THE HOAX ALIEN INVASION:

HOW WERNHER VON BRAUN REVEALED NASA'S PLAN TO WEAPONIZE SPACE 

By Dr. Carol Rosin

(Copyright 2016, Carol Rosin - All Rights Reserved)

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A personal account of How Wernher Von Braun revealed to Dr. Carol Rosin NASA's plan to justify weapons in space based on hoaxing an extraterrestrial threat

Dr. Carol Rosin was the first woman corporate manager of Fairchild Industries and was spokesperson for Wernher Von Braun in the last years of his life. She founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation in Outer Space in Washington DC and has testified before Congress on many occasions about space based weapons. Von Braun revealed to Dr. Rosin a plan to justify weapons in spaced based on hoaxing an extraterrestrial threat. She was also present at meetings in the ‘70s when the scenario for the Gulf War of the ‘90s was planned.  

Editor's note: -> In the transcript of their interview cited below, CR  represents commentary by  Dr. Carol Rosin  and SG designates questions from Dr. Steven Greer

Click the link below to hear Dr. Carol Rosin and Dr. Steven Greer discuss the false threat posed by

THE HOAX ALIEN INVASION

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CR: My name is Carol Rosin.  I am an educator who became the first woman corporate manager of an AerospaceCompany, Fairchild Industries. I am a Space and Missile Defense Consultant and have consulted to a number of companies, organizations, and government departments, even the intelligence community. I was a consultant to TRW working on the MX missile, so I was part of that strategy, which turned out to be a role model for how to sell space-based weapons to the public. The MX missile is yet another weapon system that we didn’t need.
I founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation in Outer Space, a Washington DC based think tank. I am an author and have testified before Congress and the President’s Commission on Space.

When I was a Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries from 1974 through 1977, I met the late Dr. Wernher Von Braun.   We first met in early 1974.  At that time, Von Braun was dying of cancer but he assured me that he would live a few more years to tell me about the game that was being played- that game being the effort to weaponize space, to control the Earth from space and space itself. Von Braun had a history of working with weapons systems.  He had escaped from Germany to come to this country and had become a Vice President of Fairchild Industries when I  met him. Von Braun’s purpose during the last years of his life, his dying years, was to educate the public and decision-makers about why space-based weapons are dumb, dangerous, destabilizing, too costly, unnecessary, unworkable, and an undesirable idea, and about the alternatives that are available.

 As practically a deathbed speech, he educated me about those concepts and who the players were in this game.  He gave me the responsibility, since he was dying, of continuing this effort to prevent the weaponization of outer space.  When Wernher Von Braun was dying of cancer, he asked me to be his spokesperson, to appear on occasions when he was too ill to speak.  And so, I did this.

What was most interesting to me was a repetitive sentence that he said to me over and over again during the approximately four years that I had the opportunity to work with him.  He said the strategy that was being used to educate the public and decision makers was to use scare tactics … That was how we identify an enemy.

The strategy that Wernher Von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy.  In fact, in 1974, they were the enemy, the identified enemy.  We were told that they Russians had “killer satellites.”  We were told that they were "coming to get us" and control us – that they were “Commies.”

Then, after the Russian threat passed (with the "fall of Communism"),  terrorists would be identified as the next threat, and that was soon to follow.  Throughout the media for the next decade, we heard a lot about terrorism.  Then we were going to identify third-world country “crazies.” We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based weapons.

The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. Asteroids- against asteroids we are going to build space-based weapons.  And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final scare. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. “And remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie.”

 I think I was too naïve at that time to know the seriousness of the nature of the spin that was being put on the system. And now, the pieces are starting to fall into place. We are building a space-based weapons system on a premise that is a lie, a spin. Wernher Von Braun was trying to hint that to me back in the early 70’s and right up until the moment when he died in 1977.

 What he told me was that there is an accelerated effort in place. He didn’t mention a timeline but he said that it was going to be speeding up faster than anybody could possibly imagine. That the effort to put weapons into space was not only based on a lie but would accelerate past the point of people even understanding it until it was already up there and too late.

