Rendlesham Dramatized

23-10-2014 om 20:29 geschreven door peter  

The Enemies Within … Divide & Rule!

“The Greatest Enemy of The UFO Community is The UFO Community” | MJ-12

By Frank Thayer
The UFO Chronicles
10-19-14

    The greatest enemy of the UFO community is…the UFO community. Such has been said by many, most lately by Scott Ramsey, of prominence in The Aztec Incident. The useful debate in “The UFO Chronicles” including contributions by Alejandro Rojas, Kevin Randle, Stanton Friedman, Barry Greenwood et al., perhaps misses a major point.
First of all, Friedman did the most thorough forensic examination and research into the photographs of the MJ-12 documents, just as he studied the Special Operations Manual SOM1-01. The disinformation question is not whether a particular document is genuine, but rather why these documents came into public view in the first place. Genuine documents are very valuable in promoting disinformation.
Because I teach propaganda, I emphasize that disinformation is a category of the propaganda mission with a specific purpose.
Disinformation is designed to create confusion and to reduce certainty. The original discovery of the MJ-12 documents as a roll of undeveloped black and white film, now connected to AFOSI agent Richard Doty, and received by William Moore and Jaime Shandera must be studied in light of the motives of the government. There was a need to create public uncertainty after Friedman first interviewed Jesse Marcel and the Roswell Incident overcame decades of government suppression to become a reality firmly lodged in modern public
awareness.
Good disinformation requires information credibility and source deniability. So why fabricate information that will easily be disproved over time? The ludicrous crash dummy story about Roswell is one of those, and Donald Menzel’s books on flying saucers, such as Flying Saucers—Myth—Truth—History, are another. The MJ-12 documents, however, and the special operations manual on the other hand “have legs,” in that they continue to persuade students of flying saucer reality and to spark debate.

If the MJ-12 documents or SOM1–1 (the latter proved by Friedman not to have been set in a computer type font) are fake, they required highly placed sources to create them and the deep pocket resources available only to the Intelligence community in order to make the documents credible. It is very expensive to set type and print a manual identical to the military manuals of the day printed by the U.S. Government’s printing office. Disinformation goals could be achieved by supplying carefully chosen original documents and photos of a real secret government publication. Without a pre-emptive strike, eventually MJ-12, by whatever name it was known, would have surfaced, so the back door release of selected documents could muddy the flying saucer water permanently.
Some would say that Doty was a whistleblower trying to alert the public to the reality of flying saucer reality, but experience leads us to believe that he was just doing his job for AFOSI. After all, Phillip Klass, Karl Pflock, Joe Nickell, James McGaha, Michael Shermer, and a coterie of others, have or had a military or intelligence background. Some of their publications are likely, but not proved, to be supported by government funds. Thus, the disinformation function is well staffed and well supported in the United States.

As for AFOSI, The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Hart Canyon (see the entire interrogation of AFOSI with Denver radio station advertising executive George Koehler) shows how seriously the Air Force was in tracking down the leaks of the Aztec flying disc recovery. Even today’s current tracking of Ebola contagion is not as thorough as the Air Force was in 1949–1950 in covering the tracks leading from Aztec. However the disinformation masterpiece was in discrediting Silas Newton and Leo GeBauer in an irrelevant business deal gone bad, and using a Denver courtroom to destroy the credibility of the first published story of a flying saucer recovery.
The MJ-12 documents were not released to the New York Times, as would befit a “Three Days of the Condor” type mission, starring Robert Redford. After all, that would never promulgate such documents, and the Associated Press by policy will not put UFO stories on the wire in most cases. Thus, the release of documents through an ambivalent source was far more successful. The real and the false are carefully blended to reduce certainty. This may be harmless, but in the Paul Bennewitz case, it proved devastating to a man’s life. In this latter case, Richard Doty may have been the agent who helped destroy Bennewitz’s well being, all through AFOSI disinformation.
The argument over MJ-12 will never be concluded, and a large segment of those who study flying saucers will continue to accept the scholarship of Stanton Friedman whose scholarship creates high confidence in the reality of the documents. Most of the naysayers fall back on ad hominem attacks that are the last resort of those who have lost the factual argument.

The character or credibility of Richard Doty, William Moore, Jaime Shandera is of minor importance. The essential reality of the documents, though they are only photographs of documents, must be the only focus of the research, and Stanton Friedman is the only researcher who thoroughly and minutely examined all of the data available in those black and white images. Both the MJ-12 papers and SOM1–1 remain today as credible evidence—and the arguments against them will be advanced as well, even on this even-handed forum. The UFO community, for its part, will continue to ravage its own members and eat its young.

* Frank Thayer is the co-author The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Hart Canyon

22-10-2014 om 11:50 geschreven door peter  

Lockheed announces major breakthrough in nuclear fusion             

Screenshot from YouTube user LockheedMartinVideos

  Lockheed Martin said in a statement released on Wednesday this  week that its secretive Skunk Works division — the unit  responsible for the U-2 spy plane and F-117 stealth jet — has  already applied for several patents related to the high-tech  reactor it has in the works, and expects it to be deployed during  the next decade if interested industry and government partners  sign on to help starting soon.

“Our compact fusion concept combines several alternative  magnetic confinement approaches, taking the best parts of each,  and offers a 90 percent size reduction over previous  concepts,” Tom McGuire, the compact fusion lead for the  Skunk Works’ Revolutionary Technology Programs, said in a  statement. “The smaller size will allow us to design, build  and test the CFR in less than a year.”

According to an article published by Reuters on Wednesday, McGuire told reporters  that Skunk Works has already successfully shown the company can  build a 100-megawatt reactor that measures seven by 10 feet, or  around 10 times smaller than what is currently available. Next,  the Lockheed division wants to have a prototype ready within five  years and then, within ten years, have the unit ready to be  deployed.

“A small reactor could power a US Navy warship,” Andrea  Shalal wrote for Reuters, “and eliminate the need for other  fuel sources that pose logistical challenges.”

The energy created through nuclear fusion can be up to four-times  more powerful that the energy released by fission, Lockheed  claims on its website, and a small-enough reactor like the  one being developed now by Skunk Works could provide enough power  for a town of 100,000 people, according to the contractor.

Screenshot from YouTube user LockheedMartinVideos

“To mimic the energy created by the sun and control it here  on earth, we’re creating a concept that can be contained using a  magnetic bottle. The bottle is able to handle extremely hot  temperatures, reaching hundreds of millions of degrees. By  containing this reaction, we can release it in a controlled  fashion to create energy we can use,” Lockheed explains on  its own site. “The heat energy created using this compact  fusion reactor will drive turbine generators by replacing the  combustion chambers with simple heat exchangers. In turn, the  turbines will then generate electricity or the propulsive power  for a number of applications.”

If successful, Lockheed’s latest effort “could change  civilization as we know it,” Gizmodo predicted on Wednesday, by giving the world a  portable power source unlike anything already available.

“It’s one of the reasons we think it is feasible for  development and future economics,” Skunk Work’s McGuire told     Aviation Week recently with regards to the reactor’s size.   “Ten times smaller is the key. But on the physics side, it  still has to work, and one of the reasons we think our physics  will work is that we’ve been able to make an inherently stable  configuration.”

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19-10-2014 om 20:21 geschreven door peter  

This Will Put A Smile On Stan's Face!

19-10-2014 om 20:20 geschreven door peter  

In That Case, I Would Prefer Aliens

Roswell was not aliens - it was the Nazis, according to a German
documentary

The Roswell Incident was reported on July 8 1947 in the town of the same name
in New Mexico.

Initially thought to be the crash landing of a flying saucer, military authorities later said it was a downed weather balloon, but conspiracy theorists down the years have always insisted that the military was covering up an alien
visitation. 

But now a documentary entitled 'UFOs in the Third Reich' claims the incident was linked to testing of the 'Bell,' a copper coloured aircraft three metres in diameter, the core of which was a futuristic propulsion unit using electric particles. 

The documentary screened on the N24 channel claims the craft was the forerunner of the Stealth fighter of today and was crafted by scores of V2 rocket experts who were spirited to America at the end of the war to give the USA the edge over the Soviet Union in rocket technology. 

One of them was allegedly a mass Nazi killer, S.S. general Hans Kammler was head of construction and defence projects´in the Third Reich and as such planned the forced labour factories at Auschwitz and the secret V-2 rocket plants inside Germany. 

The German documentary draws on a vast wealth of archival material. One of the experts is Igor Witkowski, a Polish former journalist and historian of military and aerospace technology. 

In his book, 'Prawda O Wunderwaffe' in 2000, he wrote extensively of the "bell-shaped craft" that was being created by the Nazis, and that Hitler wanted the best scientists and engineers at his disposal. 

German engineer Georg Klein claimed that such designs had been developed uring the Third Reich.

Klein, who went on to have a distinguished postwar career as an aeronautical engineer, said; "I don't consider myself a crackpot or eccentric or someone given to fantasies. 

"This is what I saw, with my own eyes; a Nazi UFO." 

British and American bomber crews, who ranged free in the skies over Germany towards the end of the war to deliver their lethal cargoes, also reported strange sightings over enemy territory when  debriefed back at their bases - now thought to have been test flights of the Bell. 

The programme explores the possibility that the Roswell Incident may have been the crash of another Nazi-era flying saucer known the Schriever-Habermohl model.

Rudolf Schriever was an engineer and test pilot, Otto Habermohl an engineer.

This project was centred in Prague between 1941 and 1943, but the plans for it was taken to America at war's end.

Initially a Luftwaffe project, it eventually fell under the auspices of armaments minister Albert Speer before being taken over once again in 1944 by Kammler.

17-10-2014 om 21:46 geschreven door peter  

The Trents … Finally Busted? Dream On!

Special Report: The Trent UFO Photos - the "Best" of All Time - Finally Busted?

Once again, farmer Paul Trent's famous UFO photos from McMinnville, Oregon are a hot topic in UFOlogy. Kevin Randle discussed the photos on his Blog A Different Perspective, and a torrent of comments from researchers followed. Not just frothy opinion, but highly detailed, meticulous comments about the camera angle and position, the weight and size of the hypothetical model, the load on the wires and a possible bend in them, etc. Ultimately this is important, but such matters are unlikely to give us a final answer. There is one thing about this case that everyone can probably agree with: as Randle says, "there are only two conclusions to be drawn about the pictures taken in McMinnville, Oregon.
They either show a craft from another world, or they are a hoax. I do not see a
third possibility."

1950: The Origin of the Photos

On May 11, 1950, farmer Paul Trent of McMinnville, Oregon snapped two photos of an object that he claimed was a flying saucer (the term "UFO" hadn't been invented yet).  There are inconsistencies in Mrs. Trent's accounts of where her husband was when the object was first spotted, and who went inside to get the camera. They did not immediately tell anyone about the photos, or rush them off to be developed. Instead, the film containing the invaluable flying saucer photos was left in the camera until Mother's Day, so that a few unexposed frames would not be wasted. More general information on the photos is on my web page http://debunker.com/trent.html .

Trent Photo #1 (scan of first-generation print)

After the photos had been developed, a reported who came to interview the Trents found the irreplaceable negatives lying "on the floor under the davenport, where the Trent children had been playing with them."

Trent Photo #2 (scan of first-generation print)

The story first appeared in the local newspaper the Telephone-Register. This led to a sensational national story in the June 26, 1950 issue of Life Magazine, then one the largest-circulation magazines in America.

Life Magazine article. Photos are cropped, removing wires.

William K. Hartmann and the Condon Report, 1968

This analysis attracted a lot of attention from UFOlogists, particularly because of Hartmann's conclusion that 

This is one of the few UFO reports in which all factors investigated, geometric, psychological, and physical appear to be consistent with the assertion that an extraordinary flying object, silvery, metallic, disk-shaped, tens of meters in diameter, and evidently artificial, flew within sight of two witnesses. It cannot be said that the evidence positively rules out a fabrication, although there are some physical factors such as the accuracy of certain photometric measures of the original negatives which argue against a fabrication. 

