Dit is ons nieuw hondje Kira, een kruising van een waterhond en een Podenko. Ze is sinds 7 februari 2024 bij ons en druk bezig ons hart te veroveren. Het is een lief, aanhankelijk hondje, dat zich op een week snel aan ons heeft aangepast. Ze is heel vinnig en nieuwsgierig, een heel ander hondje dan Noleke.
This is our new dog Kira, a cross between a water dog and a Podenko. She has been with us since February 7, 2024 and is busy winning our hearts. She is a sweet, affectionate dog who quickly adapted to us within a week. She is very quick and curious, a very different dog than Noleke.
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The purpose of this blog is the creation of an open, international, independent and free forum, where every UFO-researcher can publish the results of his/her research. The languagues, used for this blog, are Dutch, English and French.You can find the articles of a collegue by selecting his category. Each author stays resposable for the continue of his articles. As blogmaster I have the right to refuse an addition or an article, when it attacks other collegues or UFO-groupes.
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In 2012 verloor ze haar moedige strijd tegen kanker!
In 2011 startte ik deze blog, omdat ik niet mocht stoppen met mijn UFO-onderzoek.
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UFO's of UAP'S in België en de rest van de wereld In België had je vooral BUFON of het Belgisch UFO-Netwerk, dat zich met UFO's bezighoudt. BEZOEK DUS ZEKER VOOR ALLE OBJECTIEVE INFORMATIE , enkel nog beschikbaar via Facebook en deze blog.
Verder heb je ook het Belgisch-Ufo-meldpunt en Caelestia, die prachtig, doch ZEER kritisch werk leveren, ja soms zelfs héél sceptisch...
Voor Nederland kan je de mooie site www.ufowijzer.nl bezoeken van Paul Harmans. Een mooie site met veel informatie en artikels.
MUFON of het Mutual UFO Network Inc is een Amerikaanse UFO-vereniging met afdelingen in alle USA-staten en diverse landen.
MUFON's mission is the analytical and scientific investigation of the UFO- Phenomenon for the benefit of humanity...
Je kan ook hun site bekijken onder www.mufon.com.
Ze geven een maandelijks tijdschrift uit, namelijk The MUFON UFO-Journal.
Since 02/01/2020 is Pieter ex-president (=voorzitter) of BUFON, but also ex-National Director MUFON / Flanders and the Netherlands. We work together with the French MUFON Reseau MUFON/EUROP.
ER IS EEN NIEUWE GROEPERING DIE ZICH BUFON NOEMT, MAAR DIE HEBBEN NIETS MET ONZE GROEP TE MAKEN. DEZE COLLEGA'S GEBRUIKEN DE NAAM BUFON VOOR HUN SITE... Ik wens hen veel succes met de verdere uitbouw van hun groep. Zij kunnen de naam BUFON wel geregistreerd hebben, maar het rijke verleden van BUFON kunnen ze niet wegnemen...
15-02-2014
Are Robots Alien nearby? INVISIBLE probes sent by unknown civilisations could already be in our solar system
Are Robots Alien nearby? INVISIBLE probes sent by unknown civilisations could already be in our solar system
Mathematicians believe robotic space probes, perhaps slightly similar to Nasa's Van Allen (pictured) have been sent by alien civilisations and could be in our solar system
.Researchers from Edinburgh University analysed how a ‘fleet’ of probes could travel through space
Alien probes would only need to travel at one tenth of the speed of light in order to explore every part of our galaxy
Scottish mathematicians warn that alien probes are so hi-tech we probably can’t detect them
Their theory shows that it is mathematically possible for alien probes to have already arrived
Our Voyager probe uses a similar technique on planets in the solar system, but utilising the larger gravity of a star would lead to a much bigger speed boost.
The mathematicians used computing power to inform their predictions, which might not sound out of place in a sci-fi novel.
Their work shows that it is mathematically possible for alien probes to be close by, but does not explain why they have not been in touch.
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Introducing ourselves to aliens
Introducing ourselves to aliens
Imagine being assigned to explain to an extraterrestrial — a space alien — what it means to be an earthling.
To do so, you can put some inscriptions on a gold-plated copper disc.
That was the mission author Ann Druyan undertook nearly four decades ago.
Now, with the twin Voyager spacecraft departing our solar system, she expresses hope someday the messages and recordings her committee put together will be found.
“It would be just stupefying if we are the only intelligent beings,” Druyan said during a visit to the Jet Propulsion Laboratory on Wednesday for a commemoration of the Voyager mission.
The twin Voyagers were launched in 1977 for a “grand tour” of the outer planets.
This was made possible by a planetary alignment that recurs once every 176 years.
The trajectories ultimately will take the Voyagers into interstellar space.
During mission planning, the decision was made to attach messages to the spacecraft in case they are encountered by extraterrestrials.
Druyan signed on as creative director for what was called the “Interstellar Message Project.”
But where to begin?
How to convey the essence of humanity and planet Earth to an unseen, unimagined stranger?
“It was like designing a Noah’s Ark of human culture,” Druyan recalled.
Right off the bat, recordings of sounds, the human voice, and music were deemed essential.
This was well before the invention of Compact Discaudio recording, so the sound was etched into grooves on the disc like an old fashioned vinyl LP.
A stylus was thoughtfully included for extraterrestrials without a phonograph player and schematic instructions for playing were etched into a second disc.
The musical selections spanned the globe and millenia.
Druyan confided that her favorites included a cut by Louie Armstrong, and Chuck Berry’s “Johnny B. Goode.”
In fact, years later when JPL celebrated the Voyagers reaching Neptune in 1989, Berry traveled to the La Canada Flintridge facility and performed his hits for the earthling scientists.
Also included on the space-bound discs were the sounds of a mother with her newborn, dozens of images oflife on earth, and a recording of the brainwaves of a young woman who had just fallen in love.
That would be Druyan, who had begun a relationship with Carl Sagan, the famed astronomer who later reached out to the general public with “Cosmos,” the PBS documentary series that became a cultural touchstone of the 1980s.
Druyan is now working on a successor series.
Even before the original “Cosmos,” Voyager’s cosmic outreach resonated with popular culture.
It inspired the premise of 1979′s Star Trek: The Movie, in which unfriendly aliens intercept a fictional Voyager and used it to find their way to Earth with mischief in mind.
Druyan hopes more altruistic aliens will someday discover the real Voyagers with their space age messages in a bottle.
In her fantasy, the ships are found by space cruisers who add the Voyagers to their collection, delivering them to otherworldly graduate students for analysis.
But what will they make of us?
“I hope they’ll feel that we had only the best of intentions, and that we knew how limited we were, but we really wanted to make contact with the Cosmos,” she says.
Brett Whitmarsh – KNBC
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An unidentified flying object (UFO) can be anything at all: an unauthorized flight, a light, a drone or unmanned aircraft, an optical illusion, or an alien spacecraft.
Any aerial object flying within national airspace whose flight is unlawful, anomalous and unidentifiable in nature represents a threat to civilian and military security and navigation. For this reason, the Peruvian Air Force (FAP) has the duty to look into these phenomena in order to safeguard order and proper use of the national air corridors. “These were the words of Pedro Cateriano, Peru's Minister of the Air, to BBC Mundo (BBC World).
It was thus that the government reopened DIFAA, the Department of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena Investigation, under the jurisdiction of the Air Force itself.
Whether aliens travel aboard those lights or vehicles is not the department's concern, and the beliefs or desires of its investigators regarding the subject are part of their private lives.
This office looks into any phenomenon or object that can jeopardize a military or passenger aircraft. However, most of the cases recorded cannot be explained and the question marks about signs of life beyond our planet emerge once more.
I've Seen a UFO
The phone rings at DIFAA and a specialist writes down the information. Calls have been received more than once from someone claiming to be in contact with aliens and that their mission is to save the world. These calls are usually dismissed.
“We have no way of telling what it is unless we can analyze the images or videos submitted to us, aside from the questionnaires to be filled in by the witnesses,” said Marco Barraza, an investigator and member of the DIFAA team.
If someone reports a strange light, the first thing they do is cross-check the information with the control towers of the nearest airports. “The idea is to activate a protocol and create a record. This is how accidents are prevented,” he explained.
DIFAA's advisory board is formed by eight civilians (an astronomer, an archaeologist, a sociologist, a former pilot, a physicist, a philosopher, a broadcaster and a sociologist) and two military men. They are in charge of conducting the evaluations and preparing a report for DINAE (the Office of Aerospace Interests).
The goal is to have a record. Certain constants emerge: spheres, elongated objects, cylinders, diamonds and luminous triangles. The places where they appear also repeat, almost always in the vicinity of archaeological sites.
What are they? Are they from other worlds? The mystery will remain unsolved until they can be touched, and their nature ascertained.
The Catch of the Day
Commander Julio Chamorro (Ret.) forms part of DIFAA's advisory board. Chamorro was the founder and leader of OIFAA (The Office of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena Investigation) which operated from 1999 to 2005, and the first military man to state the need to look into these phenomena.
The reasons Chamorro presented to his superiors for opening an office for the study of possible alien craft were based on Chapter 12 of the Peruvian Constitution, declaring that the duty of the State is to safeguard the Nation through its Armed Forces.