 When Von Braun was dying in front of me, the very first day that I met him, he had tubes draining out of his side. He was tapping on the desk telling me, “You will come to Fairchild.” I was a schoolteacher. He said, “You will come to Fairchild and you will be responsible for keeping weapons out of space.” The way he said it with this intenseness in his eyes, and added that very first day, the first time I met him, that space-based weapons were a dangerous, destabilizing, too costly, unnecessary, untestable, unworkable idea.

The last card that was being held was the extraterrestrial enemy card. The intensity with which he said that, made me realize that he knew something that he was too afraid to mention.  He was too afraid to talk about it.  He would not tell me the details.  I am not sure that I would have absorbed them if he had told me the details or even believed him in 1974.  But there was no question that this man knew and had a need to know, I found out later.

There is no doubt in my mind that Wernher Von Braun knew about the extraterrestrial issue.  He explained to me the reasons why weapons were going to be put into space, the enemies against whom we were going to build these weapons, and that all of that was a lie.  He mentioned that extraterrestrials were going to be identified as the final enemy against whom we were going to build space-based weapon systems back in 1974.  The way he said it to me, there was no doubt in my mind that he knew something that he was too afraid to talk about.

Wernher Von Braun never spoke to me about any of the details that he knew related to extraterrestrials except that one day extraterrestrials were going to be identified as an enemy against whom we are going to build an enormous space-based weapons system. Wernher Von Braun actually told me that the spin was a lie – that the premise for space-based weaponry, the reasons that were going to be given, the enemies that we were going to identify – were all based on a lie.
 

I have been tracking the space-based weapons issue for about 26 years.  I have debated Generals and Congressional Representatives.  I have testified before the Congress and the Senate.  I have met with people in over 100 countries.  But I have not been able to identify who the people are who are who are making this space-based weapons system happen.  I see the news.  I see the administrative decisions being made, (regardless of who is President, or what party controls the Congress) and I know that they are all based on lies and greed.  But I have yet to be able to identify who the people are beind theplan to weaponize outer space.  And that is after tracking this issue for 26 years.

I know that there are big secrets being kept and I know that it is time the public and decision-makers pay attention to the people who are now going to be disclosing the truth.  Instead of weaponizing outer space, we need to make some definite changes and build a system in space that will benefit every single person, and all of the animals, and the environment of this planet.  The technology is there.  The solutions to Earth’s urgent and long-term potential problems are there.  I have a feeling that once we start studying this extraterrestrial issue, all of the questions  that I have had for 26 years are going to be answered.

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However, I have concluded that the plan to weaponize outer space  is based on a few people, who are intent making a lot of money and gaining global power.  In large part, it is also about ego. 

It is not about our essence and who we really are on this planet and loving each other and being at peace and cooperating.  The plan isn’t about using technology to solve problems and heal people on this planet.  It isn’t about that at all.  It is about a few people who really are playing an old, dangerous, costly game to pad their own pocketbooks and engaged in a global power struggle.  That is all it is.

I believe that this entire space-based weapons game is initiated right here in the United States of America.  What I hope for is that with this information that is being disclosed, the new administration will to do what is right.  That is to transform the war game into a space game so that we use the technologies that are available not just as spin-offs of war technology, but as direct technological applications to build a cooperative space system that will benefit the entire world and that will allow us to communicate with the extraterrestrial cultures that are obviously "out there."

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Who would benefit from these space-based weapons?  

They are the people who work in that arena, people in the military, in industries, in universities and labs, in the intelligence community.  This is not just in the United States, but it is worldwide.  This is a worldwide cooperative system.  Wars are cooperative.

Just as peace will be when it breaks out.  But right now there are a lot of people benefiting from destruction.  This is what our economy has been based on in this country for decades and it is now spreading around the world. Wars ae being conducted for profit not only political policies.  Untold millions of  people are suffering as a result.

It is not fair.  It never has been.  Prophts have foreold and people have screamed: “out of swords let us build plow shares, let’s have peace and hold hands around the world,” but it hasn’t worked because too many people are benefiting from the mass destruction ,which every war brings.  Not only are they benefiting financially, but from what my experience is, there are people who actually believe that Armageddon should happen precisely so that we have to have these wars.

So, the propaganda for the weeaponization of space is going from the plans an pocketbook of a military-industrial complex, to the religious right: some people actually believe that we have to have wars for these religious reasons (claiming that "It's in the Bible").

There are people who just love war. 