Hartmann acknowledges, however, that a fabrication is possible:

The object appears beneath a pair of wires, as is seen in Plates 23 and 24.
We may question, therefore, whether it could have been a model suspended from one of the wires. This possibility is strengthened by the observation that the object appears beneath roughly the same point in the two photos, in spite of their having been taken from two positions. This can be determined from irregularities, or "kinks," in the wires. The wires pass between the camera positions and the garage (left). We know from the change in orientation of the object that it moved, or was re-oriented by hand, between exposures. The possibility that it is a model hanging beneath a point on the wire suggests a further test: Is the change in distance of the object in Plates 23 and 24 equal to the change in distance from the wires? Measures of the disk indicate that it is about 8% further away in Plate 24. Measures of the irregularities in the wires indicate that they are further away from the camera in Plate 24. The amount of the latter increase from the wires (measured by the separation of rather ill-defined "kinks") is less certain than the distance increase from the disk, but it is measured to be about 10%. These tests do not rule out the possibility that the object was a small model suspended from the nearby wire by an unresolved thread.
Given the foregoing analysis, one must choose between an asymmetric model suspended from the overhead wire, and an extraordinary flying object

The sole factor suggesting that the object is distant is a measured anomalous brightness on the underside of the object in Photo 1, compared with the brightness of the shaded underside of the oil tank. The assumption is that, in the case of a model, the two shaded regions ought to have about the same brightness. Since the underside of the object is brighter than the underside of the tank, the assumption is that atmospheric scattering is the cause, and hence the object is at a significant distance from the camera

When I read this, I immediately thought of at least one other possible explanation for the anomalous brightness. When observing bright stars or planets in telescopes, we invariably see light scattered by the optical system from
bright objects into adjacent dark areas. The same thing happens in cameras. The technical term for this is veiling glare. The cheaper the optical system, the more light that tends to get scattered, and Trent's camera was a budget model, not professional quality. This is especially troublesome when fingerprints or other smudges accidentally get onto the lens, which certainly happens to me, and probably to most other people.

The significance of this is that while the dark underside of the object is immediately adjacent to the bright sky, the bottom of the tank is in a large, dark area of the photo. Hence one would expect more light from the surroundings to spill over into the bottom of the "UFO" than into the bottom of the oil tank.

I was an undergraduate at Northwestern at this time. I decided to test this hypothesis by photographing a concrete light pole in the daylight, with the top of the pole surrounded by bright sky, while its bottom was against a much darker background. I found a professor who had a densitometer in his lab, and would show me how to use it. I measured a series of photos and, while the top of the pole was only a little brighter than its bottom with a clean optical system, the addition of just a little petroleum jelly to degrade the optical system greatly increased the amount of veiling glare - spilled-over light - in the photos.
UFO researcher Bruce Maccabee has measured the original Trent negatives. He argues that, while veiling glare is indeed present, it isn't enough to account for the anomalous brightness. But even if that conclusion is correct, if any of Hartmann's assumptions are incorrect, the photometry results are meaningless. Among the possible violations of those assumptions:

• If the object is translucent, allowing light from the sky to pass through.
• the object has a mirror surface at the bottom, thus we are seeing a reflection of the bright ground, and not a shaded surface.
• If the underside of an object suspended several feet above the ground from the wires receives much more illumination than that of a tank near the ground, next  to a wall. (I would expect this to be true.)
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  Very sharply defined shadows in both photos - obviously cast by sun.

There are very distinct shadows on the garage in both photos, although the Trents claimed that the photos were taken around sunset. The problem is that the wall faces east, and the sun is in that position (about 90 degrees azimuth) about 8:20 AM PDT. If the photos were actually taken in the morning, then the Trents were lying about the circumstances of the incident. I found that, measuring the shadows, we can greatly restrict the size of the object casting the shadows. In fact, it is so small that it is almost certainly less than one degree

The angle abc above represents the radius of the illuminating body.
Assuming these measurements, it is the arctangent of .004, which is 0.229 degrees. This matches extremely well with the known average apparent radius of the sun, which is approximately .25 degrees. Even an undetected reduction of 20% in the size of the shadows in the photo, which is highly unlikely, allows the radius of the illuminating body to be no larger than 0.46 degrees (diameter 0.92).

The maximum possible diameter of the illuminating body is thus shown to be less than one degree, and is probably closer to one-half degree. The area of a one-degree circle is less than 0.025% (1/4,000) that of the quarter sky facing the garage wall.

A bright cloud in full sunlight is only about 10 times the surface brightness of the sky surrounding it.[3] Furthermore, during and after sunset, the sunlight in the landscape has traveled a very long path through the atmosphere, and has thus been very evenly scattered and diffused. According to the astronomer M. Minnaert, by about 10 minutes after sunset, the sky and landscape in the east is dull and of uniform hue. Even a half-hour before sunset, clouds in the east assume a dull red color.[4] To attribute the illumination in the photos to a bright cloud, or to a bright hole in the cloud cover, especially after sunset, would require a surface brightness of these remarkable clouds on the order of magnitude of thousands of times that of the surrounding sky, which is inconceivable. It is particularly implausible that such illumination could exist around the time of sunset.

Conclusion: Because of the small maximum angular size of the illumination body and its intense brilliance, there can be no doubt whatsoever that the shadows in the Trent photographs are cast directly by the sun.

Maccabee still maintains that the shadows on the garage were cast by a bright sunset cloud, even though the McMinnville weather station recorded perfectly clear skies at 7:00 PM on May 11, 1950 (the last observation of the day). His illustration of that argument is below. I have seen and photographed such clouds myself, I am not saying that they do not exist. However, look at the board Maccabee sets up to try to replicate the shadow of the eaves on the Trent garage. The board casts a decent shadow for a few inches below the point where it touches the wall, then as the board moves slightly farther from the wall, the shadow quickly fades to invisibility. At the point where the shadow disappears, at the top of the support pillar, the board is only 8 inches or so from its shadow. The end of the eaves on Trent's garage were approximately twenty inches from the wall (I measured this on a building of similar construction), yet the shadows are still sharp and distinct. This is because they were cast by the sun, small and very bright, not a large, diffuse cloud. If Maccabee can find a sunset cloud that can cast sharp shadows of such boards at twenty inches, then I might be prepared to accept his argument.

Maccabee's illustration of a bright cloud casting a shadow at sunset. But the shadow is too diffuse to allow it to be seen when the board casting it is some twenty inches from the wall.

Carpenter's truck mirror, and Trent #2

In 2004, researcher Joel Carpenter (1959-2014) created a website on thMcMinnville photos, making a very good case that the object was directly beneath the overhead wires, and close to the camera. He suggests that the object was a mirror from an old truck. I have restored Joel Carpenter's original McMinnville photos website (fixing only the links), and placed it on the Internet Archive.
One of Carpenter's findings is that Trent's camera was surprisingly close to the ground when the photos were taken. For some bizarre reason, Trent did not stand up but instead crouched down to photograph his UFO. Carpenter explains,

Instead of moving toward the object and shooting the photos from eye level in the unobstructed front yard, he shot the two photos up, from a very low level, from the back yard. For reasons explained above, it seems likely that he actually used the viewfinder on the body of the camera while kneeling. The overall geometry of the positions and the attributes of the camera suggest that he was attempting to frame a nearby object in such a way as to maximize the amount of sky around it and enhance its apparent altitude.

In other words, Trent walked away from where the UFO was supposed to be, and instead walked toward where the presumed model was hanging from the wires, and crouched down close to the ground to make his "UFO" appear distant.
 Since the camera moved a significant distance between Photo 1 and Photo 2, can the two Trent photos possibly be viewed as a stereo pair, to reveal the object's distance? In 2010 an anonymous researcher calling himself Blue Shift did so on Above Top Secret. He writes,

This is another cross-eyed stereo pair. That means you need to back away from the monitor a little bit, cross your eyes, and try to line elements up in each picture until you get them together and in focus. Try it first with the oil tank. That has been shrunk to size and aligned to make it a little easier.
Unfortunately, the two photos were taken some distance apart and with the photo on the right a few steps forward. So it'll take a little practice for you to line up some of the other elements, like the bush by the driveway, the telephone post, and maybe even the far away ridge...
Now just for the hell of it, line up the saucer. It won't be exact, because they're at a different tilt in each photo, but do what you can. Got it?
Now "look up" at the overhead wires. Curiously enough, they line up at the same relative distance as the saucer! That's interesting, don't you think? And if you look around the image, as well as the other available images of the yard -- the ones with the ladder -- the wires are not far away at all, but are actually closer to the camera than the oil tank. So if the UFO saucer lines up at that point, then there's a pretty good chance that the UFO is actually pretty close to the camera, also.
Well, certainly the UFO could have moved and somehow by pure chance managed to get a stereo separation of exactly the same distance and at the same relative angle as the overhead wires. That would be amazingly coincidental, wouldn't it?

The Trent photos as a stereo pair, by "Blue Shift" on ATS. The "UFO" is seen to be small, and relatively close.

In 2013 a group of French skeptics (IPACO) did an in-depth investigation of the McMinnville photos. They began with the usual description of the line of sight to the object in each photo, presumed suspension methods, etc. They concluded that the object is a small model.

More interesting is the second part of the report, completed two months after the first part: Evidence of a Suspension Thread (page 29).
They do not claim to detect the suspension thread directly, but instead statistically:

The basic idea is that if there are traces of a thread in a picture’s pixels, above an object hanging from this thread, and if this trace is « buried in noise » within the sky’s background (noise due to atmospheric diffusion and/or to the digitizing process), it should be possible to increase the signal-to-noise ratio thus uncovering the thread, by summing pixels along columns parallel to the thread.

They concluded, "For the TRNT1 picture, the presence of a negative peak (thread darker than the sky) was clearly observed which matched exactly to the supposed attachment point, with a significant difference of 2,38 sigma, for a tilt angle equal to -11°.... Application of the same method to the second picture TRNT2 provided comparable results, with a tilt angle of -10.29 ° and results of over 2.5 sigma."

 Bruce Maccabee and Brad Sparks have written responses to the French report. Maccabee objects that "Regarding the photogrammetric analysis,  I showed that the sighting lines did not cross under the wires and they did not refute this." This comment is a bit odd, because:

A) nearly everybody else who has investigated the question has come to the opposite conclusion, including William K. Hartmann and Claude Poher. The IPACO report says "The relative position may obviously be considered as nearly constant, which can only be explained, from a geometric point of view, if the object was effectively hanging from the wire OR if its movement between both shots was following precisely its sighting line."

B) The IPACO report based their measurements largely on a map provided by Maccabee.

Sparks objects that 

"These French debunkers have incomprehensibly asserted that the UFO and wires are "black bodies" to which they apply "radiometry" -- which is the science of measurement of heat.  They claim to derive an estimate of distance from this. They apparently have no idea what they are talking about.... They have confused photometry (light measurements) with radiometry (heat measurements from black body heat radiation, thermal emissions)." 

Technically, he is correct.  However Sparks does not consider the possibility that the problem is simply the result of a bad translation from the original French. If you read the paper, it is obvious that they are using the word "radiometric" to mean the brightness of the pixels, and not any supposed heat emitted by the object. Their measuring technique is valid, even though the English description of it isn't. If the "French Debunkers" had substituted the proper word  "densitometric"  for "radiometric", and "dark bodies" (meaning, opaque and not self-luminous) for "black bodies" (which has a very specific meaning in physics), the objection vanishes.

Now, another researcher has weighed in. Jay J. Walter of Phoenix, Arizona, the author of the suspense horror novel Blood Tree, did his own investigation. Working from high-resolution scans of first-generation prints that I sent him (scans now posted on the Internet Archives for anyone to research), he did his own photo enhancement using the venerable program ArtGem. He said that even using a 4.2ghz quad core 64bit processor with 8 gigs of system RAM, he was still getting "out of memory" errors. However, he persevered, and produced the following photos, appearing to detect portions of a suspension thread above the object in both photos. The purported string cannot be seen across its entire length, which is consistent with the French skeptics only being able to detect it statistically. It is significant that Walter and the French team were working with different scans.

Jay J. Walter's possible detection of a suspension string in the first Trent photo, its position illustrated by the drawn-in string in the bottom photo.