"The officers working at the La Joya military base were used to sightings. There was an event that repeated every December. We called it the Star of David because we didn't know the nature of that bright light that shined at us day and night. There was also the so-called lost city: in the distance you could see a brightly-lit city that receded as you approached it. It was so frequent that it stopped being important," said Chamorro to BBC Mundo.
A Luminous Orb
There was a rumor circulating at the time. Alberto Fujimori, who was president at the time, used to go fishing on the Amazon River aboard a FAP aircraft. They say that while he fished, a luminous orb emerged from the river and flew into the air. Fujimori and his team saw it, but agreed to say nothing about it.
"It's true, it happened," states Chamorro. Marco Barraza corroborates the anecdote. Was it for this reason that the office could be opened? According to Chamorro, "this possibly aided in making the decision to open the office." But what has been the use of all the information collected, both by the first office as well as the current department?
"What's important is acceptance by the public and their desire to share their experiences. This is something that involves all of humanity and no one is excluded from what's going on," Chamorro stressed. There isn't much criticism in Peru against programs of this sort, unless they incur considerable expenditures or some important error is revealed.
In The Region
Perú isn't the only country looking for an explanation about anomalous aerial phenomena. Chile has the Commission for the Study of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena (CEFAA), Argentina has the UFO Phenomena Study Commission (CEFORA) and Uruguay has the Unidentified Flying Obejct Report Reception and Investigation Commission (CRIDOVNI).
"Some of the country's regions have built alliances with a view toward exchanging specialized information in a strategic manner, in order to pool their efforts on the research into these subjects," stated Defense Minister Pedro Cateriano. "However, Peru is fully capable today of analyzing and researching this phenomenon in an autonomous and independent manner and it would only appeal for an exchange of information with neighboring countries in an exceptional manner with the aim of cross-checking information for more exact conclusions."
And until a more exact conclusion is achieved, DIFAA's advisory board will wait for the phone to ring again to create another file that may someday, perhaps, answer the question: What if we're not alone?
[Translation (c) 2014, Scott Corrales (IHU) with thanks to Guillermo Giménez, Planeta UFO]
Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil – February 1980 – night
The witness who for the past two to three months had been followed by three strange men wearing black suits, was standing in front of his house one night when a car drove up and the door opened. The witness apparently lost his will and was compelled to enter the vehicle; inside the same three men he had been trying to hide from met him.
They drove around for a while until they reached a wooded area outside the city. They stopped the car near a large hovering object that was encircled by a luminous ring. The witness and the three men then walked underneath the object and were hit by a beam of light. He suddenly found himself inside the object, sitting on a chair. Suddenly handles appeared on the chair that secured his wrists and an iron bar pressed his forehead backwards while another gadget held his neck. The three men then appeared and suddenly seemed to shed their skin or bodies and transformed themselves into green scaly reptilian like creatures with heart shaped heads. The beings interrogated the witness and spoke of upcoming global events. At one point a door in the room was opened and he was able to see human corpses hanging by their feet from hooks on the walls. Everything went blank after that and his next conscious memory was of standing next to a theater near his home.
Source: Antonio Huneeus, UFO Universe
NOTE: This is one of the earliest MIB / Reptilian accounts from outside the United States. Most MIB accounts tell of hybrid beings that do not transform or change…well, at least not out in the human public. The MIB or related phenomena seem to be incorporated in almost all paranormal scenarios. Maybe one day the truth, or what I like to call ‘The Big Answer’, will be more obvious…Lon
Location: Near Norway, Iowa – mid-December 2002 – night
The witness was on his way home late one night after work. He almost always walked the train tracks because they were a straight shot towards the house. These train tracks ran past a cemetery which was alleged to be haunted…an old settler cemetery. It’s already dark and has been so for a few hours. There was no moon that night.
As he walks near the cemetery, he starts hearing muffled footsteps behind him but doesn’t think much of it. Plenty of other guys walk home this way as well. So he keeps going and the footsteps get louder and louder. About midway past the cemetery he’s gets nervous and the steps are getting closer so he turns to look behind him. According to the witness he saw a “goatman” or “the devil himself”.
He describes this ‘thing’ as a man who basically had goat hooves and horns along the lines of the mythical ‘Pan’. And this thing was heading straight for him. Reportedly all the snow around this creature was instantly melting as it walked through. The witness runs screaming like a banshee. He hears the clopping of the beast’s footsteps behind him speed up to catch him as he’s running. Finally he gets past the graveyard and sees the thing stop right at the edge of the cemetery. He continues running, stops to look back and the beast just vanishes.
One of his older co-workers confided with the witness that there was a tale about a ‘goatman’ many years ago. It was supposedly a Polish immigrant who disappeared one night but returned as the creature several years later. There had been UFO and strange being reports around the same time the man had vanished.
Source:Witness account
NOTE: this anecdote was forwarded to me several years ago. I could not verify the story of the ‘goatman’ though there were a few UFO sightings and at least one reported abduction in the early 1990′s…Lon
Location: Cheljabinsk, Russia – Spring 2002 – no time given
In the spring of 2002, a guard from the zoo of Cheljabinsk city was alerted though the strange barking of one of the guard dogs. The dog was very worked up, and tried to break free. The guard and random visitors of the zoo were witnesses to a large, hairy being attempting to jump over the fence of the park. Just as it had almost cleared the fence, the dog broke free and attacked the interloper. The being fled, following a short fight. Cries and murmurs could be heard coming from his direction. The dog returned in the morning covered with blood. Tufts of gray hair and footprints were discovered on the fence. The blood and hair were examined. The examination revealed that the hair did not belong to any known animal, but rather to an unknown primate.
The size of the footprints were 50 x 25 centimeters, the length of the stride was about 2 meters. The next morning, and employee saw a three-meter tall being in the forest near the zoo. He walked away from it. The zoo’s veterinarian, Valentin Gorbenko, examined the hair and tracks. He states that this ‘hominid being’ came to the zoo looking for food following his winter hibernation. He also thinks that the creature was a descendant of one which was seen at the zoo 10 years earlier.
Location: Barangay Cabuling, Philippines – September 22, 2004 – evening
16-year-old Tata Porras claimed that his 14-year-old brother Michael was attacked by an “aswang”, which he claimed was disguised as a big black dog with red glowing eyes. Porra’s description aptly fit the physical appearance of the supernatural being that has the ability to transform itself into different forms while devouring a prey.
He claimed that he and his younger brother were sleeping in as mall makeshift hut near their rice field on the above evening, guarding their farm ducks, when the incident occurred. The boy’s parents were sleeping in their house just a few meters away from the rice field. Tata reported that the big black dog was about three feet high and was about to bite the neck of his younger brother when he saw it. When he saw the creature he grabbed his single shot rifle and shot at the creature. The creature then fled and was lost in the dark. Prior to the alleged attack, Tata said he heard a squeaking sound outside the makeshift hut. Michael was hit on his right leg when Tata fired the shot at the aswang. He was immediately brought to the South Cotabato Provincial Hospital for medical treatment.
Location: Sevilla, Spain – October 14, 2000 – night
Joaquin Aranda was out hunting in a field near his ranch when he spotted on top of a nearby hill, a luminous figure that as it walked, emitted flashes of bright light. Aranda then told his dog to go towards the strange figure. The animal walked a few paces then ran away into the brush. Lacking options and a little frightened the witness fired a shot into the air. Instead of being intimidated the luminous figure began walking towards the witness. At this point Aranda fired towards the figure that ignored the shot and apparently was not harmed and kept approaching him. Frightened Aranda dropped the rifle and fled from the area. Returning to the scene the next day accompanied by his sons, Aranda found the rifle propped up against a tree, and no tracks or footprints around it.
That same night Diego Garrido was driving on the C-421 motorway near the city when as he rounded a curve he noticed a very luminous figure that appeared to be walking along the embankment. As Garrido drove by, the figure lunged towards the car, causing the witness to slam on the brakes. He noticed that the figure had amorphous facial features, with two concaved cavities where the eyes would have been and a small dot in the area of the nose. Terrified the witness accelerated and left the area at high speed.
Source: Jose Manuel Garcia Bautista, Rafael Cabello Herrero
Viewed to North, direction of travel from east to west. Duration of observation 2-3 mins. My partner and I stepped outside to smoke a cigarette before going to bed. I noticed the super brilliant Orange/Red spherical object just over the rooftop. She also witnessed this event. Orb/object was surrounded in a conical Iridescence, possibly ionization from the atmosphere, which varied in shape aft of the object and decreased in shape and visibility further downrange to the west. Initially the object size at first sighting overhead was the size of a “BB” held at arms length. Appx Altitude was 30-40,000 feet, ceiling:Unlimited. To slow to be meteoric. To low to be a satellite. I am ruling out aircraft military/commercial and this was not an Iridium Satellite flash sighting folks…Anyone else see this? I have uploaded my Photo Shop rendering of the object and it is Spot On! NOTE: The above image is a rendering.