I have met warriors who just love to go to war.  Then there are the good people, the soldiers, who just take orders.  They have to feed their children and send them to college so they want to keep their jobs.  People in laboratories have told me that they don’t want to work on these technologies for war, but if they don’t they won’t get a paycheck.  Who is going to pay them?  But what I see is that there are not only dual uses for these technologies but there are many uses for the same technologies.

We can build space hospitals, schools, hotels, laboratories, farms, industries.  It may sound far-out but if we don’t do that, we are going to build battle stations and weapons pointed down on all of our heads and  back out into space.  Apparently we have been doing some of that already.  

We have a choice now that can be made.  We can all benefit – all of the people in the military industrial complex, in the intelligence community, in universities and labs, in the United States and all over the world – we can all benefit.  We can just transform that industry so easily with a change of course, a change oattitude, a decision based on our highest consciousness, our spirituality, and on the fact that we have no choice unless we all want to die.  And clearly, we don’t.  So we can all benefit financially, spiritually, socially, psychologically by dewaponizing outer space.  This is technologically and politically feasible.  It is possible to transform this game now and everyone on Earth will benefit.

In 1977 I was at a meeting in Fairchild Industries in a conference room called "The War Room."   In that room were a lot of charts on the walls with enemies, identified enemies.  There were other more obscure names, names like Saddam Hussein and Khadafi.  But we were talking then about terrorists, the potential terrorists.  No one had ever talked about this before, but this was the next stage after the Russians against whom we were going to build these space-based weapons.  I stood up in this meeting and I said:

 “Excuse me, why are we talking about these potential enemies against whom we are going to build space-based weapons ... if, in fact, we know that they are not the enemy at this time?”

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Well, they continued the conversation about how they were going to antagonize these enemies and that at some point, there was going to be a war in the Gulf, a Gulf War!  Now this was in 1977, 1977!

Andeven then, they were talking about creating a war in the Gulf Region when there was still 25 billion dollars in the space-based weapons program that had yet to be identified.   At least it wasn’t called the Strategic Defense Initiative,.   That was not until 1983.

This weapons system, then, had obviously been going on for some time and I didn’t know anything about it.  So I stood up in this meeting in 1977 and said:

 “I would like to know why we are talking about space-based weapons against these enemies.

I would like to know more about this. Would someone please tell me what this is about?”

Nobody answered. They just went on with this meeting as though I hadn’t said anything.   Suddenly I stood up in the room and said,:

“If nobody can tell me why you are planning a war in the Gulf when there is a certain amount of money in a budget so that you can create the next set of weapons systems that will be the beginning of the sell to the public about why we need space-based weapons, then consider this: my resignation.  And you will not hear from me again!”

And nobody said a word, because they were planning a war in the Gulf and it happened exactly as they planned it, and onschedule!

SG: Who was at this meeting? 

CR:  The room was filled with people in the revolving door game.  There were people that I had seen once in a military uniform and other times in a gray suit and an industry outfit.  These people play a revolving door game.  They work as consultants, industry people, and/or military and intelligence people.  They work in the industries and they revolve themselves through these doors and right into government positions.
 

I stood up in this meeting and asked if I was hearing correctly, namely, that when there was 25 billion dollars aleady expended in the space-based weapons budget, that there was going to be a war in the Gulf,  stimulated,  created,  so that they could then sell the next phase of weapons to the public and the decision-makers? 

This war was going to be created so that they could dump the old weapons and create a whole new set of weapons.  So I had to resign from that position.  I could no longer work in that industry.

One day in 1990, I was sitting in my living room looking at the money that had been spent on space-based weapons research and development programs and I realized that it had come to that number, about 25 billion dollars, and I said to my husband::

 “I am now going to stop everything.  I am now going to stop and sit and watch CNN television and I am going to wait for the war to happen.”

My husband said, “Well, you have finally gone over the edge. You have flipped out.” Friends said, “You have really gone too far this time. There is not going to be a war in the Gulf, nobody is talking about a war in the Gulf.”

I replied:  “There is going to be a war in the Gulf. I am going to sit here and wait for the war in the Gulf.”

And it happened right on schedule.

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As part of the "war game" in the Gulf, we in the public were told that the United States was successful in shooting down Russian Scud Missiles.  We were rationalizing new budgets based on that success.  In fact, we found out later, after the budgets were approved for the next phase of weapons, that it was a lie.