Walter's suggestion of a string in the second Trent photo. I had to convert these photos from TIFF to JPG format in order to post them, which loses some details.

Walter's apparent string seen in its proper orientation.

Another of Walter's purported discoveries is what he calls a "logo," an apparently flat area with two holes, where it appears a logo plate might be attached, or possibly even a handle. Is this real, or is it simply  "pareidolia" - seeing a pattern where none exists? Confirmation is needed.

Did something once attach here to the object in Trent photo #2?

Walter suggests that the object in question is an appliance motor shroud, approximately eight inches in diameter. "I think Trent walked to the garage one evening, tied a string to an appliance motor shroud via an old bolt, tossed theshroud over a wire and tied the other end of the string to an anchor near the ground, then took the two pictures.  Logical, practical, and so much less effort for him than other theories.  People just do what they do and Trent wasn't going to go to too much effort just to fool his banker buddy."

But wait - there's more! In the words of UFO researcher Martin Shough on UFO Updates, "I am hearing rumours that certain researchers, one of whom is no stranger to this List, are on the brink of publishing an analysis which they believe is proof of a hoax. I have it on the authority of a third party - a 'usually reliable source'
- that cunning digital enhancement has revealed the presence of a string or wire
support."

I have been in contact with this Mystery Researcher, who has not authorized me or anyone else to reveal his findings. He was planning to write a book exposing three major UFO photo cases as hoaxes, one of course being Trent. However, he says this plan has been abandoned, and he is  uncommunicative about the details of his work. I do not have proof of what he says about the string. However from the seriousness with which he has undertaken other investigations, I am inclined to believe that he has indeed found it.

Do these new findings finally debunk the Trent photos? They would, provided they can be independently confirmed by other researchers, using other high-resolution scans from first-generation prints, or else the original negatives. Until then, people will continue to argue about such matters as the gauge of the wires, and whether the model, if it were a model, would have to be five or six inches in diameter.

16-10-2014 om 14:34 geschreven door peter  

Mr. Trent, Move Over?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEVhJXQ6p1Q

16-10-2014 om 13:40 geschreven door peter  

Did This Former Intelligence Analyst Analyze The Intelligence Properly

Considerations of the Work of James Carrion

Considerations of the Work of James Carrion

By Jack Brewer The UFO Trail 10-3-14

     James Carrion is a writer, researcher and former intelligence analyst. No stranger to the UFO phenomenon, for a while he occupied the hot seat at the Mutual UFO Network. In his latest blog post, he identified what he termed "the smoking gun" of an intelligence operation theorized in his book, 'The Rosetta Deception', available for free on Carrion's blog site of the same name. He recently launched the Rosetta Deception Forum, a message board where you can post questions, discuss the book and share related research.

Possible "ghost rocket" depicted in a photo widely circulated and originally released by Swedish Army, according to Wikipedia

'The Rosetta Deception' contains a substantial amount of cited research focusing upon parts of 1946 and 1947. A series of well sourced events and circumstances are presented that suggest the "ghost rocket" reported sightings over Europe were the results of a U.S.-led deception operation. I suspect Carrion's interpretation is extremely likely to be accurate.
Carrion suggested in his book that motives for the operation included building global distrust for the Soviet Union while the world was speculating who was testing missiles over Europe. The primary objective, however, may have been to crack the Russian diplomatic code. This would have been accomplished in part through a method known as gardening, which involves creating circumstances of interest to enemy spies so that specific key words can be expected to be prevalent in coded messages, thus increasing opportunities to break the code. More complete understandings and context can be gained by taking other relevant circumstances of the era into account, many of which are specifically presented and sourced in the book.
In his latest blog post, Carrion outlined some particular points of his theory and added what he referred to as the smoking gun: A 1946 NYC-initiated strike of communications employees which significantly decreased available methods for Soviet intelligence agents located in the States to send messages safely to Moscow. Carrion reports that a resulting bottleneck of information flow created optimum conditions for American agents to gain access to encrypted Soviet messages. There are specific circumstances presented in 'The Rosetta Deception' in support of the likelihood, including the established and substantial presence at the time of the U.S. allied intelligence community in Stateside media and communications corporations, the very outfits which would have been relied upon.
Those who wish to debate Carrion's perspectives on the ghost rockets were invited to do so. Read more about his challenge, including definitions of standards of evidence and the requirement that an actual theory must be put forth, in his related blog post.

Objectives of Deception
Perhaps the biggest hurdle to accurately understanding intelligence operations, and particularly those that overlap with the UFO community, would be the failure to consider there is no all inclusive explanation. There is more than one reason the IC manipulated circumstances commonly perceived as related to UFOs. The purposes and objectives change from one specific circumstance to the next and cannot be discussed effectively in an overly generalized manner. Particular eras and specific cases should be considered independently of one another.
Consider, for example, a now declassified 1954 CIA memo in which agents were instructed to contemplate fabricating a sensational UFO story. The purpose of the potential fabrication was not in and of itself to deceive the public. The objective, according to the memo, was to divert public attention from Agency involvement in a Guatemalan coup.
If we neglect to seek such documents, we fail ourselves as researchers. We also fail as interested members of the public searching for accurate information.
If we perpetually subscribe to extreme beliefs, to either side of center, we increase the likelihood we are missing important data. That would be the case in arguing the IC was never involved in ufology, as well as limiting our perspectives to the incorrect assumptions that the only objectives must have involved either covering up an alien presence or the polar opposite of deceiving the public into believing aliens are among us. As Carrion suggests in his work and the 1954 CIA memo demonstrates, there are many potential objectives for UFO-related deception operations. Their intricacy would be par for the course, not the exception to the rule.
It appears to this writer that UFO-related deception operations conducted by the IC are reasonably a given.
Their extents, specific circumstances and objectives are yet to be conclusively determined - not their existence.
It is important to understand that we must demand verifiable information in order to draw conclusions. Such conclusions cannot be found in passionate opinions or baseless arguments that go in circles but never reach resolution as is all too often the case within ufology.

We Have Seen the Enemy...
It has been said that propaganda is sometimes aimed at the media with the ultimate intention of influencing politicians and global leaders. If taken from that perspective, confused and misinformed members of the public might be viewed as little more than relatively inconsequential byproducts of some deception operations, at least to the powers that be.
Another way of looking at that would be to consider the IC may not be as responsible for the runaway beliefs attached to UFOs as much as the UFO community sometimes took a nudge and did the rest largely on its own. Among our biggest challenges as a community in search of accurate answers continues to be ourselves, or at least a segment of our community.
There is a leading segment of the UFO community that chronically seeks to perpetuate mysteries rather than solve them. They seek no prosaic explanations, and scrupulously avert from them at virtually all costs to logic and rationality.
Some of the mysteries that find their ways into UFO circles may indeed one day prove to be groundbreaking and of great interest. The vast majority will most certainly not.
It was not the IC that single handedly turned the "ghost rockets" into a supposedly alien-related cultural phenomenon that became perpetuated for over half a century. Neither was a Pentagon think tank solely responsible for such a large number of questionable UFO stories evolving into never ending sagas of mythical proportion. We did that on our own.
I recommend checking out the work of James Carrion. I think it is worth the time and attention. He operates the blogs 'The Rosetta Deception' and 'Follow the Magic Thread'.
Join and participate at his recently launched message board at Rosetta Deception Forum.

12-10-2014 om 22:42 geschreven door peter  

Oct. 9, 1989 Vs Nov. 9, 1989

Why ‘Aliens’ ‘Landed’ in Russia 25 Years Ago

By Lily Rothman
time.com
10-9-14

They had small heads and wore silver overalls, apparently

     
Extra-terrestrial contact has already been made — at least if you believe a report that ran 25 years ago Thursday, on Oct. 9, 1989, in the Soviet press agency TASS.

On Sept. 27 of that year, according to the official report, tall three-eyed aliens with small heads showed up in the city of Voronezh, arriving in a shiny ball (or, alternatively, a “banana-shaped” object) and bringing with them their robot. ”Scientists have confirmed that an unidentified flying object recently landed in a park in the Russian city of Voronezh,” an Associated Press translation of the report read. ”They have also identified the landing site and found traces of aliens who made a short promenade about the park.” They left behind them “two pieces of unidentified rocks,” made of a substance that “cannot be found on Earth.”

When pressed, TASS stood by the report. In fact, the agency could add more details a few days later, the New York Times reported. For example, aliens were wearing “silvery overalls and bronze boots.” . . .

12-10-2014 om 22:15 geschreven door peter  

My Final Call, Stan!

MJ-12 Debate Continues: Kevin Randle's Final Word on The Matter?

MJ-12 Debate Continues: Kevin Randle's Final Word on The Matter

By Kevin Randle The UFO Chronicles © 10-9-14

     When you resort to suggesting that the lack of provenance is a silly argument—that is the point where I bow out. This is going nowhere and I have a book to complete rather than say the same things over and over to you so that you can ignore them.
I will respond to one item. I have a letter from Dr. Winfred Buskirk dated August 30, 1991, in his own handwriting that says, "Anderson was in my Anthropology class the 1st semester, then, according to his transcript, took a French class the second semester." I had avoided using this until now because those who supplied the information were still employed by the Albuquerque school system and could have gotten into trouble. Now that situation has worked itself out.
I also have a letter dated August 8, 1991, again written in Buskirk's own hand that says, "Now - at Albuquerque High he was enrolled for a semester of Anthropology. This was a course I taught in the fall, so he must have taken it in 1957 - 1958 and, I presumed passed it with credit (I failed no one if I could help it.)... You will probably want to call Mrs. [left the name out to protect the innocent], .[second name left out] and [third name left out] for a verification." This I did, but after Anderson called the school to demand that they release no information about him, I kept this to myself.
Here is the interesting part of that letter by Buskirk, "They [the names that I had removed] had been contacted by Friedman, and both had referred him to her... But Friedman has not contacted her." The question is, did you ever contact her and what did you learn? Did she tell you the same things that I learned?
Once again, I have the letters in hand and there is even my handwritten note of a telephone number for one of these people whom I did call. He said that he was looking at the transcript as we talked. By the way, Anderson did, in a letter to me, confirm some of the information that camefrom those sources. He's dead in the water on this, and I have the proof.
I have noticed that he misinterpreted my comments about Peter Tytell and attempt to switch the conversation from the EBD and the Truman Memo to that nutty NSA document you carry around. You don't seem to get that I talked to Tytell, so I might answer that as well... or I might not. I do have a book due here and this is now taking too much time. I don't think there are many out there who are buying these arguments anyway.

12-10-2014 om 22:09 geschreven door peter  

Dr. Menzel, The Work Of CI Spooks, Stan?

MJ-12: The Hoax That Quickly Became a Disinformation Operation

By Robert Hastings The UFO Chronicles 10-10-14

      Stan Friedman and I once had a brief face-to-face debate about the Majestic-12 (MJ-12) documents, as I was helping him move his luggage from his hotel room to the lobby, to await the taxi to the airport, following the III World UFO Forum in Curitiba, Brazil in June 2009, at which we both spoke.
One of those documents, the key Eisenhower Briefing Document (EBD), purports to be a Top Secret report to president-elect Dwight Eisenhower, prepared by Rear Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, in which the Roswell Incident—the recovery of an alien spaceship and the bodies of its crew—is outlined for the soon-to-be new chief executive.
Along with this earth-shattering news, Eisenhower is told of the existence of a Top Secret group, the Majestic 12 or Majik 12, a “Research and Development Intelligence” operation whose 12 members oversee basically everything related to the case.