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JULY 30, 2012 …. KANSAS CITY MISSOURI
I am the pilot of a regularly scheduled commercial aircraft flight from St. Louis to Kansas City and was on approach to KCI when my co-pilot said he saw an unidentified object to the right of the aircraft that appeared to be following us. It was not yet in my range of view, so I asked him to confirm that and the object remained. I radioed the tower and asked for radar confirmation but there was none. Then the object came into my view to the right front of the aircraft. At that point we were approximately 35 minutes out from the airport. The object was a silver/gray color and had three blue/white lights on the bottom and one on the top. It was a disc-shaped craft with a low dome on top. It was approximately 300 feet from our aircraft and NNE of our position. Then the object suddenly moved underneath us and to the left, and continued at the our same rate of speed. I discussed this with my co-pilot and we decided not to tell the tower what we saw because of what happens when reports like this are made. The tower then asked us to confirm an unidentified object and I said it was no longer in view. I was concerned, however, that it might be a problem. The object stayed with us for approximately 22 minutes. When I decreased aircraft speed for approach, the object slowed as well, then went directly south of our position at a very high rate of speed – faster than any aircraft I’ve ever seen. I was a military pilot for 14 years and know what type of aircraft we have. It was definitely NOT a man-made aircraft. Some pilots have lost their jobs when they report a UFO, and I would like to keep mine so am not providing my name or contact information. Some of the passengers were discussing this as they left the plane but we did not discuss it with them. Other crew members saw it as well, but did not report it. I just wanted to tell someone about it. NOTE: The above images are renderings.
Publisher's Note:An unidentified photographer sent in a brief sighting report to the Mutal UFO Network (MUFON) website which included several photographs. Apparently the photographer was creating a multi-photo panoramic view of the area when he accidentally caught two what he calls “two cylinder shaped UFOs”. Enjoy Dirk
MUFON Case No.: 54081
Date Submitted: February 15, 2014
Date of Event: November 28, 2007
Location:Whitby, Great Britain
My family and I went to Whitby on 28 October 2007 for the Goth Weekend.
I had a new Olympus E330 with which I took three photos on the top of Whitby Cliffs (next to the Abbey) to stitch together for a panorama Christmas week that year.
I opened the photo on my PC full size and was astonished to see two cylinder shaped UFOs just below the clouds. There have never been any similar entities on photos and I know that they are not any form of lens flare.
When you zoom in on the Photo you can see that the cylinders are lighter on top and darker underneath.
There was no sound and I did not see them when I took the photo.
If you watch the follow up it explains the fact that this image is no longer there. It WAS there and many people saw it. Either it was removed because it was out of place or because the uploaded removed it. No idee, but it definitely was there for a time which made it one of the most interesting images on Google Earth, for one reason or another. This was seen on, Feb 2013.
UFO mania: How would humanity change if we knew aliens existed?
UFO mania: How would humanity change if we knew aliens existed?
We have yet to discover any signs of an extraterrestrial civilization — a prospect that could quite literally change overnight. Should that happen, our sense of ourselves and our place in the cosmos would forever be shaken. It could even change the course of human history. Or would it?
Last week, SETI's Seth Shostak made the claim that we'll detect an alien civilization by 2040. Personally, I don't believe this will happen (for reasons I can elucidate in a future post — but the Fermi Paradox is definitely a factor, as is the problem of receiving coherent radio signals across stellar distances). But it got me wondering: What, if anything, would change in the trajectory of a civilization's development if it had definitive proof that intelligent extraterrestrials (ETIs) were real?
Finding a World Much Like Our Own
As I thought about this, I assumed a scenario with three basic elements.
First, that humanity would make this historic discovery within the next several years or so. Second, that we wouldn't actually make contact with the other civilization (just the receipt, say, of a radio transmission — something like a Lucy Signal that would cue us to their existence). And third, that the ETI in question would be at roughly the same level of technological development as our own (so they're not too much more advanced than we are; that said, if the signal came from an extreme distance, like hundreds or thousands of light-years away, these aliens would probably have advanced appreciably by now. Or they could be gone altogether, the victims of a self-inflicted disaster).
I tossed this question over to my friend and colleague Milan Cirkovic. He's a Senior Research Associate at the Astronomical Observatory of Belgrade and a leading expert on SETI.
"Well, that's a very practical question, isn't it?" he responded. "Because people have been expecting something like this since 1960 when SETI was first launched — they haven't really been expecting to find billion-year old supercivilizations or just some stupid bacteria."
Indeed, the underlying philosophy of SETI over the course of its 50-year history has been that we'll likely detect a civilization roughly equal to our own — for better or worse. And no doubt, in retrospect it started to look "for worse" when the hopes of an early success were dashed. Frank Drake and his colleagues thought they would find signs of ETIs fairly quickly, but that turned out not to be the case (though Drake's echo can still be heard in the unwarranted contact optimism of Seth Shostak).
"Enormous Implications"
"Some people argued that a simple signal wouldn't mean much for humanity," added Cirkovic, "but I think Carl Sagan, as usual, had a good response to this."
Specifically, Sagan said that the very understanding that we are not unique in the universe would have enormous implications for all those fields in which anthropocentrism reigns supreme.
"Which means, I guess, half of all the sciences and about 99% of the other, non-scientific discourse," said Cirkovic.
Sagan also believed that the detection of a signal would reignite enthusiasm for space in general, both in terms of research and eventually the colonization of space.
"The latter point was quite prescient, actually, because at the time he said this there wasn't much enthusiasm about it and it was much less visible and obvious than it is today," he added.
No doubt — this would likely generate tremendous excitement and enthusiasm for space exploration. In addition to expanding ourselves into space, there would be added impetus to reach out and meet them.
At the same time, however, some here on Earth might counterargue that we should stay home and hide from potentially dangerous civilizations (ah, but what if everybody did this?). Ironically, some might even argue that we should significantly ramp-up our space and military technologies to meet potential alien threats.
Developmental Trajectories
In response to my query about the detection of ETIs affecting the developmental trajectory of civilizations, Cirkovic replied that both of Sagan's points can be generalized to any civilization at their early stages of development.
He believes that overcoming speciesist biases, along with a constant interest and interaction with the cosmic environment, must be desirable for any (even remotely) rational actors anywhere. But Cirkovic says there may be exceptions — like species who emerge from radically different environments, say, the atmospheres of Jovian planets. Such species would likely have a lack of interest in surrounding space, which would be invisible to them practically 99% of the time.
So if Sagan is correct, detecting an alien civilization at this point in our history would likely be a good thing. In addition to fostering science and technological development, it would motivate us to explore and colonize space. And who knows, it could even instigate significant cultural and political changes (including the advent of political parties both in support of and in opposition to all this). It could even lead to new religions, or eliminate them altogether.
Another possibility is that nothing would change. Life on Earth would go on as per usual as people work to pay their bills and keep a roof above their heads. There could be a kind of detachment to the whole thing, leading to a certain ambivalence.
At the same time however, it could lead to hysteria and paranoia. Even worse, and in twisted irony, the detection of a civilization equal to our own (or any life less advanced than us, for that matter) could be used to fuel the Great Filter Hypothesis of the Fermi Paradox. According to Oxford's Nick Bostrom, this would be a strong indication that doom awaits us in the (likely) near future — a filter that affects all civilizations at or near our current technological stage. The reason, says Bostrom, is that in the absence of a Great Filter, the galaxy should be teeming with super-advanced ETIs by now. Which it's clearly not.
Yikes. Stupid Fermi Paradox — always getting in the way of our future plans.
Buitenaardsen van Aldebaran: UFO-geheimen en het Thule-Gesellschaft (video)
Buitenaardsen van Aldebaran: UFO-geheimen en het Thule-Gesellschaft (video)
Uit verschillende onderzoeken is gebleken dat de nazi’s contact hadden met buitenaardse wezens en dat zij vliegende schotels bouwden.
Maakte het Duitse Vril-Gesellschaft simpelweg gebruik van universele vrije energie en kwantumtechnologie?
In onderstaande film wordt het verhaal achter het Vril-Gesellschaft onthuld. Deze organisatie bestond uit de elite van het Thule-Gesellschaft, waarvan enkele leden later kopstukken werden van nazi-Duitsland.
Het Thule-Gesellschaft legde contact met een groep buitenaardsen van Aldebaran die 500 miljoen jaar geleden de aarde gekoloniseerd zou hebben.
Oklahoma witnesses in Maud are curious about light and fog images captured on a game camera after setting up the equipment in the hopes of knowing what was disturbing their caged chickens, according to February 13, 2014, testimony in Case 54,054 from the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) witness reporting database.
In captured incidents occurred on various dates, with the most recent logged in at 1:04 a.m. on February 4, 2014.
“There have been numerous pictures taken by different game cameras that I've put out that catch funny looking lights as well as fog-like things we cannot understand,” the reporting witness stated. “I first put out the camera to try and catch something that was getting chickens that were caged.”
The captured objects seem to vary.
“One is kinda like a small spinning object. I've kept two of these photos of the one that was spinning. There are pictures of streaking lights, one a mule is staring at. It was in the middle of the night. There are so many different types of things that seem to be going on.”
The reporting witness and a nearby boyfriend also witnessed odd lights themselves. One night she spoke to her boyfriend by telephone.
