed to the devil. in this way he became the servant of the devil . He gave his kingdom overe to the devil.
    Now the devil had become the master of the world. He came with all his bad' fellow-travellers', falsehood -demons, sin-demons, illness-demons and confiscated earth. In this way the cosmos came into the influence sphere of the evil one. This occupier now tried to change and transform this nice whole to a part of the kingdom of evil. Sin, lawwlessness from this moment on could infiltrate the cosmos. This well- ordened and functioning total was infiltrated with destructing forces and laws.
    The following of this occupation is that mankind is now surrounded with dark and evil powers. Mankind is individually seduced, infiltrated and brought to obediance to these forces from the dark world and in this way mankind is also submitted to death..

    Just as death has found its way to all who have sinnend, so Jesus has found the way to life for all who obey him.

    Man is not automatically from his birth a sinner, just as he is not an ill person automatically. He has no inherited sin, (original sin), he has no hereditary debt; he has no hereditary taint.
    Adam has only given over the world to satan and everybody is oppressed biy satan and seduced by satan to sin.
    Adam has nothing to do with the whole thing. His role was over, when he had obeyed to satan.
    The devil is the real enemy. He has brought the lie of original sin and so on , this falsehood into the world via Augustinus as the first one, who brought it to a definition. All the texts , used for it, are extremely weak. I call them: Genesis 6 v 5, Genesis 8 v 21, Job 14 v 4 and, (what they call the 'king's text): psalm 51 v 7.

    But satan needed to remain invisible for the natural Christian, after Paul had made him absolutely visible in Ephesians 6 v 12.
    But since the devil has made himself invisible through the errings of :
    - original sin
    - hereditary debt
    - hereditary taint,
    many people say:
    "It is all the guilt of Adam. I cannot help to be born from him. It is his guilt and -if you think it through- it is the fault of the Lord himself".

    Romans 3 v 23 says:
    "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God".
    Yes....but they have been seduced themselves for their own reponsability and cannot point back to Adam.

    By the way Abednego; did you already read my 'biblestudies' in the forum 'Biblestudies'. For a man like you it is very basic, but perhaps....

    Greetings
    Ger

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