After I pressed him on the point, Friedman actually agreed with me that the obscure elements in the EBD—which he publicly claims prove its authenticity—could have been researched by counterintelligence personnel, military or civilian, and planted in the “document” to lend it an air of legitimacy. This includes the mention of UFO skeptic Dr. Donald Menzel as a member of MJ-12—whose covert relationship with the National Security Agency was only exposed after the EBD was made public—as well as other items.
In other words, if the MJ-12 affair is a disinformation scheme involving a counterintelligence group, and not just a simple hoax—as I maintain—the arcane aspects of the Eisenhower Briefing Document (and Cutler-Twining Memo and Truman-Forrestal Memo) that Friedman holds up as evidence of their authenticity, might instead be explained by the spooks who created them having done their homework. If their task was to muddy the waters, so to speak, certainly they would have been allowed access to various relevant historical materials that would have assisted them in the creation of passable forgeries.
As one of the first investigators of MJ-12, who helped expose its bogus origins—together with Barry Greenwood, Kevin Randle, and the late Bob Todd—I have detailed information about the early manifestations of the caper. My widely-circulated March 1, 1989 paper, “The MJ-12 Affair: Facts, Questions, Comments” is available at http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/hastings.htm.

While Greenwood and Randle believe that a simple hoax, designed to make money, was perpetrated by researcher Bill Moore and U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) Special Agent Richard Doty, I contend the available evidence strongly suggests that the MJ-12 fraud, while originating as a hoax, was quickly co-opted by AFOSI and perhaps other intelligence groups, as a means to disinform/misdirect ufologists and the public-at-large, regarding the nature and extent of the U.S. government’s involvement with the UFO phenomenon.
I am fully aware that Stan Friedman will never agree with this scenario—and may claim that our conversation in Brazil never happened—so I am merely going to itemize the following for the benefit of others who have an open mind about the subject:

● According to files donated to MUFON by the late Bob Pratt, the name “MAJIK 12” was assigned to a proposed work of fiction about UFOs, the official cover-up of them, and one intelligence agent’s quest to expose the facts. The novel was to be co-authored by journalist Pratt and researcher Bill Moore, probably with the assistance of Richard Doty.
All of this was discussed some three years before the first supposedly real Majestic-12/Majik-12 “document” surfaced. MAJIK 12 was the book’s working title; IAC, for Identified Alien Craft, was an alternate title. However, at some point, The Aquarius Project was unilaterally selected as the title by Moore. The
terms “Project Aquarius” and “IAC” later appeared in the allegedly real Majestic-12 documents, as did “EBE” for Extraterrestrial Biological Entity, another term associated with the proposed fictional work.
● Two years before the MJ-12 documents were released to the public, Moore suggested to researcher Brad Sparks that fake documents relating to the Roswell UFO recovery be created and disseminated, the idea being that military veterans with a knowledge of the event would be enticed to come forward with their stories, thereby breaking the case wide open. Sparks states that he strongly recommended that Moore not do it.
● The undeveloped roll of film containing images of the EDB and Truman-Forrestal (TF) documents was mailed to Moore’s associate Jaime Shandera from Albuquerque, New Mexico, coincidentally the location of Kirtland AFB—where OSI agent Richard Doty worked.
● In April 2009, the late Gabe Valdez, a retired New Mexico State Policeman famous for his cattle mutilation work, told me that fellow state trooper Richard Doty had confessed to him that he had forged “lots” of UFO-related documents while working as an OSI agent. Doty became a New Mexico State Policeman after retiring from the Air Force in 1988.
Doty’s fraudulent “Craig Weitzel letter”, “1977 Ellsworth AFB incident document”, and “Aquarius Telex”—the first document to surface that actually mentioned MJ-12—were exposed in the 1980s. Three fakes hardly constitute “lots” of forgeries. What other “documents” did Doty foist on ufology and the rest of the world?
Gabe Valdez asked me not to tape our 2009 conversation or to quote him publicly; now that he is dead, I feel I can do so.
● In May 2009, I posted various MJ-12-related statements on a blog, at one point referring to Doty as “a government disinformation agent who forged documents.” On May 24, 2009, Doty emailed me, angrily saying, “A simple fact, Mr. Hastings, everything I did during my intelligence days were [sic] sanctioned.”

This is Classic Doty, notorious for his frequent grammatical and spelling errors. I note here that the MJ-12 documents have a number of such errors sprinkled throughout them.
Not that Doty is necessarily a candidate for the forgery of the EBD in particular; its somewhat complex content required a level of sophistication arguably beyond Doty’s rather limited abilities. Instead, higher-level intelligence types, and Bill Moore himself, must be considered to be high on the list of persons who might be
responsible for its creation.
Remember, Moore once told researcher Lee Graham that he was an intelligence operative, and even showed Graham an ID badge that Graham said was “identical” in appearance to the badges shown to him by two members of the Defense Investigative Service (DIS) who had once visited him.

When I published Graham’s comments in 1989, Moore quickly said that he had only been joking with the hapless researcher and that the badge was only a laminated MUFON field investigator’s card. However, Graham remains adamant that the badge he was shown was a genuine government ID card.
But if Doty is not responsible for the creation of the EBD, the ridiculous mumbo jumbo found in the so-called “MJ-5 Memo” is right up his alley. On October 14, 1988, Doty appeared anonymously (back-lit and voice-altered) as “Falcon” on the absurd TV farce UFO Cover-up Live!, together with USAF intelligence officer Capt. Robert M. Collins, who also appeared anonymously as “Condor”. The pair claimed to be high-level intelligence insiders who knew about multiple UFO crashes, live aliens being held captive by the U.S. government, and other such fare.
Apparently the aliens liked strawberry ice cream and Tibetan music, according to Doty and Collins.
In November 1987, the same Capt. Robert Collins showed Linda Moulton Howe a ring-binder full of MJ-12 documents at his home in Albuquerque. According to Howe, Collins had been “frantically” trying to reach her so that he could present those supposedly important files. The EBD was prominently featured, as was the MJ-5 Memo, together with another memorandum that mentioned the live aliens held at Los Alamos—among other items.

Howe swallowed it all, of course, soon sharing information about the bogus evidence with ufologists and the public, following-up on her earlier “revelations” about alleged secret U.S./alien treaties, underground alien bases, and other such disclosures—all of which had been provided to her by OSI Special Agent Doty.
In 2009, Collins denied showing documents to Howe (and John Lear) at his house in 1987. Fortunately, I recorded my conversation with Howe less than a year after the event and she described the goings-on in detail. A summary of all of this, as well as my telephone transcript, may be read in my Operation Bird Droppings article.
According to his self-written bio at Amazon.com, appearing with a summary of his book, Exempt From Disclosure, Robert Collins is a “former Air Force Intelligence Officer, Capt, O-3 (Chief Analyst/Scientist in theoretical Physics holding a Top Secret/SCI clearance) at the Foreign Technology Division (FTD)...Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, with an extensive background in Aircraft Avionics Systems, Ground Communications, and Engineering Physics (graduate school—Electro-Optics, Plasma, and Nuclear Physics) totaling over 22 years…”
Gee, not a single word from Collins about his appearing on a national television program masquerading as a “high-level intelligence source, code-named Condor” who also “frantically” disseminated disinformation relating to MJ-12.
Summarizing here, in the early days of the ruse, two of the leading proponents for the legitimacy of the now-discredited MJ-12 material were a counterintelligence OSI agent, who later confessed to forging UFO-related documents, and a positive intelligence officer who willingly posed as something he was not—someone having intimate knowledge about various crashed UFOs and captured aliens being held by the U.S. government.
Try as he may, Stan Friedman cannot credibly distance the supposedly “good” MJ-12 documents—EBD, CT, TF—from the “bad” ones that were circulating in the 1980s.
They were all lumped together and presented as equally important and legitimate by two Air Force intelligence operatives—clearly acting as disinformation agents—who were aggressively foisting them on well-meaning but gullible people such as Linda Howe.
Once the shenanigans perpetrated by the Kirtland AFB Cabal were effectively exposed, by Greenwood, Todd and myself, Bill Moore saw the writing on the wall and finally acknowledged much of what we had written.

During his infamous “confession” speech, at the MUFON conference in Las Vegas, on July 1, 1989, Moore said, “Disinformation is a strange and bizarre game. Those who play it are completely aware that an operation’s success is dependent upon dropping information upon a target, or ‘mark,’ in such a way that the person will accept it as truth and will repeat, and even defend it to others as if it were true. Once this has been accomplished, the work of the counterintelligence specialists is complete. They can simply withdraw in the confidence that the dirty work of spreading their poisonous seeds will be done by others.”
Linda Howe and others—including Stanton Friedman—certainly did their part in the game, helping to create a mythology that endures today.
As I wrote earlier, the available evidence strongly suggests that while the MJ-12 Affair began as a legitimate money-making project, involving the writing of a novel, it eventually became a hoax, involving forged documents—with money again being the objective, resulting from various related schemes—before finally morphing into a disinformation ploy orchestrated by intelligence and counterintelligence groups within the U.S. Air Force.

Today
I am distressed that the MJ-12 debate (actually, debacle) continues to have ramifications 30 years later, perpetually polluting the legitimate UFO research database.
For example, MJ-12 was prominently featured during the Citizens Hearing on Disclosure, held in Washington D.C. in May 2013. Linda Moulton Howe breathlessly characterized the MJ-12-related SOM 1-01 Special Operations Manual—which directs military personnel how to recover crashed UFOs and dead aliens—as having “stood the test of time”. Hardly!
Military document expert and longtime UFO researcher Jan Aldrich has discovered over 50 factual errors and/or discrepancies in military protocol in the so-called “manual”.
Another high-profile personage in ufology, self-described “historian” Richard Dolan, has repeatedly vouched for the legitimacy of the MJ-12 materials in various UFO “documentaries” on television.

And Robert and Ryan Wood, at their Majestic Documents website, still regularly churn out pro-MJ-12 “evidence” and commentary. As I pointedly said to them, from the podium at the 2012 Society for Scientific Exploration conference, if one is going to have any hope of deciphering the U.S. government’s covert response to UFOs, one must adhere to the fundamental principles underlying academic scholarship or, at least, traditional investigative journalism, to figure out what is real, as opposed to what is not.
In other words, relying only on authenticated documents and vetted witness testimony when evaluating historical developments. In response, the Woods just stared at their shoes and said nothing.
Given that the MJ-12 proponents routinely ignore this valid advice, and spout off incessantly about their supposedly-insightful “findings”, it’s no wonder that the bullshit typed-up by OSI Agent Doty, con artist Bill Moore and, later on, hoaxer Tim Cooper, has only gained ground on the Internet over the years, at least among the less-discriminating members of the public.
At least Cooper has now completely disavowed the MJ-12 2.0 “documents” that he was actively disseminating a few years ago. Oh, you didn’t know about that? See my “Operation Bird Droppings” article addendum.
Regardless, questions about Cooper’s possible role in creating those forged files remain unanswered.
Jeez, what a colossal waste of everyone’s time!
There are legitimate areas in ufology that go begging for attention by qualified researchers. It’s nothing short of pathetic that so much effort has been spent on the MJ-12 Affair, especially when the basic facts about its dubious origins and early machinations have been well researched and publicized for years.
To the reader, I say this: Please do your homework. The facts are indeed available, if one is willing to take the time to discover them. Start by asking yourself whether any “evidence” offered by the MJ-12 proponents would meet the standards of academic or journalistic investigative research. Can even a single MJ-12 “document” be proved to be genuine, by any accepted definition of that word?
Bizarrely, Stan Friedman has recently asserted that provenance—the chronology of the ownership, custody or location of a historical object—is not even an issue when it comes to analyzing the MJ-12 documents! Would any academician or investigative journalist dare make such a claim about a disputed document that has mysteriously appeared out of nowhere, if he/she hoped to have any credibility at all after doing so? Of course not!
The great many documents underlying my own UFO-Nukes Connection research can be verifiably traced to a given government department or agency.
Can the MJ-12 proponents honestly make that claim? No, they cannot. All they can offer are their opinions about how it might be possible for these supposed documents to be real.
Whoopee...
For the record, I personally believe that the Roswell Incident—the secret recovery of an alien spaceship and the bodies of its crew—did in fact take place. I recommend a review of the on-the-record statements by the late U.S. Air Force Brigadier General Arthur E. Exon, as presented at http://roswellproof.homestead.com/exon.html.
While having only an indirect knowledge of the incident and its aftermath, acquired from some of the military participants who were involved in the operation, Exon’s revelations are far more insightful and valuable than anything emerging from the MJ-12 fiasco.
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Bird Droppings and MJ-12, Stanton Friedman Responds . . .

