Dit is ons nieuw hondje Kira, een kruising van een waterhond en een Podenko. Ze is sinds 7 februari 2024 bij ons en druk bezig ons hart te veroveren. Het is een lief, aanhankelijk hondje, dat zich op een week snel aan ons heeft aangepast. Ze is heel vinnig en nieuwsgierig, een heel ander hondje dan Noleke.
This is our new dog Kira, a cross between a water dog and a Podenko. She has been with us since February 7, 2024 and is busy winning our hearts. She is a sweet, affectionate dog who quickly adapted to us within a week. She is very quick and curious, a very different dog than Noleke.
DEAR VISITOR,
MY BLOG EXISTS NEARLY 13 YEARS AND 4 MONTH.
ON /30/09/2024 MORE THAN 2.230.520
VISITORS FROM 135 DIFFERENT NATIONS ALREADY FOUND THEIR WAY TO MY BLOG.
THAT IS AN AVERAGE OF 400GUESTS PER DAY.
THANK YOU FOR VISITING MY BLOG AND HOPE YOU ENJOY EACH TIME.
The purpose of this blog is the creation of an open, international, independent and free forum, where every UFO-researcher can publish the results of his/her research. The languagues, used for this blog, are Dutch, English and French.You can find the articles of a collegue by selecting his category. Each author stays resposable for the continue of his articles. As blogmaster I have the right to refuse an addition or an article, when it attacks other collegues or UFO-groupes.
Druk op onderstaande knop om te reageren in mijn forum
Zoeken in blog
Deze blog is opgedragen aan mijn overleden echtgenote Lucienne.
In 2012 verloor ze haar moedige strijd tegen kanker!
In 2011 startte ik deze blog, omdat ik niet mocht stoppen met mijn UFO-onderzoek.
BEDANKT!!!
Een interessant adres?
UFO'S of UAP'S, ASTRONOMIE, RUIMTEVAART, ARCHEOLOGIE, OUDHEIDKUNDE, SF-SNUFJES EN ANDERE ESOTERISCHE WETENSCHAPPEN - DE ALLERLAATSTE NIEUWTJES
UFO's of UAP'S in België en de rest van de wereld In België had je vooral BUFON of het Belgisch UFO-Netwerk, dat zich met UFO's bezighoudt. BEZOEK DUS ZEKER VOOR ALLE OBJECTIEVE INFORMATIE , enkel nog beschikbaar via Facebook en deze blog.
Verder heb je ook het Belgisch-Ufo-meldpunt en Caelestia, die prachtig, doch ZEER kritisch werk leveren, ja soms zelfs héél sceptisch...
Voor Nederland kan je de mooie site www.ufowijzer.nl bezoeken van Paul Harmans. Een mooie site met veel informatie en artikels.
MUFON of het Mutual UFO Network Inc is een Amerikaanse UFO-vereniging met afdelingen in alle USA-staten en diverse landen.
MUFON's mission is the analytical and scientific investigation of the UFO- Phenomenon for the benefit of humanity...
Je kan ook hun site bekijken onder www.mufon.com.
Ze geven een maandelijks tijdschrift uit, namelijk The MUFON UFO-Journal.
Since 02/01/2020 is Pieter ex-president (=voorzitter) of BUFON, but also ex-National Director MUFON / Flanders and the Netherlands. We work together with the French MUFON Reseau MUFON/EUROP.
ER IS EEN NIEUWE GROEPERING DIE ZICH BUFON NOEMT, MAAR DIE HEBBEN NIETS MET ONZE GROEP TE MAKEN. DEZE COLLEGA'S GEBRUIKEN DE NAAM BUFON VOOR HUN SITE... Ik wens hen veel succes met de verdere uitbouw van hun groep. Zij kunnen de naam BUFON wel geregistreerd hebben, maar het rijke verleden van BUFON kunnen ze niet wegnemen...