“He said I was sure missing a light show. I hurried over to his house and saw the same thing happen only twice. He said it had been continuous before I arrived. I laid in bed starring at this star like thing that was above the tree line for over two hours and I finally went to sleep because it was just sitting there doing nothing.”
She has tried to rule out established lights on the property that might be producing the phenomena.
“There is a security light near where this was happening and it was located above and to the west of the security light. There are no other lights where this thing was. The fields I filled out above (in her report) describe not one sighting but this one plus all the other streaks of light we see on the game camera. There are several I have of a fog-like object taken in the pen I had the game camera located in. I was still trying to catch whatever had been taking the chickens. I moved it around several times and seemed to always get something weird on it. One picture shows large lights like something from way above is shining down on the area of his house, pens and shop, like four or five illuminating, like four or five fingers of light coming from the sky. I also have one picture that shows four lights or funny illuminating right in front of the camera between the chicken pens and the game camera.”
A putative UFO was recorded on video on 11 February 2014. The videographer adds that it was recorded at 22:00 hours on that day, adding: “I'm not saying it's a spaceship, but it is an unidentified flying object.”
The video – 1:30 minutes long – shows a light in the sky whose trajectory eliminates the likelihood of it being an airplane, as it comes and goes. The sighting took place at the Los Almedros II Park in Ciudad Caucel.
The videographer's attention was drawn by the shining object and he decided to record it on his tablet.
Why is Ohio the place with the most frequent UFO sightings in America?
By Michael LeeHill and Wes Penre
I think when in the near future when it is revealed that Northern Ohio was/is the home of one of the lost tribes of Israel, That the ones who were known in the past as the Nephilim – Amorites became known as the Mound Builders who created the Serpent Mound and the Newark Earthworks as well as thousands of other mounds here in Ohio, NY, and PA intermingled into the North American Iroquois Indian Tribe, the fact of what I just revealed was proven in the late 1990′s!, well that should bring A LOT of tourist attention to this area!
The Reality of a new unknown human DNA tracing back Ancient Times can no longer be questioned, it is real folks! The fact of what I just revealed was proven in the late 1990′s when a brand new DNA Haplogroup was discovered which existed in the skeletal remains removed from North American Earth Mounds, 3% of the Iroquois Tribe of Indians and Ancient Israel.
According to Iroquois legend, a son born of a virgin mother carved a canoe from a block of white granite and, traveling the shores of Lake Ontario, convinced five feuding tribes to lay down their arms and join together as the Iroquois Confederacy. The boat’s ability to float was proof to the chieftains that the youth was a divine messenger. Native wisdom, they explain, counsels that “the notion of failure is always a fiction, a false self-judgment” and that “on the path of the Wisdomkeeper, there’s only the closing of one possibility and the opening of infinite others.”
“Only those who have learned to live on the land where the waters run pure… will find sanctuary. Go to where the eagles fly, to where the wolf roams, to where the bear lives. Here you will find life because they will always go to where the water is pure and the air can be breathed. Live where the trees, the lungs of this earth, purify the air. Go to where the trees give, from their breath to you, the cleansing and the purity, to where they protect you from the plagues… Snow is the great purifier. Go to where the blanket of snow heals. Learn to live in these places. You will live through the changes…There is a time coming, beyond the weather. The veil between the physical and the spiritual world is thinning; it is coming back to life…” - Iroquois Confederacy
Why is Ohio the place with the most frequent UFO sightings in America? Is there anything special with that area making it such a large center for the incoming Anunnaki/Sirians? Why not some sparsely populated mountain ridge somewhere in a very remote area?
Well, there is actually a good reason why the incoming chose Ohio, and we are going to go into that now.
They Were Beings of Huge Stature
We know from the Bible; we know from Sitichin’s work, and we know from my own papers, that a lot of genetic experimentation and manipulation was taking place here on Earth. Around 500,000 years ago, this planet was taken over by Sirian forces, who later on replaced the slave workers of their own kind with a new species that they created in laboratories by mixing their own DNA with existing species already living here on Earth. That eventually turned into Homo sapiens, or Homo sapiens sapiens, which is us.
But there was another genetic line that was created here as well, which resulted in beings who, according to Lord ENLIL, contaminated the whole Experiment. At one time, Pleiadian Giants, so-called ‘Fallen Angels’, descended to Earth and mated with human females, whom they considered irresistible. So, in laboratories they mixed their own Giant genes with that of humans, Sirians, and even Aryans (from Orion), and the offspring became Giants, the infamous ‘Nephilim’. They could reach from 6.5 ft to nearly 15 ft in height, and were the ones who built many of the incredible stone formations all over the world; including some of the pyramids.
According to the Bible, they all drowned in the Flood, but my own research is showing that some of these Giants survived the Deluge and continued to spread over the world, and once again became ‘Men of Renown’. We also know that Lord ENLIL was furious when he found out that species whom he thought were extinct due to the Flood had been saved by his stepbrother, ENKI. One of these species was the Pleiadian Experiment, the Nephilim!
However, there was allegedly a compromise made — perhaps we could call it a treaty — where it was decided that if the Nephilim should be allowed to survive, their DNA needed to be altered to lower their stature. So, in that sense, over generations most of the Giants actually became extinct, as these beings now had more human-like offspring. Indeed, with time, it became nearly impossible to tell who was of the Nephilim and who was a ‘normal’ Homo sapiens. Although, I should add, there are still a few Giants alive on this planet, but they are currently residing underground. The Nephilim I am talking about are walking around among us, and no one can tell by just looking at them.
Interestingly enough, the spokesman for the secret society, ‘The Priory of Sion’, Nicolas Haywood, has started to come out in public, revealing some of their inner secrets. The Priory of Sion was mentioned in the book, ‘Holy Blood, Holy Grail’ in relation to the Jesus and Mary Magdalene bloodline. Michael Lee Hill has had the opportunity to talk to him as well, and Haywood indeed confirmed to Michael that the Jesus and Mary Magdalene bloodline is the Nephilim hybrid bloodline, that goes all the way back to the Anunnaki, as he put it. Michael found it interesting that Haywood mentioned the Anunnaki in this regard. In relation to my own research, I can both confirm and dismiss this, depending on what we mean by the Anunnaki. Most people who use this term for the ancient visitors are taking it from Sitchin’s work. Sitchin says that it means ‘those whom to Earth from Heaven came’, and that includes more than one species.
Now, there is supposedly one way to tell whether a person is of the Nephilim hybrid bloodline or not, and that is to draw their blood and check the CK level. The Nephilim have a sky high level of Creatine Kenase in their blood!
Sound familiar? In these papers, we are thus far aware of two people with a sky high amount of CK; Terrell Copeland and Michael Lee Hill!
Michael Lee Hill – January 2014
I don’t know if anyone has been in contact with Terrell since the blood test, but Michael has had it verified by a number of ‘people in the know’ that he indeed is of the Nephilim bloodline, and he is quite sure himself that this is the case, because it seems to explain a lot of things for him.
Now, let’s see why Ohio is such a hot spot for UFOs.
The author and researcher, Fritz Zimmerman, recently released a book called, ‘The Nephilim Chronicles; Fallen Angels in the Ohio Valley’[20]. An introduction to this book, about which Zimmerman has held quite a few lectures, can be found on YouTube. This particular one is a promotion to a lecture he actually held at the
Pythagoras Conference in 2011:
Multimedia A-8. Fritz Zimmerman at the Pythagoras Conference.
This is a part of the YouTube text that is posted beneath the video (the emphasis is mine):
“Discover a giant race called the Dinaric whose remains have been found in Jerusalem, in burial mounds at Stonehenge and the Ohio Valley. Discover the ancient Amorite Babylonian symbols that are evident at Stonehenge and the many henges in the Ohio Valley. Discover the evidence of advanced mathematics discovered by the Amorites and how it is evident at Stonehenge and within the earthworks in the Ohio Valley. This is a must read for anyone who wants an affirmation of one of the most mysterious chapters in the Bible.”[21]
In other words, what Zimmerman exposes in his book and talks about in his lectures, built on his own vast and assuring research on the Nephilim subject, is that they migrated to America and to the Ohio Valley area from all parts of the world, and settled down there. Due to this migration, we can assume that there are a lot of Nephilim hybrids in the Ohio Valley area.
Probably, the main reason why the Sirians have the perhaps largest underground base in Ohio is because the Nephilim bloodline moved there. Since the Giants of old are being in liaison with the Ša.AM.i, this could explain why the incoming Sirians have chosen the Lake Erie area as their largest underground base. The Nephilim bloodline is important to the Sirians, even if it wasn’t always that way, and this must also be the reason why Michael was born a Nephilim hybrid. For some reason, Michael needs to be of the Nephilim bloodline in order to perform his task. – Wes Penre
Link To Recent Northern Ohio Lake Erie Anunnaki/Nephilim UFO Activity!
The Iroquois people have inhabited the areas of Ontario and upstate New York for well over 4,000 years.
Technically speaking, “Iroquois” refers to a language rather than a particular tribe. In fact, the IROQUOIS consisted of five tribes prior to European colonization. Their society serves as an outstanding example of political and military organization, complex lifestyle, and an elevated role of women.