MJ-12 Debate Continues: Alejandro Rojas Rebukes Stanton Friedman

MJ-12 Debate Continues: Stanton Friedman Counters

MJ-12 Debate Continues: Kevin Randle Queries Stanton Friedman

MJ-12: Stanton Friedman Fires Back; The Disputation with Kevin Randle Continues ...

MJ-12: Kevin Randle Rails Against Stanton Friedman's Rebuttal

MJ-12: Alejandro Rojas Accepts Stanton Friedman's Debate Challenge

MJ-12: Renowned Ufologist, Stanton Friedman Issues Debate Challenge To Naysayers

More False Claims About Majestic 12

The Myth of MJ-12: Appendix A –Pt 1

The Myth of MJ-12: Appendix A –Pt 2

The Myth of MJ-12: Appendix A –Pt 3

"Appendix A: The Myth of MJ-12" An Annotated Commentary By Barry Greenwood

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12-10-2014 om 22:09 geschreven door peter  

You've Been Duped, Stan!

MJ-12 Debate Continues: Alejandro Rojas Rebukes Stanton Friedman

MJ-12 Debate Continues: Alejandro Rojas Rebukes Stanton Friedman

By Alejandro Rojas The UFO Chronicles © 10-9-14

     This is a strange message, because my research is about the origins of the documents. Stanton often expresses his frustration when people he debates have not reviewed his material. However, this message indicates that Stanton has not reviewed my research, which is on the origins of the MJ-12 documents, and how they were released to a group of individual who were involved with an admitted disinformation scandal.
Incidentally, some of these people were also Stanton's research partners. However, instead of discussing this sordid affair to help absolve himself of any association with the scandal, Stanton continues to ignore the scandal even took place. It appears Stanton is trying to do the same thing here. I argue that any full investigation of the case must include the circumstances surrounding how the public came to know of these documents. Something Stanton has not provided.
Stanton has admitted to me that Doty, an agent with the USAF Office of Special Investigations, was the first person to mention the term MJ-12 in a document Doty says was part of a disinformation campaign. He has also admitted that Doty is not to be trusted and has proven to be deceitful. Stanton has also admitted that his research partner at the time, William Moore, is not to be trusted. This was proven to be the case when Moore admitted to being part of Doty's disinformation campaign.
Much of Stanton's research on the MJ-12 documents was prior to anyone knowing Moore was working with Doty. I believe that Stanton is a man of high integrity, and, along with the rest of the UFO community, was a victim of this disinformation scandal.
It must be hard to know one has been chasing a wild goose for years, only to find that their own research partner was involved with setting the goose loose. I can understand that, but ignoring the events do not allow for a sufficient analysis of the situation.
I will be more than happy to discuss with Stanton some of the details of his relationship with the people involved with the disinformation scandal. Details he avoids sharing in public, but are pertinent to the field of Ufology. I would also like to discuss why he feels the fact that the documents were released amidst this scandal have no bearing on their validity. I also would like to discuss with him my view that no matter how long his list is, it does not prove that the documents were not disinformation, officially sanctioned by the government or otherwise.

12-10-2014 om 21:48 geschreven door peter  

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09-10-2014 om 18:19 geschreven door peter  

Time To Throw In The Towel, Kevin!

MJ-12 Debate Continues: Stanton Friedman Counters

Kevin:
Thank you for once again demonstrating your illogicality and inaccuracy with regard to the MJ-12 documents. Your basic rule is: Absence of evidence is evidence for absence which is illogical. Let me be specific, though as you know from previous items I have written, I provided a long list of examples. You bring up Willingham again for reasons unknown. I have never said that his story proves anything. Of course I don't have any evidence that there was a saucer crash at el Indio Guerrero. on 06 December, 1950.The document says ..."By the time the search team arrived, what remained of the object had been almost totally incinerated. Such material as could be recovered was transported to the A.E.C. facility at Sandia, New Mexico, for study." That was a nuclear weapons lab. As you are well aware, I do not have access to classified information about the results of that study or anything else. That surely doesn't mean that there was no study done. I suspect that the search team was there because "the long trajectory" was observed on radar and would also have provided classified information.
You have described the response of Peter Tytel, a noted forensic Documents examiner to whom I had sent a copy of the EBD "it was just perfect because the whole thing of the twelve pages or however many pages it was. Most of the pages were blank pages with just five words written on them like TOP SECRET or Appendix A or something like that." The fact is the EBD was 7 pages (plus the TF memo) and only one (page 7) had just Appendix A on it.
Strangely you did not even include that page in your book. You quoted Tytel's off hand remark that the typewriter was of much later vintage. A full professional evaluation by James Black paid for by Dr. Robert M Wood stated the typeface was from an Underwood Standard from May 1940.
Several authorities claimed that TOP SECRET Restricted was not used during Ike's terms.
The GAO found examples and said so. Blind Luck? The date of the TF was the only day in a many month period when Truman, Bush and Forrestal met. Blind Luck? The hoaxer threw a dart at a dart board and found the one time when Cutler was out of the country so didn't sign the CT or put a /s/. Of course he blindly knew that Menzel would pass muster though nobody else did. He knew to put a period after the date on TF knowing that Bush always did. He knew that James Lay had been instructed to keep things moving out of Cutler's in Basket. George Elsey, who worked for Truman all the time he was President , said Lay would have written the memo for Cutler (after I pointed out Lay's instructions from Cutler and found that there was nothing wrong with the 3 documents, etc., ad nauseum).
Also chose an unusual carbon paper but knew it would eventually pass muster.
Another example is that you claimed truly that nowhere did I find any mention of MJ-12 in Donald Menzel's papers ... no Marginal notes, no oblique references etc. Menzel according to his own words to Jack Kennedy had been connected to the NSA and its Navy predecessor for decades. I have seen no reference to this connection predating my discovery in his papers at the Harvard Archives. You expect him to have left classified notes and information lying around? There were no classified papers there. His secretary assured me that he was very careful about security. Remember that the 156 pages of NSA UFO documents finally released were classified TOP SECRET UMBRA and one could only read 1 line per page.
You are now claiming that Dr. Buskirk claimed that Gerald Anderson was in his anthro class.at Albuquerque High School. I have trouble believing that he did so claim. You will recall that I visited the high school and twice talked by phone to the student whom you claimed recalled Gerald from that class. He denied it even after I sent him and another student a copy of a picture of Gerald from the High School yearbook. Your evidence please—not your wishful thinking.
I have as you know, noted many pieces of data not known to be true until after we received the CT,TF, and EBD . How did a hoaxer know those?? Time travel such as invoked by the USAF when claiming Crash Test Dummies not dropped until 6 years after Roswell accounted for the Body stories?
Why do you falsely claim that I said the TF signature "exactly matches" one on a Truman Bush letter? You made that up. I said "matches" not "exactly matches."
That is as bad as Klass saying Letter 9 times for the TF MEMO and his falsely claiming Pica Type wasn't used at the NSC. He paid me $1000.00 for proving him wrong about that after I provided 14 examples.
Why don't you mention the findings of world class linguistics expert Dr. Roger Wescott who reviewed 27 examples of Hillenkoetter writings including the EBD and said "in my opinion there is no compelling reason to regard any of these communications as fraudulent or to believe that any of them were written by any one other than Hillenkoetter himself. This statement holds for the controversial presidential briefing memorandum of November 18, 1952 ...." You talk about drafts being destroyed. Onionskin copies were all over the place. None of the three is a draft. "Preliminary briefing" is not a draft.
The person who filmed the TOP SECRET MAJIC briefing and distributed the film to a person without a clearance or need to know was guilty of a crime. A hoaxer would have finally said gotcha. Provenance is a silly argument. Want a written confession, too? You have a solid military background, but still falsely claimed that calling Hillenkoetter Admiral (instead of rear admiral) meant the EBD was phony. You asked for another item by him with a signature. There is no signature by RHH on EBD In fact it was the standard practice to use generic ranks as you would have known if you had gone to the Ike Library. It is a lot closer to you than it is to me.
Time to throw in the towel. The 3 items are genuine.

See Also:
MJ-12 Debate Continues: Kevin Randle Queries Stanton Friedman
MJ-12: Stanton Friedman Fires Back; The Disputation with Kevin Randle Continues ...
MJ-12: evin Randle Rails Against Stanton Friedman's Rebuttal
MJ-12: Alejandro Rojas Accepts Stanton Friedman's Debate Challenge
MJ-12: Renowned Ufologist, Stanton Friedman Issues Debate Challenge To Naysayers
More False Claims About Majestic 12
The Myth of MJ-12: Appendix A –Pt 1
The Myth of MJ-12: Appendix A –Pt 2
The Myth of MJ-12: Appendix A –Pt 3

08-10-2014 om 22:31 geschreven door peter  

Let Me Try Again, Stan!

MJ-12 Debate Continues:
Kevin Randle Queries Stanton Friedman

By Kevin Randle The UFO Chronicles © 10-7-14

    
Seriously? You trot out that old chestnut? Do you make the same comments about writing fiction to Bruce Maccabee, Nick Pope or Whitley Streiber or is it just me? Are you following the propagandist rule that if you say something loud enough and long enough someone will believe you?

I notice you continue to dodge the questions. You have no explanation for the lack of provenance. This is a major flaw.

Since you bring up Kaufmann, how about Gerald Anderson? He forged a document and admitted that. You know the diary he submitted about the 1947 event was written in ink that didn’t exist prior to 1973. And he took the class from Winfred Buskirk. How do I know? Because I was able to access the records before Anderson demanded that they be closed and those records proved that Anderson took Buskirk’s Anthropology course. I can say that now because those who helped me have retired. It was the same information that Buskirk received when he called his friends at Albuquerque High School and told me to check it out myself.

The December 6, 1950, alert has no relevance. It was based on a possible intrusion of American airspace by an unknown aircraft. It lasted about an hour and had nothing to do with a crash of anything in Mexico. Zechel changed the date of Willingham’s case for that very reason… and you have no idea what sources of information I have been able to tap.

But this second crash mentioned is the fatal flaw because it never happened outside of the mind of Robert Willingham. He invented the tale and this is the only source of information about it, unless, of course, you have something to prove it did happen.

And you haven’t bothered with the altered Truman signature on the memo. You forgot to mention that you approached Peter Tytell, a questioned document expert who told you to wash your hands of MJ-12 because the clues he found screamed hoax. And you know that he has not produced a written report because no one has paid his fee but anyone who talks to him learns the same things about that investigation.

You still haven’t commented on Bill Moore’s idea of creating a Roswell document. Nor have you commented on the original plan being laid out in his book Majik-12. Nor that Moore said the EBD contained disinformation which is, of course, a nice way to say that it filled with lies. And you haven’t mentioned Moore’s “confession” in Las Vegas that has badly damaged his credibility, which in turn, damages MJ-12. (And don’t ask how because it was Moore who provided the EBD to the world.)

No matter how many times you say it, you still haven’t been able to explain some of the major discrepancies. You are reduced to asking how the forger could have known some obscure facts when the answer is simple… blind luck. He also missed on some very big items.

Oh, by the way, drafts of highly classified documents are normally destroyed once the final is completed. They also destroy the notes, the typewriter ribbons and even the blank pages left on note pads to ensure that the information isn’t compromised. Until you can find some actual evidence of authenticity for the MJ-12 documents, these conversations go almost nowhere.

08-10-2014 om 22:15 geschreven door peter  

From Proceedings of the 1976 CUFOS Conference

Santa Catalina Channel "Cloud Cigars"

by Ann Druffel

ABSTRACT:  Since 1962 there  have been recurring sightings of so-called cloud-cigars over the Catalina  Channel in Southern California.  These  hovering, seemingly energized clouds are reported both day and night, and  are accompanied by sightings of smaller, disc-like objects miles inland, while  the larger objects remain high above the Pacific Ocean between the mainland and  Catalina Island,  twenty (20) miles off  the coast.  Available facts indicate the  possibility that the  small craft  "materialize" within the developing cloud.  Ways are suggested in which CUFOS can obtain cooperation  from civilian and military authorities in monitoring these phenomena.
                                                    
SANTA CATALINA ISLAND'S CLOUD CIGARS:   The transitory nature of UFOs dismays  researchers. The objects appear unexpectedly to startled witnesses and in most cases  are gone before any permanent record of their passage can be obtained.