A chat with Nick Pope, XCOMs real-life UFO
investigator (interview)
Sebastian Haley/GamesBeat
Nick Pope was an UFO investigator for the British
for 21 years. He now serves as a consultant for all kinds of alien-related
entertainment projects, including the new The Bureau: XCOM Declassified game.
July 17, 2013 10:00 AM
Depending on your disposition to the idea of a real-life X-Files
program, the name Nick Pope may have one of a variety of effects on you. Pope
has long been a staple of the ufology scene thanks to his role as a UFO
investigator during the 21 years he worked for the the United Kingdoms Ministry
of Defense. Naturally, hes now involved in the new XCOM game.
GamesBeat met with Pope at a private The Bureau: XCOM Declassified event held
by developer 2K Marin and publisher 2K Games. You can read our thoughts on the
game itself, along with developer interviews, in our hands-on
preview.
GamesBeat: Can you start off with the general overview of your
responsibilities as a UFO investigator?
Nick Pope: I had to basically investigate UFO sightings and
see if they were any potential threat or, more generally, if they were of any
defense interest. We didnt take a view on what they might or might not be. We
just said, Look, people have seen things. Particularly, as its often alleged,
these were solid-structured things in our airspace. That made it a defense
issue. That made it a national security issue.
But like I say, we didnt take a view on whether we were dealing with aliens
or whether we were dealing, as was the original thinking, with maybe the next
generation of Soviet spy planes or drones, something like that. That was
basically the job. Through that, anything else weird or wonderful that there
wasnt a place for in government kind of came our way by default, particularly
if it was perceived that there was a link with UFOs. Alien abductions, crop
circles. We found ourselves getting all the weird stuff, like people who had
seen ghosts at military bases. Thats why it has been called the real-life
X-Files.
GamesBeat: What do you do now?
Pope: Basically, I work as a freelance writer and
broadcaster. Ive written a couple of sci-fi books. I do a lot of TV work on
shows like Ancient Aliens. Ive worked with some of the Hollywood film
companies on some of the PR for movie launches, if theres an alien theme. I
guess people come to me and say, Well, were doing this as fiction, but theres
very often an interesting tie-in. Is any of this actually true?
The alien threat from The Bureau: XCOM
Declassified.
GamesBeat: Some of your findings over the past couple of decades have
been declassified recently, is that correct?
Pope: Yeah, almost literally just two weeks ago, three weeks
ago. The British government finished what had been a five-year program to
declassify and release the entire archive. That was round about 52,000 pages of
documents. A lot of it was just fire lanterns and weather balloons and things
like that. But there were some more interesting cases in there too.
GamesBeat: Can you share some of the highlights?
Pope: Sure. The most famous case in there and I think its
a better case than Roswell is something called the Rendelsham Forest
incident.
This was December 1980. A UFO was actually seen to land in a forest between
two military bases. This was in the U.K., but they were American Air Force
bases. This small triangular craft of some sort came down in a small clearing,
and a patrol of security police, who had originally thought a plane had crashed,
went out and encountered this weird thing. They saw strange symbols on the side
of it that looked a bit like Egyptian hieroglyphs. Then it rose up above the
ground very slowly, cleared the treetops, and shot away to the horizon in an
instant. Two days later it came back. It didnt land that time, but it was
flying around in the area.
The witnesses included the deputy base commander. They went back to the
clearing where this thing had landed on the first night and they found
indentations, showing that something heavy had been there. They took a Geiger
counter out there and found that the radiation levels seemed to be significantly
higher than background. Its a phenomenal story. Some of the guys now have
health issues. Theres talk of a federal lawsuit.
Theres a whole bunch of former congresspeople that just wrote, at the
beginning of May, a letter to the secretary of the Veterans Affairs department
and to the president saying, The two guys who got close to this cant get their
medical records out of the system. Please help them. Its a really good case,
because its not just anecdotal. Like you said in your question, there is a
declassified and released audit trail of government documents to show that this
happened.