We did not have successful shoot-downs the way we were told. It was all a lie, just to get more money put in the budget to make more weapons.  I was one of the first people to go independently to Russia when I heard that they had “killer satellites.”

[See the testimony of Dr. Paul Czysz. SG]

When I went to Russia in the early 70’s, I found out that they didn’t have killer satellites, that it was all a lie.  In fact, the Russian leaders and people wanted peace.  They wanted to cooperate with the United States and with the people of the world.

Another time, I called Saddam Hussein when he was lighting his oil fields on fire.  My husband was in the kitchen while I was making this phone call.  I got a call back from his First Attaché with Saddam Hussein nearby and he asked:

 “Are you a reporter? Are you an agent?  Why do you want to know?”

I said, 

“No. I am just a citizen who helped to start the movement to prevent the weaponization of outer space and I have found that a lot of stories that I have been told about weapons systems and the enemies are not true. I wanted to find out what would satisfy Saddam Hussein so he would stop making these oil fields catch fire and stop antagonizing people.” 

The Fist Attache to Saddam Hussein replied: 

“Well, nobody has ever asked him that question, what he wants.” …

So when I hear that there is a possible "threat of extraterrestrials" – and I look at the history of thousands of years of possible ET visitations, and hear the disclosures of honest military-intelligence-industry people who have had experiences with UFO’s, with crashes and landings, with live and dead bodies of extraterrestrial beings –  I know it is a lie.

And if I am ever told that these are enemies against whom we have to build space-based weapons systems, based on my own personal experience of having worked in the military industrial complex on weapons systems and military strategy, I am going to know it is a lie. It is a lie.

Not only will I not believe it, but I am going to go out as loudly as I can and tell everyone to take a look.  They [the ET’s] have not taken us away yet.  We are still here after thousands of years of visits from "Them.."   If in fact they are still visiting us now, and we have not been harmed by hem, then we have to look at these visits as something that is not a hostile occurrence.

It would be my hope and my intention to do everything I could to work with people who are working to communicate with and cooperate with these extraterrestrial beings.  They are clearly not hostile.  We are here.  That is enough proof for me.

There is no limit to how people can choose to live on this planet.  We have a chance to do that and I think that the window is closing rapidly.  I don’t think that we have much time in which to make and implement that decision.  We are too close in too many ways to having some horrible disaster happen, or having some sort of "worst war" take place, whether it is from high technology or an exotic weapons system.

We need leadership, and it has to start with the United States President and that is who we all have to reach.  If you are international, if you are around the world, if you are in the United States of America, whether you are from any party, any belief system or religion -  the United States Commander in Chief, the President of the United States is the person that needs to be reached.  We need to say that we want an ultimate, comprehensive, verifiable ban on all space-based weapons

Dr. Carol Rosin

The Disclosure Project

July 7th, 2016

http://ufology.wikia.com/wiki/Disclosure_Project

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OUR STRANGE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SUBJECT OF UFOs

By Chris Holly 

(Copuyright 2016, Chris Holly - All Rights Reserved)

<Edited by Robert D. Morningstar>

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Over the last few months, I have been sent a steady stream of emails from people all over the United States telling me that they have had a UFO sighting. I have had reports of silver oval craft, groups of bright lights moving at incredible speeds and Orbs, mostly red Orbs.

People continue to see strange things in our sky daily all over this planet.  You would think by now we would know what they are seeing and from where these things originate.  The truth is we are exactly where we are now as where we were years ago when I first started to write and interview people about this subject.

The people who contact me when they have seen something that they realized was not like anything they had ever seen before all hold one thing in common.  Every single person is stunned and wants me to have an OMG reaction to the fact they saw something considered unknown or unexplained.

They also think that now that they saw something that it should be front page news.  The fact that people have been reporting UFO's, and having encounters with these unknowns from the start of time seems to be completely lost on people who have a sighting with their own eyes.  It is clear to me that our society is so backwards and lacking in basic knowledge about this subject that they are stunned when they see one with their very own eyes .

They learn very quickly what it is like to be on "the other side of the coin" and now they are the ones looking for acknowledgement that they did see something that was strange and unexplained,  They also know what it is like to look for protection and understanding instead of being laughed at and told that it was a plane and seeing friends turn away from them when they know they had just seen a damn UFO.  