In  rare instances, however, the appearance of UFOs can be predicted by reason of  their repeated occurrence in some particular region. One of these regions is  over the Pacific Ocean between the coast of Southern California and the off-shore  islands, notably Santa Catalina Island, which lies about twenty miles (20) west  of the mainland.

We  are concerned specifically here with a rectangular area between thirty-three (33)  degrees and thirty-four (34) degrees latitude north and between  one-hundred-nineteen (119) degrees and one-hundred-seventeen point five  (11.7.5) degrees longitude west. Other "channel" and  "basin" areas, named for the cities and islands associated with them,  are involved here in question, is more meaningful. In most cases, the objects were  viewed between the mainland and the large off-shore island of Santa Catalina  Ref. 1) (Also see  Figure A)

Figure A

The  complex sea floor off southern California is becoming one of the best-known  submarine areas in the world.  Data on the  topography, sediments, rock formations and seismic character have been  published in several sources (Ref. 2).

There  has typically always been poor navigational control in this area, but it is  difficult to correlate this fact with the numerous magnetic anomalies existing  here
(Ref. 3).  

The  following material has never been published or, indeed, never collected  together before in cogent form.  It is  necessarily incomplete and speculative. When viewed as a whole however, it  might afford the UFO research field an opportunity to study long-lived UFO  phenomena with scientific instrumentation. Hopefully, readers of this paper  will offer ideas on how such instrumentation can be obtained, set up and  maintained.

THE 1962 MYSTERY: The first hint that the skies above the Santa  Catalina Channel held more than seagulls occurred, to the best of our  knowledge, in August 1962. Two women witnesses, of which this author (Druffel)  was one, had brought their six small           children, ages eight to one year,  for a leisurely day at the Long Beach, California seashore. About 2:00 p.m. one  of the women (author) noticed a small, white rectangular cloud, which looked exactly  like a newly-formed section of vapor trail. It seemed to be neatly sliced off  at each end and transplanted in the blue, smogless sky. Its apparent diameter  was about four millimeters at arm's length, and its width was one-half its          length.

It  was positioned at about forty (40) degrees elevation, approximately one hundred  ninety-five (195) degrees azimuth (magnetic) high in the sky. It seemed about  midway between the shore and the island of Santa Catalina, which was clearly visible  to the south and southwest. 

There  was no evidence of high-flying jets and no other vapor trails or clouds in that  quadrant of sky. After about fifteen minutes, the witness became aware that it  was not a normal vapor trail. It was too short, too isolated and did not change  shape or size in the slightest. Neither did it move in any direction [in spite  of a brisk wind blowing on the seashore.) The witness called her friend, Mrs.  James (Aileen) Cummings's, attention to it, and the two women continued to  observe the small white rectangle. For about thirty more minutes it remained  motionless, unchanged in size and shape.

Then  something began to occur within the tiny cloud. Its white vapor began to  "churn", presenting an impression of internal activity. It enlarged  two or three times; the time was now about 3:15 p.m.

During  the next half hour, it slowly changed into an oval, twenty to thirty (20-30) times  its original size. It still hovered at forty (40) degrees elevation at the  original azimuth, but now its apparent diameter had blossomed to four (4) centimeters  in length and about two (2) centimeters in width at arm's length. It was  solid-appearing, unlike a normal cloud. Its vaporous, oval shape was definite,  and at no time did the edges          dissipate beyond the perimeter.  There was a constant churning motion all over the visible surface, somewhat  like water boiling in slow motion. The object seemed angled at approximately twenty-five  to thirty (25-30) degrees, its longest diameter being
          positioned to the witnesses'  right (See  Figure B).

Figure B

The mysterious sight kept the witnesses'  attention, mainly because it seemed that "something" was inside its  vaporous exterior. At times it seemed as though the object were about to  "open up" to reveal whatever might be lurking within.  About forty-five (45) minutes after the  formation of the oval, the witnesses saw flashes of light coming from the  object. The flashes were bright white and momentary. They extended about a  diameter's length out from the surface. They gave the impression of strong  reflections from the bright sun off some metal surface within the cloud, or of  electric discharges. At          no time was any sound heard. The  flashes were periodic, separated by minutes, with no regular rhythm.

During  the time the flashes were observed, numerous military jet trails were seen in  the south, evidently over and beyond Catalina Island. These trails were  observed from four to ten (4-10) degrees above the island, which rises about  three (3) degrees above the horizon from that viewing position. None of the jet  trails appeared within thirty (30) degrees of the churning, flashing cloud.  However, these trails indicated the presence of a number of highly active, military  jets.

After  watching the flashes in the cloud for about fifteen minutes, the witnesses  approached a nearby lifeguard, hoping he could lend them binoculars so they  could get a closer view of the activity within the cloud. He denied having  binoculars, and when the witnesses tried to explain to him about the strange cloud  he showed no interest.

About  5:00 p.m. the witnesses collected their small children, preparatory to making  the long thirty-five mile drive back to their Pasadena homes. They left  reluctantly, pausing several times during the quarter-mile walk to their cars  to stare at          the object. It still hung motionless  high in the sky. They discussed reporting the incident to the Long Beach Press-Telegram but  rationalized that the object must have been seen and reported by many others.  It had been in view more than three hours.   However, there was never any media coverage of the event, to the  witnesses' surprise (Ref. 4).

As  awed as the witnesses felt over the cloud's strange exterior, the activity  within it was so inexplicable that both felt inadequate to even verbalize it.  Consequently, it went unreported until this date. They remained totally unaware  of the possible significance of the occurrence until years later.  More on the possible significance of this  sighting, after further correlative material had surfaced, has been presented  below.

THE 1968 "CLOUD-CIGAR":   The second instance of a "vaporous cloud" over the Catalina  Channel occurred on July 9th, 1968.  By  this time, the Los Angeles NICAP Subcommittee [to which the author belonged] had  established SKYNET, a tracking-and-filter center designed to collect and investigate  public UFO reports.

On  that summer evening, the phones rang off their hooks at the Project  Coordinator's [Druffel's] home in Pasadena.   Thirty air miles south in Long Beach and surrounding communities,  citizens began reporting a large, glowing mass positioned high over the  Catalina Channel. Accompanying the silent, hovering cloud were several glowing,  smaller globes which maneuvered in the same area of sky (See  Figure C).

Figure C

The  first call came from a group of five teenagers gathered at the home of Kevin  Allgreen, three miles north of the shore line. At 9:35 p.m. they had noticed a  gray-white, diamond-shaped haze under the full moon in the south-southeast. At 10:05  it began moving fifty-five (55) degrees in a horizontal line toward the west.  By 10:15 it had returned, intact, to its original position near the moon.  Maneuvering near the large
          object were five smaller cloud-like  objects, oval-shaped with clearcut edges. Two of these were grayish and three  "kind of white." 

The  boys, aged thirteen to eighteen years, viewed the objects through binoculars  and determined that all of the unknown masses looked "solid". They  kept their shape and precise edges through subsequent maneuvers. Although the  edges of the larger object were "fuzzy," it did not seem to be a  normal cloud because it moved too fast during its brief journey westward and  back again, traveling fifty-five (55) degrees in three (3) minutes. It was many  times the size of the smaller balls, an estimated five to six (5-6) times the  diameter of the full moon.  The end  facing west was long and narrow, and the part facing east was shaped "like  a diamond."

The  boys were convinced that they were viewing something highly unusual. They  estimated the main mass was about ten (10) miles high. About 11:00 p.m. the  large object turned reddish-orange in color and began traveling upward at an  approximate          angle of thirty (30) degrees. By  11:30 it "just faded away," taking five (5) minutes to dissipate out  of sight.

Following  hard on the teenagers' first call, the family of Mr. I. Castano of Compton also  called SKYNET. From their home seven miles north of the Long Beach witnesses,  his family had viewed a group of four oval, cloud-like objects the size of          pinheads at arm's length, or about  one-eighth the size of the full moon. First seen at 9:30 p.m. and disappearing  at 10:00 p.m. they were glowing white with precise edges. They were gathered around  the moon when first seen, and then started departing  "right and left." They  seemed to be far out in space. The objects spread out and then dashed toward  one another," Castano related. '"It looked like some kind of a  war." To Mr. Castano, who had never believed in the existence of UFOs  before, the event was completely mystifying (Ref. 5).

The  Castanos did not describe the large cloud, but this is probably because he was  much further north than the Long Beach witnesses. Was he seeing the smaller  related objects on a mission inward from the Channel (Ref. 6)?

Another  report which seems to validate the above speculation comes from the files of  Paul Wilson, another local UFO researcher. He was informed by his neighbors,  Michael and Leslie G. that they had seen a glowing UFO about 9:30 or 10:00 p.m.  on the same night. It traveled toward their home in Hawthorne (fifteen air miles  northwest of Long Beach), approaching from the east.  It was oval and slightly smaller than the  full moon. It was shiny white with clearcut edges, seemed to be several miles  away, and traveled toward the south away from the moon and back again. It was  soundless, spun in an apparent circle "around the moon" and  afterwards let off streams of smoke or vapor from its side. Duration of  sighting was twenty (20) minutes (Ref. 7).

From  the similarities in description from the Castano and G. families, it might be  assumed that they were viewing the smaller objects during a foray inland. The  Castanos saw four objects, the G's a single one. We might speculate that the  five small obJects associated with the main cloud-mass had spilt up into two  groups, while the parent object or "cloud cigar" hovered high over  the Pacific.

While  all this activity was going on, SKYNET was making frantic efforts to obtain  additional witnesses and documentation. The only SKYNET member residing near  the coast, Jim Griebel, was contacted. His home was three miles north of the  Long Beach          witnesses.  Through binoculars he could see a cloud-like  conglomeration low on the southerly horizon. Whether composed of one or two masses  he was not sure, but the mass(es) seemed diamond-shaped on one end and rounded  on the other. The bright light from the moon dissipated Griebel's view, but  there seems little doubt that he was seeing the primary cloud-object which was  being viewed from Long Beach.  Including  Griebel, twelve (12) witnesses in all, from four (4) independent groups,  reported the July 9th, 1968 event.

Nothing  about the above cases seemed to click into place at the time of their  occurrence. The 1962 case remained an enigma for thirteen years, shoved back  into the inner recesses of the two witnesses' minds.  That "something" could appear from          almost "nothing" and  retain shapes, position, and activity for over three hours was inexplicable.  The 1968 case, which tasted at least an hour and one-half, was considered a  possible "cloud-cigar."  This  UFO-type is described by Aime Michel in his classic book, Flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery  (Ref. 8).

THE ENIGMA OF 1973: On December 20, 1973, another mystery occurred  over the Pacific Ocean between the mainland and Catalina Island. This sighting  was as bizarre and long-lived as the two which had gone before. Although at  first glance it appeared unassociated with the vaporous masses in the first two  events, further study has convinced this author that all three phenomena have  many factors in common. Therefore, the three cases are being presented together  in order that opinions can
          be sought from other researchers.

About  2:15 a.m. on December 20, 1973 Michael Wagner of Pacific Palisades noticed a yellow  glowing "blob" hovering in the south-southeast at an elevation of  approximately twenty (20) degrees. He called it to the attention of Robert B.  Klinn,          known in UFO circles as a skilled  researcher. Their viewing position was about twenty miles northwest of Long  Beach.

The two witnesses took turns studying the  light through a 16-power Navy spyglass, which they were able to steady on a ledge  at Klinn's residence. As seen through the telescope, the "blob"  resolved into a precise arrangement of round, yellow-gold lights. Though the  entire mass appeared larger than Venus with the naked eye, through the 'scope  the lights encompassed an area of approximately three (3) millimeters. They  were arranged in a vertical column bisecting a horizontal column of equal  length. Additional columns of light appeared and arranged themselves into a  nearly perfect light-studded triangle.  The  witnesses adjusted the telescope, and when Klinn again          looked through it about three  minutes later, the complex of lights had assumed the shape of a huge,  cigar-shaped "machine."   Its  edges were clearcut against the sky. Along its side was a horizontal row of  about five huge, fiery round lights along the          length of the object. These lights  were very much larger and brighter than the ones observed earlier; in fact, the  entire  object had expanded in size at  least twenty times. (See  Figure D).