Until the 1500s, the five tribes of the Iroquois devoted much energy toward fighting and killing each other. According to ORAL TRADITION, it was about this time that they came to their senses and united into a powerful confederation.
The five tribes designed quite an elaborate political system. This included a bicameral (two-house) legislature, much like the British Parliament and modern U.S. Congress. The representatives, or SACHEMS, from the SENECA and MOHAWK tribes met in one house and those of the ONEIDA and CAYUGA met in the other. The ONONDAGA sachems broke ties and had the power to veto decisions made by the others. There was an unwritten constitution that described these proceedings at least as early as 1590. Such a complex political arrangement was unknown in Europe at that time.
Iroquois Indian are the remnants of the mound Builders who are the Remnants of the Lost Tribes of Israel….
The Nephilim!
The Reality of a new unknown human DNA tracing back Ancient Times can no longer be questioned, it is real folks!
This proves it and is undeniable evidence! True origins of Haplogroup X – In human mitochondrial genetics, Haplogroup X is a human mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) haplogroup, Haplogroup X qA only recently discovered in the late 1990′s. In 1997, a fifth mtDNA haplogroup was identified in Native Americans. This group, called X is present in three percent of living Native Americans. Haplogroup X was not found in Asia, but was found only in Europe and the Middle East where two to four percent of the population carry it. In those areas, the X haplogroup has primarily been found in parts of Spain, Bulgaria, Finland, Italy, and Israel. A few people with the X type have been identified in the Altasians tribe located in extreme southern Siberia in the Gobi Desert area. In addition, the ‘X’ type has now been found in the ancient remains of the Basque people.
The Nephilim In The Ohio Valley! – Anunnaki/Human “Hybrids” in Ancient North American Indian Tribes!
RUSSIAN COSMONAUT DRAWS ALIEN CRAFT HE ENCOUNTERED
“It followed after the changes that occurred in Russia all kinds of things went on sale. The KGB files were sold in their entirety to Yale University, and two U.S. film companies bought the rights to the KGB UFO files. Soviet scientists and cosmonauts also came forward with what they knew. In 1990 Colonel Marina Popovich held a press conference in San Francisco at the Russian Consulate. During the conference she showed amazing photographs of cigar-shaped alien craft in space that were each, fifteen miles long. The photos were taken by a Russian space, probe which mysteriously stopped working, then disappeared completely, shortly after taking the photographs.] For more information on missing space probes see “Star Warsand Satellites” page.
Popovich knows her stuff. Besides being a colonel in the Soviet Armed Forces, she is also the wife of famed cosmonaut Pavel Popovich. Pavel Popovich was head of a Soviet Committee on UFOs.] During half of our orbit. We observed it on the light side, and when we entered the shadow side, it disappeared completely. It was an engineered structure, made from some type of metal, approximately 40 meters long with inner hulls. The object was narrow here and wider here, and inside there were openings. Some places had projections like small wings. The object stayed very close to us. We photographed it, and our photos showed it to be 25 to 29 meters away.” – Cosmonaut Victor Afanasyev commenting on a UFO sighting that occurred while en route to the Solyut 6 space station in April of 1979.Cosmonaut Adanasyev made a drawing of the spaceship he witnessed from aboard the Soviet orbital vessel. (top photo) Victor states, “I think we are not alone, something of extraterrestrial origin has visited Earth.” The alien craft turned toward ours, followed us and flew formation 25 to 29 meters away. We photographed the metallic engineering structure that was around 40 meters long. The film was later confiscated. Sourse: Rense.com and Filer Files NOTE: The above image is a rendering except for the drawing from the Cosmonaut.
Publisher's Note:I came across this article in Google Alerts that introduced us to a new website by offering UFO sightings by actual NASA astronauts. It was published on the Liberty Voice website. Enjoy Dirk
By Lindsey Alexander
All information pertaining to aliens might be well-versed to a select public audience, but for non-believers, the history of NASA Astronauts who have sighted UFOs may come as news. An anonymous site with domain, syti.net, documents several astronauts who have allegedly made claims to have encountered UFOs during their work.
Major Gordon Cooper is said to be one of the first Mercury astronauts and last American to fly in space single-handed. Cooper relayed an important message to tracking station, Muchea, near Perth, Australila. The astronaut reported a sighting of a green-hued glowing object approaching his capsule. The alleged UFO was picked up on his radar, but Cooper was advised not to speak about the sighting. He had attested to seeing a UFO nearly a decade prior to this flight. He was piloting an F-86 Sabrejet over western Germany. Cooper spoke to the United Nations, and on many other accounts, stating astronauts “live in secrecy because the US fears the public’s reaction.”
The green light comes up in a recent CNN report the second day of Jan. 2014. Tom Watkins with CNN reports an elaborate crop circle was found on a farmer’s property in California, just two hours south of San Francisco. Green lights were seen and recorded by an onlooker. Many people speculate between aliens and hoax. However, the crop imprint being circular is similar in description as most UFO reports maintain.
Other NASA astronauts listed on syti.net UFO sightings page include Donald Slayton who was also a Mercury astronaut. He claimed to have seen a UFO during a flight in the P-51 fighter jet, 1951 Minneapolis. The object appeared to him like a kite at first, but the object soon presented itself as a saucer-shaped aircraft. He went after the proclaimed UFO at 300 miles per hours until it vanished.
Major Robert White in 1962 also reported a UFO sighting. White was test flying an X-15 which was also flown by a Joseph A. Walker the same year. Walker was a NASA pilot with the task of actually detecting UFOs. He alleges filming many sightings, though the film was never released.
1973 Apollo 17 commander, Eugene Ceman, states in a Los Angeles Times article, thinking the UFOs were somebody else, from a “different civilization.”
Edward Higgins White (the first American to walk on the moon), and James McDivitt in 1965, are reported to have taken photographs of a metallic UFO with long arms stretching out from the body. One might wonder if these were simply objects from other, more advanced countries. However, more astronauts have been listed to further the claims of extraterrestrial life. James Lovell and Frank Borman reported on base radio from outer space during their 1965, 14-day record-breaking flight, “Bogey at 10 o’clock high!”
1969 Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin report a mysterious experience on the moon. A transcription of what syti.net claims was transmitted:
NASA: What’s there? Mission control calling Apollo 11.
Apollo 11: These “Babies” are huge, Sir! Enormous! Oh my God! You wouldn’t belive it! I’m telling you there are other space craft out there, lined up on the far side of the crater edge! They are on the moon watching us!”
Armstrong claimed there was a base on the moon, and he was warned to stay off the moon by the aliens. He would not go into further details indicating that the CIA was behind the cover up. Maurice Chatelain 1979, former Chief of NASA Communications Systems, confirmed Armstrong did report seeing the UFOs. Chatelain spoke about code name “Santa Claus” which began as a result of Walter Schirra on Mercury 8 who attributed the name to any UFO sighting. James Lovell followed this usage and spoke the words for all the public to hear, “Please be informed that there is a Santa Claus.”
Scott Carpenter, an American astronaut, aquanaut, and test pilot was one of the original astronauts for NASA’s Project Mercury in 1959. He allegedly stated, “At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone. There was a constant surveillance by UFOs.”
The reports on NASA astronauts UFO sightings do not end here. This week of February is the 23rd annual International UFO Conference in Fountain Hills, Arizona. Researchers, a former NASA astrobiologist, and ordinary people looking to share their personal stories will be there. The organizer, Maureen Elsberry, hopes to produce “digestible,” and scientific information to the general public about extraterrestrial life.
On March 25, 1948, a UFO was detected and picked up on their scopes by three separate and strategically located radar units in the southwestern part of the United States. It is theorized that [the beam from one of the radars] had some kind of effect on the central control system of the flying object, for immediately it seemed to go out of control. The following is an in-depth overview of the crash and subsequent recovery of a UFO and sixteen humanoid occupants near Aztec, New Mexico:
THE AZTEC UFO RECOVERY 1948
It was the columnist Frank Scully who first alerted the world to sensational stories of recovered flying saucers and little men in his best-selling book Behind The Flying Saucers — The Truth About The Aztec UFO Crash published in 1950. Scully claimed that up to that time there had been four such recoveries, one of which was alleged to have taken place around Aztec, New Mexico, when sixteen humanoid bodies were recovered together with their undamaged craft. According to Scully’s informants, the disk that landed near Aztec was 99.99 feet in diameter, its exterior made of a light metal resembling aluminum but so durable that no amount of heat (up to 10,000 degrees was applied) or diamond-tipped drill had the slightest effect. The disk apparently incorporated large rings of metal which revolved around a central, stabilized cabin, using an unfamiliar gear ratio. There were no rivets, bolts, screws or signs of welding. Investigators were eventually able to gain entry. Scully was told, because of a fracture in one of the portholes, which they enlarged, revealing a knob inside the cabin which when pushed (with a pole) caused a hidden door to open. Sixteen small humanoids, ranging in height from 36 to 42 inches, were supposedly found dead inside the cabin, their bodies charred to a dark brown color. Scully was told that the craft landed undamaged, having landed under its own guidance. The craft was eventually dismantled, the investigators having discovered that it was manufactured in segments which fitted in grooves and were pinned together around the base. The complete cabin section, measuring 18 feet in diameter was lifted out of the base of the saucer, around which was a gear that fitted a gear on the cabin. These segments, together with the bodies, were then transported to Wright Field (Wright Patterson AFB). Some of the bodies were later dissected and examined by the Air Force, and were found to be similar in all respects to human beings, with the exception of their teeth, which were perfect.