Funny how we act towards one another with this subject.

When they contact me I tell them that they are now part of "the club" of millions worldwide who also have seen a UFO and that they now have the knowledge that they Do exist.

I often get back emails wanting me to be more stunned or shocked or shout in a hysteria that they actually did see a real object in the sky and do not understand why I do not "do something."

I explain that I have seen UFO's and I know that they exist and have spoken to many people who also have seen UFO's.  It is not earth-shattering news to me that yet another human looked up to find something they did not recognise looking back down at them.

I ask the people that have this type of reaction why they are so shocked that they finally saw something?

The answer always is that they really did not think they existed.

So, I have to wonder how so many can still be walking around this planet when the internet, TV and media, in general, is covered with videos, stories and photos of UFO's from all over the world?  The fact we still are so reluctant to understand this is part of our reality on Earth for me is actually frightening.

How is it we are so blinded and kept controlled by something so huge and seen by so many?

How is it that the people do not demand answers and are far happier to stay on a UFO gerbil-wheel of ignorance never wanting any real answers as they run, blindly competing in a "global rat race"?  We have  millions reporting seeing a strange object. Our reaction is to say wow, maybe look at the photo or video and then just  yawn and walk away.

Is it just me? Or are we a bit insane not want to know more?   Honestly, what the hell is wrong with us?

I often have people ask me where is the official place to report a UFO sighting.  They seem to think there is some government agency or organisation that is seriously dealing with this issue.  I think at times that society thinks that somewhere someone who knows what they are doing is taking care of all of this UFO stuff so they do not have to worry about it.  

Well gang, sorry to be the one to tell you...

 but when it comes to UFO's it is everyone for themselves as you are on your own with this issue.

Other nations have department's or government agencies that do collect and keep data on the UFO issue in their country but we here in America are NOT one of them.  If you call the police, you do not get anywhere.  If you call the military you get nothing.  We are set up to shut up and shut down people who try to discuss what they are seeing.  Using ridicule and laughter has worked for years to silence the public on this subject and obviously continues to work as we are still locked on this rat-wheel of stupidity with this ever growing issue of UFO's flying all over our country and nothing being done or explained or addressing the problem at all.

I had a man complain to me that he placed his sighting on MUFON but nothing happened.  I asked him what he wanted to happen?  He thought a big truck with white lab coat researchers would show up at his location to investigate his encounter.

I hated to be the one to tell him MUFON is a privately owned website, no hangers or buildings involved and the guy who owns it? ...Well who knows what he does with the reports?  It is not connected to any agency or government or military in any way so hs should stop waiting for any official reaction from them.

It is not the guy who owns MUFON or the TV shows making a fast buck off of our curiosity or the media or the thousands of internet pages that talk about this subject, IT IS US! ...

It is us, you and me, to blame for our ragged approach to this serious issue that needs to be addressed.

Why do we want to look at the subject as we do?  Why do we treat is as  a scary movie but not want to digest the fact that these things are real and flying over our heads often?  We may be in deep trouble and real danger yet we refuse to look up or ask why these objects are watching us.  I fear them and I know you should too.  Why are they here?  What do they want?  Who are they?  Are they ours? Good God I think we need to know.

Why is it we will see a UFO and still just go about our business as usual? Why do we just want to NOT KNOWN what the hell these things are and why do they fly around watching us?  I will not even address the fact that they take some of us. The question has to be what is wrong with all of us. We can sit and listen to an hour-long radio show on this subject, yawn and go to bed and give no thought at all to the fact that maybe we all need to know what is going on with these things. It is almost insane in my thinking that we are content to do nothing at all about asking questions of those who should have the answers for us. We should in mass be demanding our government and military tell us what these objects are and if we need to fear them.

I want to know.  I really am fearful and want to know, don't you?

For now, I will watch as we run round and round on a large UFO rat-wheel of blissful ignorance, refusing to get past the point of chatting about the issue and staying locked in the dangerous dark ages of  looking away, ignoring or denying  what and who it is that is flying our skies and watching us as we ignore it all in ignorance and a mindless bliss.  Maybe we are hypnotized or brainwashed or drugged to be so complacent about this serious subject, I just do not know ...

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