Figure D

Each  light held tremendous activity within it, "as if looking  inside a boiling steel furnace, and even more  so". Their primary color was yellow, but many other colors were visible in  their teeming mass. As the witnesses watched astounded, the first light  ballooned up "like a critical explosion" and smashed through the  light directly to its right. That one in turn seemed to flare up, as did each  in the entire row, as the first   fireball  traversed the entire row. At the extreme right, the fiery,explosive light  paused and pulsated about twice per second; then the smashing reaction returned  along the row of lights from right to left. The entire trip back and forth took  an estimated          thirteen (13) seconds.

As  this was happening, a fin-shaped appendage with a vertical  row of smaller yellow lights was moving back  and forth along the top of the cigar-shaped object "in a very mechanical  way."  Meantime, the entire object,  which now covered more than one and one-half (I 1/2) centimeters in the  'scope's field of view, was moving slowly westward at an estimated five (5)  degrees per hour.  Toward the end of the sighting,  which lasted about one and one-half hours, the object changed shape once more.  The appendage on top widened, the lights flickered out, and the object became a  darkened cone-shape with a rounded bottom. One faint red light blinked with  regular rhythm on the top. Then the object faded from view at 3:37 a.m. (Ref.  9).

ATTEMPTS AT CORRELATION: The July 1968 manifestation at least seemed  to fit into a recognized UFO class, that of the so-called cloud cigar, widely  assumed to be a conglomerate of smaller discs, alternate names being  "carrier craft" or "mother ship." But the 1962 and 1973  sightings cannot so easily be categorized.   Both of these objects changed shape, grew larger and more complex, and  demonstrated intense internal activity reminiscent of electrical discharges of  high intensity. Is it possible that the 1962 sighting, and the 1973 sighting as  well, were incidents of "materialization" into our space-time?

In  trying to determine with witness Bob Klinn the possibility that what he had  seen was related in some way with the 1962   and 1968 objects, Klinn pointed out that there was no cloud or vapor  associated with it. He felt that the 1973 object was a metallic structure and  that he was viewing the clashing spheres through "holes" of some kind  in its side.

To  the author's mind, however, in order for the 1973 witnesses to view the  activity within in its entirety, the side of the object might have been transparent  or otherwise open to view.  Is it  possible that the object was not metallic, but some sort of solid, though  transparent, material? Could they have been viewing a similar type of cigar-shaped  solid structure which had been surrounded by thick haze during the summer  sightings of 1962 and 1968?

SUGGESTIONS FOR FURTHER STUDY: The purpose of this paper has been  to alert researchers to the fact of recurring, long-lived phenomena in the  Catalina Channel area. It would be of much value to UFO research if this region  could be placed under surveillance with scientific instrumentation.

This  paper would not be complete unless it was pointed out that the Channel area has  for the past thirty years abounded in UFO reports of all types. Many  surface-type and underwater UFOs have been reported, but compared to the  long-lasting "cloud cigars" they have been unclear and short-lived.  Nevertheless, the sightings exist in sufficient numbers to alert us that this  area is, for some reason, of constant concern to someone, or something,  unknown.

Space  does not permit here to discuss these surface sightings in detail.  Suffice it to say that they are reportedly continuing  up to the present.  They could most  probably be perceived by the same type of surveillance net used to detect the high-altitude  "cloud cigars."  It is  important to reiterate five points concerning the latter type:

Consider  the value to UFO research if, within the next few years, one of these  long-lived UFO phenomena can be detected and studied.  Consider, too, the possible spinoff from a  surveillance system— the detection of frequent UFO surface phenomena in the same  area.

REFERENCES

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          (1)  "Reconnaissance Airborne Magnetometer  Survey of Southern California," (map) I960, by R. W. Bromery, K. 0. Emery,  and J. R. Balsey, Jr.  Published by Dept.  of the Interior, U.S. Survey, Washington, D.C.— Geophysical Investigations Map  GP-211.

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          (2)  "Seismic Activity and Oceanography of  the Sea Floor Off Southern California," by Clements, Thomas and Emery,  K.O. 1947, Seismology Soc. America Bull. V. 37, No. 1, pp. 307-13

Also:  "Seismic Studies of the Pacific Ocean  Floor Off California," by Raitt, R. W., 1950, Geophysics, V. 15, No. 1, p. 156

Also"  "General Geology of the Offshore Area,  Southern California," by Emery, K. 0., 1954, California Div. Mines Bull. 170, pp. l07-11

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          (3)  "Introduction," accompanying Map  described in Reference #1.

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          (4)  Documentation in private files  (Druffel).  Full report to be sent soon  to MUFON and CUFOS.
   
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          (5)  "SKYNET:   Making Sense from Confusion," by Druffel, SKYLOOK,
          December 1973,  No. 73

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          (6)  In private files (Paul Wilson), copy in  Druffel files with identifying information.

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          (7)  In private files (Druffel).  Full report to be sent soon to MUFON and CUFOS

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          (8)  Flying  Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery, by Aime Michel, Criterion Books, New  York 1958

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          (9)  "The Continuing UFO," column by Robert  B. Klinn and David Branch, in Santa Ana  Register, Santa Ana, California December 26, 1973.  [Newspaper now named The Orange County Register.]

           Also "Object Changes," SKYLOOK, February 1973, and in private files  (Druffel) and (Klinn)

BIO/RESUME [1976]:
Ann Druffel is an Associate Editor of the MUFON UFO JOURNAL and writes  a monthly column, "California Report," for that publication.  She received her B.A. in Sociology at  Immaculate Heart College in Hollywood, California and acquired one years'  graduate credit toward a M.A.in Social Case Work at the Catholic University,  Washington, D.C. She is a licensed R.S.W. (Registered Social Worker) in the State  of  California and worked for five years in  Family and Child Welfare case work before marriage.  Ann and her husband, Charles K. Druffel, are  the proud parents of five daughters. Her professional skills of interviewing,  recording, and  objective value-judging  were transferred to UFO research and free-lance writing on various earth  mysteries, especially in the fields of Ufology and psychic research. Her more  recent works include THE TUJUNGA CANYON CONTACTS, co-authored with  parapsychologist D. Scott Rogo.  Her  forthcoming book, THE DETECTIVE AND THE PSYCHIC, is authored with renowned  psychic Armand Marcotte.

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07-10-2014 om 23:15 geschreven door peter  

Zimbabwe Encounter History … In Only 9 Pages

http://www.amazon.com/The-Zimbabwe-Encounter-Aylmer-Fleischer-ebook/dp/B00BLIZBK4

06-10-2014 om 14:21 geschreven door peter  

‘I don't know what I don't know’

British MoD Forced to Release More UFO Documents in 2015: The Alleged “Last Remaining Files” Were Declassified Last Year...

By Robert Hastings
www.ufohastings.com10-3-14 

     On September 23, 2014, a newspaper story in the UK revealed that the British Ministry of Defence would be releasing 18 more UFO documents next year. This action was precipitated by the filing of a Freedom of Information request by British researcher Andy Russell, one month earlier, in which he asked:

“Whether documents covering the period 1971-76 and 1996-2000 titled ‘UFO policy’ and three other documents covering the periods June-Dec 2000, Dec 2000-Mar 2004 and March 2004 exist, and if so are they still ‘classified’.”

A search turned up the hitherto unacknowledged files, thereby contradicting the MoD’s earlier claim that all of its UFO files had been released to the public.

In June 2013, after it had been announced that the final “tranche” or batch of UFO files had just been declassified, I wrote an article saying that the MoD was almost certainly withholding additional, very sensitive, UFO-related documents. My piece featured comments by former MoD UFO Desk administrator Nick Pope, who agreed with my contention. He wrote:

Careful scrutiny of the released material shows plenty of documents have been redacted or withheld in entirety. And that's not including several of the more interesting files, documents, films and photographs that the MoD claims have been ‘inadvertently destroyed’ or ‘lost’.

In government, access to classified information is a product of your security clearance and your 'need to know'. Thus, in a sense, you can never say for sure whether you're privy to all the information on any particular topic, because even if you're the ‘Subject Matter Expert’, there may not just be specific things to which you're denied access, but areas the existence of which you're not even aware. Think of this in terms of ‘unknown unknowns’. So while I had a Top Secret SCI security clearance for much of my MoD career and certainly believe I saw all the UFO files, I can't be certain: ‘I don't know what I don't know’ is another way that those of us who have dealt with highly-classified material sometimes characterize this situation.

Regarding British UFO debunker Dr. David Clarke—who has slavishly repeated every MoD claim about the supposed lack of credible information on UFOs in its hands, and endorsed those claims as the final word on the subject—Pope said this:

Having done as a government job what he did as a hobby, I can confirm that larke has never worked for the MoD or held a security clearance. MoD redacts the files before sending them to the National Archives, so he's only ever seen the same unclassified material as any other member of the public.

One MoD document referred to him as a ‘UFO spotter’—a disparaging term used to describe somebody with a nerdish and slightly obsessive attitude to the subject...Some people would probably use the term ‘useful idiot’ to describe his parroting the MoD ‘no defense significance’ sound bite, which was designed solely to keep Parliament, the media and the public off our backs.

Pope’s last comment about Clarke received a lot of attention. Regarding the disparaging epithet, one reference website says, “In political jargon, ‘useful idiot’ is a term for people perceived as propagandists for a cause whose goals they are not fully aware of, and who are used cynically by the leaders of the cause.”¹
However, the far more interesting and significant comment by Pope was his revelation about the MoD’s underlying motivation for its claim that UFOs posed no threat to the UK.

Regarding the newly-acknowledged documents, Pope recently said, “This is a huge embarrassment for the MoD and will have UFO enthusiasts up in arms...The 18 files include ones from RAF radar specialists and from the ultra-secretive Defence Intelligence Staff, so there may be some fascinating revelations still to come."²

Having investigated the December 1980 UFO incidents at RAF Bentwaters at great length, I can confidently assert that two members of the MoD’s Air Staff Secretariat DS8 were present for some of the secret debriefings of U.S. Air Force personnel, relating to the sightings there.
Even though those individuals did not conduct the interrogations, and were merely observers, where are the MoD’s records summarizing what occurred during those witness interviews? Certainly there was nothing about them in the files released thus far.

My own Bentwaters research has focused on the events at the base’s Weapons Storage Area (WSA), during the early hours of December 28, 1980, when a UFO reportedly directed one or more laser-like beams into the bunker complex. At the time, the WSA was America’s largest tactical nuclear weapons depot in Europe, according to my former/retired U.S. Air Force sources.

Then-Lt. Col. Charles Halt, the Deputy Base Commander at the time, has described seeing the UFO and the mysterious beams in the distance—as he was investigating unexplained lights in nearby Rendlesham Forest—while at the same time hearing radio chatter from Air Force Security Police posted at the WSA, who were excitedly reporting the unknown object in the sky and one or more beams apparently falling among the weapons bunkers.


Surely the British Ministry of Defence would be interested in such an event. If so, where are its documents discussing it? Col. Halt first publicly admitted his knowledge of the incident in an Unsolved Mysteries television show that aired in 1991. In other words, the MoD had to have known about the UFO activity at the very sensitive WSA at least as early as that date—if not earlier. Wouldn’t one or more of MoD’s intelligence groups have mentioned Halt’s dramatic public admission in writing? If so, why didn’t those files end up being declassified?

I also have reliable sources who have discussed relatively recent UFO incursions at the Royal Navy’s Faslane base, in Scotland, where the UK’s Trident nuclear missile-carrying submarines are based.
If my civilian sources, who live nearby, know about these events, presumably the MoD does as well. At least, hopefully it does. Where are the documents relating to the sightings at the base? They were not among those released thus far, even though the reported incidents occurred in 2011.