New Supportive Evidence?
According to important information published by William Steinman in 1987 there is a large grain of truth in the Aztec story, and he has managed to acquire some astonishing supportive evidence. Like Scully, he is unwilling to divulge his sources, which inevitably lays him open to charges of fabrication. Steinman discovered that the Aztec disk came to earth on 25 March 1948, having been detected by three separate radar units in the southwest, one of which was said to have disrupted the craft’s control mechanism. The area of impact was calculated by triangulation and this information was immediately relayed to Air Defense Command and Gen. George C. Marshall, then Secretary of State, who allegedly contacted the MJ-12 group as well as the Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit (IPU) of the Army Counterintelligence Directorate. The IPU operated out of Camp Hale, Colorado, at this time, Steinman claims, and its main function was to collect and deliver disabled or crashed disks to certain specified secret locations. The craft was recovered within hours by the IPU scout team about 12 miles northeast of Aztec. General Marshall ordered Air Defense Command to go off alert status, and the radar units were advised that there had been a false alarm. Marshall then gave orders to the commander of the IPU to organize a recovery team and contacted Dr. Vannevar Bush – the. head of MJ-12 to gather together a team of scientists to accompany the IPU to the crash site. Steinman has named these scientists as follows:
Dr.Lloyd Berkner Dr. Detlev Bronk Dr. Carl A. Heiland Dr. Jerome Hunsaker Dr. John von Neumann Dr. Robert J. Oppenheimer Dr. Merle A. Tuve Dr. Horace B. van Vandenberg
Four of these scientists, it will be noted, were members of the original MJ-12 panel set up in September 1947. Dr. Carl A. Heiland was a geophysicist and magnetic sciences expert who was the head of the Colorado School of Mines, and according to Steinman leaked details of the recovery to one of Scully’s sources, Leo GeBauer. Dr. Horace B. van Vandenberg was an inorganic chemist associated with the University of Colorado. Dr. Merle A. Tuve worked for the Office of Scientific Research and Development during World War II, and is chiefly remembered as a geophysicist for his techniques of radio wave propagation of the upper atmosphere. Dr. Robert J. Oppenheimer distinguished himself primarily as leader of the Los Alamos atomic bomb project , commanding the allegiance of the world’s top physicists. He was the Director of the Institute of Advanced Studies at Princeton from 1947 and became Chairman of the General Advisory Committee of the Atomic Energy Commission. Dr. John von Neumann, the famous Hungarian born mathematician, became a consultant on the atomic bomb (Manhatten Project) in 1943. His main area of expertise lay in the design and development of computers. The scientists, according to Steinman, were told by Dr. Bush to assemble at Durango Airfield, Colorado, 35 miles to the north of Aztec, with the minimum delay. All those involved in the recovery were sworn to an above top secret oath.
The IPU convoy used a route to the site that avoided main roads, and on arrival road blocks were set up at strategic points within two miles of the recovery area. The owner of a ranch and his family were allegedly held incommunicado and told never to discuss the matter (cf. The Roswell incident). Equipment hauling trucks were camouflaged to look like oil drilling rigs during the operation.
A cabin window in the dome of the craft was broken out and a pole thrust through which tripped a release and an access port opened. Dead occupants inside were found slumped over elaborate control panels. (artist: Chan Johnson; source: Steinman/Stevens)
Inside the Craft
A team of scientists arrived at the site a little later than the IPU team and began dissecting the disk. According to Steinman, they entered the craft one by one, entry having been gained via a fractured porthole as described in Scully’s account. The portholes themselves looked metallic and only appeared translucent on close inspection. Inside the craft they found two humanoids, about two feet in height, slumped over an instrument panel charred deep brown. Another 12 bodies lay sprawled on the floor in chamber within the cabin, making a total of 14 bodies (not 16 as Scully had been told).
An instrument panel supposedly had several pushbuttons and levers with hieroglyphic-type symbols, as well as symbols illuminated on small display screens. Bush and von Neumann discovered that the control panel had drawers which rolled out, but no wiring could be detected. A book composed of parchment-like leaves with the texture of plastic also contained the strange hieroglyphs – similar to Sanskrit, Oppenheimer thought. This was given to General Marshall, who then passed it on to two leading cryptological experts for analysis, William F. Friedman and Lambros C. Callihamos (who both later led distinguished careers in the National Security Agency).
Dr. Bronk, a physiologist and biophysicist, examined the bodies and asked Bush to get hold of cryogenic equipment with which to preserve them. Cryogenics specialist Dr. Paul A. Scherer, a colleague of Bush’s, was contacted and advised Bush to obtain some dry ice. Meanwhile, another small group of scientists and military personnel examined the craft and were eventually able to dismantle it when several interlocking key devices were found which opened up seams at specific points.
Three days later the segments were loaded onto three trucks, together with the bodies, and transported with a tarpaulin marked “Explosives”. The convoy headed at night by the least conspicuous and often most laborious route to the restricted Naval Auxiliary Airfield Complex at Los Alamos, arriving one week later. Here they remained for over a year, Steinman claims, before being transported to another base.
Left: Artist’s impression of the small bodies found aboard the downed craft, based on eyewitnesses’ descriptions relayed through intermediary contacts. (artist: Chan Johnson) Right: Line drawing of the 100′ diameter disc-shaped craft. (source: Steinman/Stevens)
The Bodies
Dr. Paul A. Scherer eventually obtained special preservation containers for the least damaged bodies, Steinman relates. One of the companies which supplied equipment was the Air Research Corporation, of which Scherer was Director of Research and Development; it supplied the liquid nitrogen pump, circulation system and refrigeration units. Other specimens were given a complete autopsy, by a team headed by Dr. Bronk, of biophysicists, histochemists and pathologists. The results were put in a report, part of which, Steinman claims, appeared in the “Air Force Project Sign (Grudge) Report No. 13″ which has never been released.
According to the report, the bodies were described as averaging 42 inches in length. The facial features strongly resembled “mongoloid Orientals” in appearance, with disproportionately large heads, large “slant” eyes, small noses and mouths. The average weight was about 40 pounds. The torsos were very small and thin, with very thin necks. The arms were long and slender, reaching the knees, with hands containing long and slender fingers with webbing between them. There was no digestive or gastrointestinal tract, no alimentary or intestinal canal, and no rectal point. No reproductive organs were apparent. Instead of blood there was a colorless liquid with no red cells which smelled similar to ozone. – UFO Crash at Aztec: A Well Kept Secret
Veteran researcher Leonard Stringfield, a former Air Force intelligence officer who is the world’s leading specialist on what he calls “Retrievals of the Third Kind,” shares my misgivings about some of the material in Steinman’s book, but we are both impressed with his extensive research into the Aztec case. Stringfield has uncovered further evidence himself. Captain V. A. Postlethwait, who was on detached service with Army G-2 (Intelligence) in 1948, told Stringfield that he was cleared to see a top secret cable describing the crash of a saucer-shaped craft 100 feet in diameter and 30 feet high, with one porthole broken, causing suffocation to the five occupants – who had turned blue as a result. The bodies were about four feet tall with relatively large heads, Postlethwait recollects. The metallic skin of the saucer was too tough to penetrate, although as thin as newspaper. The incident was said to have occurred near White Sands, New Mexico. Aside from a few discrepancies there are some significant parallels with the Aztec case. Postlethwait revealed to Stringfield, for example, that private property was purchased to facilitate transporting the craft.
Leonard Stringfield has also spoken with Dr. Robert Spencer Carr, a retired University of South Florida professor who claims to have testimonial evidence from five sources, including a nurse and a high-ranking Air Force officer who participated in the recovery of a crashed UFO and occupants in 1948 – presumed to be the one at Aztec (although there was another alleged recovery that year, just across the Mexican border near Laredo, Texas). In 1982 Stringfield asked Carr to disclose the name of his principal source, “on the premise that our ages give us little time tolerance in our search for truth.”
“When Professor Carr named his source,” says Stringfield, “I sat back dumbfounded. I knew his name well in research, and recalled some of his comments on UFOs while he served as an Air Force officer. . . . “Please, Len,” pleaded Carr, “keep the name to yourself; please spare me any trouble as long as I live . . . My key witness participated in the 1948 retrieval and saw alien bodies on location.”
According to Bill Steinman, two of Carr’s sources were aeronautical engineers who provided important information regarding the saucer’s construction and propulsion. A source now named is Arthur Bray (not to be confused with the Canadian researcher), a security guard involved with the recovery project. Carr also interviewed a woman whose father was present during the recovery. Information pertaining to the flying saucers must be suppressed, he told his daughter. “If news of this vehicle’s water-driven engine got out to the whole scientific community, that would be the end of the oil industry.” The comment is of course pure hearsay, but if there is any truth in it a further possible reason for the cover-up is brought to light.