In summary, the British Ministry of Defence has apparently not been entirely candid with the citizens of the UK or, at least, was very sloppy in its earlier searches for UFO-related files. The newly-discovered documents strongly suggest that other still-unacknowledged batches of files exist. Hopefully this development will result in a renewed effort on the part of British researchers to press for a truly comprehensive declassification of the entire cache of MoD files.

Anyone wishing to review a few of the nuclear weapons-related UFO documents released by the U.S. government should go to my documents page.

On September 27, 2010, I sponsored the UFOs and Nukes press conference in
Washington D.C., at which seven U.S. Air Force veterans discussed their involvement in, or knowledge of, classified incidents involving UFO activity at American nuclear weapons sites. CNN streamed the event live and the full-length video may be viewed here:

References:

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
2. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/401228/EXCLUSIVE-British-Ministry-Defence-18-more-UFO-files-available
3. Order Robert's Book Here
4. Visit Robert's Site . . .
   
   See Also:
   MoD Discovers 18 New UFO Files (Pt 1)
   British MoD Still With-Holding Secret UFO Documents
   Additional UFO ‘X Files’ Uncovered in UK
   Secret UFO Documents Still Being Withheld by British MOD
   British MoD Releases UFO X - Files

04-10-2014 om 15:01 geschreven door peter  

No, You Don't, Kevin!

MJ-12: Stanton Friedman Fires Back; The Disputation with Kevin Randle Continues ...

     I have always had a grudging admiration for Kevin's ability to write fiction. Anybody who can write many dozens of novels deserves respect. I guess I can accept a smart computer that somehow says the opposite of the truth about the CT Memo. At least we both agree it is not signed and there is no /s/. But why not note that the absence of signature is a sign of genuineness? We didn't know until well after the memo was discovered that Cutler was out of the country at that time. Why didn't the supposed (mythical) hoaxer merely add one or the other?? He is accused of adding Truman's signature. Why accuse me of saying the latter was an exact match to the one on the Bush letter? It was Kevin not me that said "exact" match. I have accepted the official findings of forensic document examiner Black as stated to Dr. Robert M. Wood that it was appended because of the feathering. Ike might well have preferred documents with signatures. Even Karl Pflock agreed that the CIA could have copied the signature.

Yes, let us talk about provenance.
What is the basis for the claim that all leaked documents have a provenance? In this case the Provider of the EBD was guilty of a crime. A hoaxer wasn’t. As Kevin knows full well photographing and distributing a TOP SECRET Restricted document to somebody without an appropriate security clearance and need-to-know is a violation of the law. Hoaxing generally is not. Why not just say "gotcha?!"
Suppose the CTM was taken by one of the declassifers (all of whom had high level clearance) and put in a jacket pocket and then later placed in Box 189? Two step process. Nobody would tell me their names.

Yes, let's not argue about the distance to the crash site. We have a highly classified preliminary briefing about an extraordinarily important event which happened 5 years earlier. The approximate distance really doesn't matter. Which route was taken?

How did the (mythical) hoaxer know that, contrary to the official claims made, that TOP SECRET RESTRICTED was in use?? Psychic I guess. How did he know that Donald Menzel would pass muster as having a very high security clearance and a very long connection with the NSA … psychic I guess.

I never talk about Willingham. What is meant by "we believed"? As Tonto said to the Lone Ranger: what do you mean "we", white man? Why is it the fatal flaw? I know that I do not have access to classified files at Sandia or elsewhere and so far as I know, Kevin doesn't either. That he didn't find anything about an "El Indio- Guerrero" crash in the unclassified world means nothing. Any information about a crashed saucer recovered on December 6, 1950, and taken to Sandia would have been highly classified just as was any analysis of the Roswell, Plains of San Agustin, or Aztec crashes. December 6, 1950, was the date of a major security alert involving motion of an object(s) in the sky. Roswell and Kenneth Arnold were highly publicized events. The Plains and Aztec were not. I strongly recommend the outstanding and comprehensive research about Aztec done by Scott and Suzanne Ramsey as reported in "The Aztec Incident"... Bruce Maccabee and Grant Cameron have written about the Dec.6, 1950 national security alert.

I don't think Kevin has provided some sort of statement that this preliminary briefing would provide a listing and details of all saucer crashes. The first one provides the basic data saying Man is not alone... an incredibly important statement. The Briefing of Ike at the Pentagon on November 18, 1952, only lasted under 50 minutes. As stated "It should be regarded as introductory to a full operations briefing intended to follow." Introductory surely doesn't mean comprehensive.

I certainly am not impressed by a kind of guilt by association with Richard Doty and the Aquarius documents. Let us look at the EBD, CT, and TF. No, I don't want to get into the false testimony of Frank Kaufmann and others. At least he admitted he had lied about taking Blanchard and Marcel to the Debris field. I still would like to know from those who say the 3 documents are phony and why they make that claim. How did anybody know the details that unexpectedly turned out to be true???

04-10-2014 om 14:34 geschreven door peter  

Gotcha, Stan!

MJ-12: Kevin Randle Rails Against Stanton Friedman's Rebuttal

     Really? This is the best you can do? I produce a long analysis of the MJ-12 mythology, complete with documentation and the best you can do is point out a mistake that is the result of a misplaced phrase and a computer glitch.* Of course I knew that Cutler had not signed the memo. You said so in your book. This is trivia.
Instead, let’s discuss the lack of provenance. In every other leak of classified material into the public arena, there is a provenance. The reporter, researcher,
recipient of the material knows the source who is available to them for questions and authentication. With MJ-12 none of those factors are in evidence and in the world of leaked and questioned documents, this is a huge red flag.
You are unable to provide the name of the source or a repository of the information that can be used to verify the authenticity. Without that, you have a work of fiction.
In fact, that could well be the genesis of MJ-12. Bill Moore, Bob Pratt, and probably Richard Doty collaborated on a novel that had the working title MAJIK – 12, but Moore changed the name to The Aquarius Project. It is the blueprint for MJ-12 and was written two YEARS before the film allegedly arrived at Jaime Shandera’s house. When MJ-12 was revealed to the world, Bob Pratt thought it time to “dust off” the novel and see if they could sell it. Isn’t that an interesting coincidence?
And you must remember that Bill Moore talked to you about creating a “Roswell” document in the hopes it would suggest to some witnesses it was now legal for them to talk about the classified research. Yes, you have denied this in the past, but Moore mentioned it to others so it is not from a single source, it is the genesis of MJ-12.
Let’s talk about Project Aquarius, which you ignore.
This is, in fact, the original program that evolved into MJ-12. The first mention of MJ-12 is in a document that also mentions Project Aquarius, which it turns out, is a hoax. Isn’t it interesting that this initial appearance of MJ-12 is a hoax? And I haven’t even mentioned the MJ-5 fiasco.
And don’t forget that you have said repeatedly that the Cutler/Twining memo was planted in the National Archives. We just disagree on who placed it there. You fail to mention that the carbon copy was folded as it would have been if mailed (and which makes it easier to conceal in the inside pocket of a suit jacket), but there is no reason to fold it because it would have been filed flat. To me it was planted to provide a provenance for an MJ-12 document as a way to blunt that argument. It failed in that respect.
I don’t really care to argue about the trivia of the distances to the debris field but will say this. It would seem that in a document that includes a section of maps (unavailable to us) it would have the distances calculated precisely, especially from a military organization that contains a couple of dozen trained navigators. Their jobs were critical in combat, so they would have been able to provide precise distances and locations (grid coordinates) which should have been reflected in the body of the EBD but are not.

But the fatal flaw is the Robert Willingham nonsense. Here is something that reflects the state of UFO research in the mid-1980s. Many of us believed in the 1980s that Willingham’s tale of seeing a crashed flying saucer was true when his affidavit appeared. We believed him because he was a high-ranking Air Force officer telling a tale that seemed to be plausible. We believed that Todd Zechel had verified Willingham’s credentials, and now, in the EBD, there was further evidence that his story was true.
But the first version of Willingham’s tale took place in 1948 and involved three objects, one of which crashed. This version was published in 1968 in Skylook and told us Willingham was a CAP officer as opposed to an Air Force officer. To make it worse, he claims to have been flying a fighter that wasn’t operational in 1948.
In the version that appears in the MJ-12 document, the crash took place on December 6, 1950. This can be traced to Zechel and Moore and suggests the UFO was “incinerated” upon impact. Willingham tacitly agreed with that date, but later changed it so that he could tell his ridiculous story about flying fighters in Korea in December 1950.
In the last version, Willingham said that the events took place in 1954 or 1955. If true, then the tale couldn’t appear in a document created in 1952. And further research proved that Willingham had not been an Air Force officer nor was he a fighter pilot. His tale was invention and shouldn’t appear in a document created at the highest levels for the president. They would have known it wasn’t true if it had been told prior to the creation of the EBD, unless, of course, the EBD was created in the 1980s by those who weren’t on the inside and believed the tale at the time.
There is absolutely no evidence of a crash in the El Indio - Guerrero area of Mexico. And before we have to hear that “absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence” I should point out that I have searched everywhere for evidence of this event. Friends and colleagues have searched for anything related to this published in the right time frame or witnessed in the right time frame at the locations mentioned and have failed. There is nothing to suggest a UFO crash on December 6, 1950. At this point, given the situation, those advocating the authenticity of MJ-12 must present something other than the MJ-12 document as evidence that this crash happened and if unable to do so, should then reevaluate their opinion on MJ-12. Or, to put a point on it, absence of evidence is evidence of absence in this case.

In fact, let’s take it a step farther, if you are advocating a crash on the Plains of San Agustin in July 1947, then you must explain why that is not mentioned in the MJ-12 document.
These two points seem to be mutually exclusive. If MJ-12 is real, then this crash must not have happened. If there was such a crash, then MJ-12 must be in error. There would be no reason to withhold this information from a document prepared for the president. Both can’t be authentic and I suspect both are fraudulent.
Or, if you believe there was a crash in Aztec, NM in March 1948, then why wasn’t it mentioned in the MJ-12 document? Doesn’t its absence argue against the authenticity of the Aztec crash? Conversely, if Aztec is a real event, then doesn’t that argue against the authenticity of MJ-12?

What we have in the MJ-12 document is the situation as it existed in the mid-1980s. At that time, those who faked the document didn’t believe in Aztec or the Plains crash but did in the Willingham tale. They attempted to create a document that seemed to have been written in 1952, but these elements have helped us date it. Willingham’s UFO crash tale is the real fatal flaw in MJ-12.
But rather than talk about these points critical to MJ-12, we delve into minutia of it with little regard to the overall picture. We engage in “gotcha” argument rather than something of substance that actually helps us resolve this dilemma. So there is a minor error in my analysis? Does that negate the overall challenge to MJ-12? No, these arguments about it just obscure the truth.
I could drag in aspects of this in which you have made mistakes, including your belief that the signature on the Truman memo is an exact match until you learned that no two signatures are an exact match. Then you changed your tune, but overlooked the minor alteration to the stroke crossing the “T” in Truman. The reason was Truman’s signature habitually touched the text and it was necessary to carefully remove the evidence of where it bushed those letters.
And, I expect to hear about how Phil Klass paid you one thousand dollars because you provided samples of pica type on White House letters.
But if we wish to understand this MJ-12 mess, then it is necessary to understand the major issues arguing against authenticity rather than minor problems with the analysis. Let’s resolve the major issues before we begin with the minor and irrelevant ones.

*For those who have corresponded with me on a regular basis, you know that my computer regularly launches emails in the middle of sentences. It has to do with the way the touch pad is laid into the lap top. I’m not sure what causes it… but this same flaw also will highlight text and delete as I type. I usually catch it and can recover it, but sometimes I don’t see this happening. I catch it on proofreading because there are usually two sentences or two paragraphs jammed together that have no transition. In this case, it took out several paragraphs in which I was discussing, as you did, the sample from Cutler’s office that had been signed.
The flow seemed natural and I didn’t catch the change which says that Cutler  had signed the memo. Of course he hadn’t and I knew that.

You can take it
from there. I have no desire to prolong the agony.

04-10-2014 om 14:27 geschreven door peter