At the still fenced-off crash site on a plateau twelve miles northeast of Aztec, Bill Steinman has uncovered charred and scraped-off rocks of various sizes as well as some metal bracing struts that might possibly have been used for supporting the craft. On one of his visits to the area he was shadowed by two unmarked helicopters.
As for George Bowra’s claim that no one in Aztec, could recall the incident, Steinman has traced at least four people who knew where the crash site was located, one of whom, “V.A.,” recalls that sometime between 1948 and 1950 a huge disk-shaped flying object with a dome on top skimmed about 100 feet above the ground not far from him. The witness pointed out to Steinman a cliff jutting above the Animas River.
“That thing, or flying saucer, tried hard to clear that cliff, but it hit the very corner up there, shooting sparks and rocks in every direction,” he claims. “Finally, it made a right-angle turn in midair and headed straight north in the direction of the alleged crash site at Hart Canyon. That’s the last I saw of it. I ran into the house andcalled the military in Albuquerque. I never heard from them about it.”
Steinman first became interested in UFOs in 1981 when he read Frank Scully’s book, and has since devoted much of his time and resources on the Aztec case and the other recoveries associated with Scully’s claims, often in the face of discouraging odds. Steinman’s job in quality assurance and analysis in the aerospace industry has aided him in probing the complex and intricate leads that he has pursued.
Writing in the foreword to Steinman’s book, UFO Crash at Aztec, Leonard Stringfield explains how, like many others, he was led to believe the Scully story was a hoax, his disbelief long being conditioned by a succession of ufologists who for years claimed that Scully “was duped by a scheming Silas Newton and his cohort, Leo Gebauer.” But now, thanks to Bill Steinman’s painstaking research (as well as some of his own leads), he has been obliged to reevaluate the evidence. – aztecufo.com / ufoevidence.org
Artist’s impression of the craft on the ground. Dr. Vannevar Bush, team leader, and Dr. Jerome Hunsaker, Aeronautical Engineer at MIT. (artist: Chan Johnson; source: Steinman/Stevens)
Dr. Frank Thayer (Professor of Journalism and Mass Communications at New Mexico State University) joins the research team:
The Ramsey research team discovered a remarkable cache of documents in an archive largely ignored over the years. After flying across country from North Carolina, Scott opened a trove of information and Dr. Frank Thayer hundreds of pages from the Frank Scully archives at the University of Wyoming. Eventually Thayer became a co-author of the book.
Though Scott and Suzanne Ramsey’s book was not published until 2012, the research was intense and ongoing, even after Thayer joined the team. It was Suzanne who coined the phrase that appears on the back cover of the book, stating that Aztec was an incident that goes from “hoax to history” as a result of The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Hart Canyon.
Supposedly, Aztec always lacked witnesses. Well, Steinman unlocked the door to discovering witnesses and the Ramseys pushed the door open, discovering those who were on Hart Canyon mesa March 25, 1948. The first-person accounts in the Ramsey book are startling and clear. Young oilfield workers were there. They climbed up on the 100-foot disc and peered into the portholes before the military arrived.
What’s more, independent accounts and memories are surprisingly consistent with each other. When two separate witnesses describe in high detail the same event in almost identical ways 50+ years later, the likelihood of coincidence is almost zero. So, Scully was right in 1950, but his story was vilified, suppressed, and discredited until his total vindication in 2012.
When Frank Scully published his book Behind The Flying Saucers — The Truth About The Aztec UFO Crash in 1950, the scientists who fed him information firmly believed that the U.S. Government would be releasing the truth within a few months. It was only later learned that flying saucers were the most closely kept secret in the U.S. Government. In the words of a Canadian government official, the secret was “higher than the H-bomb.”
Some peculiar things happened in the decades after the flying saucer landing. First, all those who were on the mesa in March 1948 were debriefed by the military and sworn to secrecy. Second, however unlikely that it may seem, everyone who was there that day prospered beyond the law of averages. Also, it was only when they were facing their own mortality that the witnesses told their stories.
There was a reason for the governmental cover up in 1948, given the real threat of international communism, but the world has changed a great deal since then. The idea that mass acceptance of visitors from another world would result in crumbling the foundations of the civilized world may have been true when it was still believed that humans were the pinnacle of life in the cosmos, but it is not true today. – FrankThayer.net / Daily Times – Farmington, NM
I was visiting NY all Winter 2006 but before I had the opportunity to visit a friend in Orlando. The house where I was doing some work in exchange of the mini apartment upper the garage was big and cold, I have some pics of the place I can send you later. It was one night during a painful menstrual period that didn’t allow me to sleep, I feel very sad because it happened that I was thinking of my daughter, at that time I felt I wanted to come back to Peru because I didn’t like the snow and the cold weather, so at around 2:20am I saw a potent illumination outside the window but it was so bright that look white, the trees look white but actually that intense light kind of move the leaves as if there was some wind some sort. At that point the first thing I wanted to do is see what was going on because it was winter in a wooded area where you can even see the moon, and the window blinds were shut in between just in case I can have some light because I am not used to sleep with not lights, I always keep the bathroom light on. Well, when I noticed this was not just an illumination but there were two balls or spheres kind of white and glowing with some blue moving from left to right from the point I was seeing them, I could hear a sound that I cannot express but it was not metallic sound, it was very soft like when you use your breath to clean your glasses, something like that, I don’t have the name in English.
Then one ball follow the other up and left and after that the blinds opened one by one as if two fingers where opening to see me, and I realized I couldn’t move at all or scream. When I saw something like a vapor coming thought the close window that terrified me and noticed a formation of a woman with big eyes in front of me but I had no choice to refuse to look, otherwise I would have been taken, so the only thing I did was tell this being I do not want to go and that I couldn’t have children any more because I had three miscarriages before and for some reason I don’t understand is that I supposed they wanted something from me. Do not remember more up to the point the balls disappeared in front of my eyes like when you turn off the lighter or flash light. I recovered movement after that and next day was still frightened and for several weeks after I couldn’t sleep thinking they were coming back. Since that happened, I have seen UFOs flying close as if they show to me and it happened last Summer by the Mohawk River, the UFO got in a cloud then went out again, and when I was waiting to see it again it didn’t come out again but it looks they play or know I am watching. The other UFO flew like a bird from side to side and the top was silver like color and the bottom black and flew faster than an airplane and was 6:30pm on a cloudy Summer day. When I look up the sky I saw them all the time because I observe the stars specially during Summer, but my husband do not believe it and even seeing it think that the stars can fly, hahaha. I was thinking about a regression to corroborate they didn’t do anything against my will. There is another thing I can share with you is that when I was a little girl I was kind of indigo child, very intuitive and I can remember a lot of things since I was a baby and the things I saw. When I was 9 years old I had a car accident and I was sent back because you don’t recover from that type of accident, so everybody thought I was dead, but when I woke up myself everybody were scare of me and didn’t want to touch me, that happened years ago, now I am 47. You tell me what you think, what kind of beings are these? have you heard about these encounters? NOTE: The above images are renderings.
Yes, it's true that NSA and CIA have secretly turned America recently, into East Berlin, while no one was watching.
We in America must no longer trust public officials to do the 'right thing'.
Snowden's portrait adorns Mount Rushmore, in his fool's rush defense of freedom, for Democracy cannot be amended and protected unless there is 'reporting', and when officials violate the Constitution, blatantly, it's all secret, so there's no 'reporting'.
It's 'reporting' that protects democracies.
That's what Snowden did; he saved America from KGB-like hands.
These covert NSA and CIA activities, at home in the U.S.A., are precisely why we hated the Russians during the cold way, for the evil surreptitious things that it did to its own citizens.
But, sometimes, Big Brother is just family, especially when it comes to UFOs.
Aliens have always been here and are as native and terrestrial to our planet as are thunderstorms; they are the game wardens of this preserve that we call 'Earth' and like good game wardens, they do not let the creatures within suspect that it is indeed, a preserve.
Alien greys are subservient to a Mothman race, sentient, highly technological reptilian overlords, monitor- lizard-men, who use the same dimension and portals that ghosts and demons use, to enter and exit our 'reality' dimension.
Many in the UFO community echo other indigestible gleaned truths concerning us and thesebeings:
Human young are a preferred diet, as we never were the 'top of the food-chain'.
Suddenly these beings' silhouettes emerge: a reptilian masquerade of an ancient reptilian Mayans' 'God', a God who organized a 'religion' that provided him a delicacy he most desired, that of a still-beating human heart.
How is one to grasp UFO nightmarish truth? What would the average Joe, walking around the street, say about this truth, if revealed?
Isn't our government's attitude of denial concerning UFOs suddenly seen as more-than-kind, paternally loving, to seek to protect and shield a barely civilized public from the ontological shock, likely to shatter society?
What's another indigestible UFO/alien E.T. realization gleaned by government and abductees?
We are time/space woven, 'held' and cocooned, within a reptilian computerized time matrix, a contrived-'loop'- dimension, elusive and revealing, far from the Universes' objective "reality".
Those in power, in "OZ", who know, must for all sanity's sake, "Pay no attention to the Reptilians, behind the curtains!"
Is it your imagination to notice unseen portals and traffic, but now take pause, when 'reality', a synthetic computer program, pixilates, for a moment?
If there were no alien/UFO secrets, why are so many agencies responsible for quashing suspicions?
Knowing full well that disclosure of UFO/alien realities would cause religious and social societal disintegration, our government has thoughtfully and parentally organized covert agencies of disinformation to sustain the fabric of societal equilibrium; I herein list only a few:
-The DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY (DIA) – Coordinates the intelligence data gathered from the various Armed Services intelligence branches (Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Coast Guard and Special Forces), and provides counter-threat measures, which include providing security at ultra-classified installations by the deployment of U.S. "Thought Police," who conduct surveillance, by scientific remote viewing [SRV] and other para-psychological measures, against penetrations and scanning by foreign or civilian remote viewers [clairvoyants/out-of-body seers], at the Pentagon, VA, Fort Meade, MD, and the entire astral plane.
-The NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY (NSA) – Monitors and screens all telephone, telegraph, computer modem, radio, television, cellular, microwave, and satellite communications, and electromagnetic fields "of interest" around the world, and orchestrates information-control and cover-up activities related to UFO secrecy and surveillance of extra-terrestrial operations, Fort Meade, MD.
-The NATIONAL RECONNAISSANCE OFFICE (NRO) – Controls and collects information from global spy satellites, monitors UFO traffic entering and leaving Earth's atmosphere, coordinates firing of energy beam weapons from orbiting Star Wars satellites at selected human ground and airborne targets and selectively at extra-terrestrial craft, Pentagon basement and Dulles Airport area, VA.
-The NATIONAL RECONNAISSANCE ORGANIZATION (NRO) (aka MJ-TF) – The military/intelligence operations arm of the PI-40 Subcommittee, conducts surveillance, interdiction, capture and confiscation of UFOs and their extra-terrestrial occupants for intelligence and "International Security" purposes; surveilles and "interacts" with close encounter experiencers, including occasional physically and sexually assault mind-control kidnappings disguised as "Alien abductions" for psychological warfare and dis-informational purposes, (headquarters unknown), highly compartmented and dispersed among various elite Delta Force Special Operations units, such as the USAF Blue Light at Hurlburt Field, Mary Esther, FL and Beale Air Force Base, Marysville, CA.
-The CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY (CIA) – Commands, often controls and sometimes coordinates the gathering of secret overseas information gathered by spies (HUMINT), electronic surveillance (SIGINT), and other means; carries out covert unconstitutional paramilitary counterinsurgency operations and preemptive political pacification projects in violation of international law, as well as counter-intelligence sting operations against foreign agents; engages in domestic surveillance, and manipulation of the U.S. political process, "in the National interest" in direct violation of its congressional charter; operates proprietary "false front" companies for profit; conducts a major share of international trans-shipment of illegal drugs, using National Security cover and immunity; and cooperates with NSA's UFO cover-up operations, Langley, VA, and worldwide branches.
-The FEDERAL BUREAU of INVESTIGATION: Counter Intelligence Division – The branch which investigates, conducts surveillance and neutralizes foreign Intelligence agents operating within the U.S., and cooperates with the National Reconnaissance Organization in the surveillance of those involved in close encounters with UFOs and extra-terrestrials [EBEs].
-The DEPARTMENT of ENERGY (DOE-INTEL) – Conducts internal security checks and external security threat countermeasures, often through its contract civilian instrumentality, the Wackenhut Corporation.
-NSA's CENTRAL SECURITY SERVICE and The CIA's SPECIAL SECURITY OFFICE– The USG's version of &q quot;Internal Affairs" which respectively spy on the spies, and conduct special operations which cannot be entrusted to line intelligence officers, Ft. Meade, MD and Langley, VA.
-U.S. ARMY INTELLIGENCE and SECURITY COMMAND (INSCOM) – Their assignments include psychological and psychotronic warfare (PSYOPS), para-psychological intelligence (PSYINT), and electromagnetic intelligence (ELMINT), Ft. Meade, MD.
-U.S. NAVY OFFICE of NAVAL INTELLIGENCE (ONI) – Gathers intelligence affecting naval operations, and has a compartmented unit involved in UFO and USO [Unidentified Submerged Objects] information gathering.
-U.S. AIR FORCE OFFICE of SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS [AFOSI] – Gathers intelligence affecting aerospace operations, and has a compartmented unit involved in investigating UFO sightings, extra-terrestrial contact reports, as well as IAC [Identified Alien Craft] surveillance, and coordination with NRO interdiction operations, Bolling Air Force Base, MD.
-NASA INTELLIGENCE– Gathers intelligence data relating to space flights, sabotage threats, astronaut and reconnaissance satellite encounters with UFOs and ETs, and coordinates the transfer of alien technology to U.S. and allies' aerospace operations.
-AIR FORCE SPECIAL SECURITY POLICE – Is an NSA/USAF joint intelligence operations unit dealing with possible threats to aerospace operations from foreign powers, terrestrial or otherwise.
-DEFENSE INDUSTRY SECURITY COMMAND (DISCO) – Conducts intelligence operations within and on behalf of the civilian defense contractor corporations engaged in classified research, development, and production.
-DEFENSE INVESTIGATIVE SERVICE (DIS) – Conducts investigations into people and situations deemed a possible threat to any operation of the Department of Defense.
-The NAVAL INVESTIGATIVE SERVICE (NIS) – Conducts investigations against threats to Naval operations.
-AIR FORCE ELECTRONIC SECURITY COMMAND– Conducts surveillance and interdiction of threats to the security of Air Force electronic transmissions and telemetry, and to the integrity of electronic countermeasure (ECM) warfare equipment.
-DRUG ENFORCEMENT AGENCY (DEA) Intelligence– Conducts surveillance and interdiction of drug smuggling operations, unless exempted under "National Security" waivers.
-FEDERAL POLICE AGENCY INTELLIGENCE – Coordinates intelligence relating to threats against federal property and personnel.
-DEFENSE ELECTRONIC SECURITY COMMAND– Coordinates intelligence surveillance and countermeasures against threats to the integrity of military electronic equipment and electronic battlefield operations), Fort Worth, TX.
-"Project DEEP WATER" – The ongoing effects of the compromised personnel, sources and methods resulting from the secret importation of Hitler's own Nazi Intelligence chief, Gen. Reinhard Gehlen, to redesign the U.S.'s Intelligence apparatus.
-"Project PAPERCLIP" – The ongoing results of the secret importation of Nazi weapons and aerospace/UFO scientists into U.S. secret military research and development bases.
It's clear that UFO/alien realities must be covered up in the name of National Security, a suddenly undisclosed oxymoron.
And I agree.
Alien presences on Earth, their motives and tactics, should not ever be disclosed by world governments.
Aren't the peoples of the World entitled to know, and aren't we all smart enough, to grasp, adapt after such a disclosure? Never; think of the ontological shock.
The full truth is awful and would cripple society's fabric.
Could nations EVER embrace that they are mere cattle to our "space brothers"
not seen, as we see ourselves, as divine beings, but as someone else's valuable property?
That our existence and presence on Earth wasn't at all Biblically ever 'ordained', by God?
With such disclosure, we would have to face a horrid past, and a likely equally wretched future.
I have an metaphorical illustrative tadpole frog story, that teaches the dangers of having a cultivated closed, unimaginative mind, opened too quickly:
What's the real danger from alien disclosure?
Twice upon a time (maybe, even, thrice, upon a time), a tadpole frog who lived by the side of a vast blue-green ocean visited his distant tadpole frog cousin who lived very far away in a deep, small well in a very dark cave.
"Isn't my world amazing ?
Isn't it wonderful and complex and totally beautiful?!", said the cousin tadpole frog who lived in the cave in the dark deep well.
And the close relative tadpole frog who lived by the side of a vast blue-green ocean said;"One day, my cousin, you must come and visit with me and see where I live and visit my home!"
So it came to pass, that his cousin, one day, packed his suitcase and left his small well in the dark cave and traveled far to visit his cousin tadpole frog who lived by the blue-green ocean.
And when the cousin from the small cave got there, he saw his tadpole frog cousin's house on the beach and he viewed the unlimited expanse and spectacular majesty of the shore and the blue-green ocean, and his head exploded and he died.
The essential frog ontological shock that the "image we were created in" wasn't divine, but alien,
would make people's heads explode.
BIO:
Abductions and their remnant elusive memories have opened all this for Paul, a confirmed atheist, UNTIL Paul saw aliens float him out of his body, in his bed, at night.
Then, he knew that they were interested in an essence that he never suspected that he had, a nonphysical soul.
Our spiritual powers that interest and addict interdimensionals are the very powers that can be used to thwart further attacks.
They infect auras with attachments to themselves and ride the reincarnation roller coaster with human beings, as a sanctuary, to avoid the death that they fear and to steal the spiritual recycling that we have.
Souls are garnered, detoured from our natural spiritual evolution in Heaven.
These joyriding grays can be sinister, discorporate alien souls, stuck to our energies, who bring a new meaning to the concept of a silent invasion.
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Ik ben Pieter, en gebruik soms ook wel de schuilnaam Peter2011.
Ik ben een man en woon in Linter (België) en mijn beroep is Ik ben op rust..
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