GamesBeat: Its interesting that you worked on not only your own
fiction but also Hollywood and now games. Do you feel like the surplus of
fiction surrounding this topic colors peoples opinion as to whether something
like this could ever be real?
Pope: Theres a whole bunch of conspiracy theories about
this. Science fiction and the whole idea of aliens, in movies and computer
games, is so embedded now in the public consciousness that its difficult to
separate the fact and the fiction. Some people think that Hollywood movies and
computer games are one of the ways in which governments slowly acclimatize
people to this. There used to be this old theory that you couldnt say this was
real, because there would be panic in the streets.
But what if you slipped it out generally, slowly, over the years, in all
these movies, so that people were so used to the idea? I think the opinion polls
now show that round about 50 percent of people think theres visitation by
aliens. A much higher percentage believes that theres life out there in the
universe, but around 50 percent, I think, think theyre coming here. A sizable
number of those people think that governments know more about it than theyre
letting on. I dont know. Its odd, because if that was the case, its a
slightly mixed message. You get good aliens like E.T. and then you get
the whole Independence Day, War of the Worlds, XCOM thing,
which is more about full-on violence and invasion.
I suppose its a point about films more generally, that its more likely that
movies and computer games will show aliens hostile, because it gives you that
whole dynamic of a struggle to deal with. With a movie like E.T., its
just getting home, and thats it.
GamesBeat: And feed him Reeses Pieces. So what has been your
contribution to the XCOM project?
Pope: Its basically just helping, maybe, to start a
conversation with the people that play the game, to ask the sort of questions
that were getting to. Could any of this be based in reality? Did something
like Roswell, for example, really happen? And if it did, questions like, Would
the government keep it secret? and Could you keep a thing like this a secret?
Which I think are two different questions. I think, on the first answer, its
probably, Yes, you would keep it secret.
I think technology acquisition gets to the heart of it. Hopefully this is the
sort of thing that I can contribute to a conversation about this. The country
or corporation, maybe that first gets its hands on alien technology, if such a
thing exists, is going to have such a huge advantage that the stakes are high
enough to justify secrecy. Youd want it for yourself. So, going back in time,
if Roswell really happened, you could understand that some overenthusiastic base
PR person said, Oh, weve got one of these flying disks, and then high command
stepped in and said, No, its a weather balloon and took it away to hangar and
worked on that.
You wouldnt want to share that with the Soviets, particularly with the Cold
War just starting.
Whats your alien apocalypse survival
plan?
GamesBeat: What do you think of the game so far?
Pope: Oh, I love it. Im not just saying that. I meanI
guess I was brought up, maybe, in an era where games were just a few pixels
moving clumsily across the screen. I cant even remember what they were called.
What was that one where you just bounced it around?
GamesBeat: Pong?
Pope: Pong! Im probably showing my age there. But you look
at something like The Bureau, and its just, My God. The other thing is, I
love that whole style of the 60s, whether its the cars or the shops, the
signs. Its got a nice feel to it as well. Like I say, I dont play these games,
so I cant, Im afraid, give any sort of technical-insight clever answer to
that. But Ive obviously sat in on some meetings; Ive looked at it, and Ive
thought, Wow, thats impressive.
GamesBeat: In all your decades of work that youve done and your
hypothesizing and discussion and so on, if you turned on the news and saw that
aliens were arriving lights in the sky and that kind of stuff would you be
excited, or would you be worried?
Pope: Both. Id see it as almost a validation or a
culmination of a quest that I guess Ive been on. But alsoI guess,
self-evidently, if aliens get here, given that we can only just about slowly
send a few space probes out to the edge of our solar system, if somebody has
cracked viable interstellar travel, theyve got technology orders of magnitude
above and beyond anything weve got. So I couldnt help but be worried.
I think Stephen Hawking said this it would be like the European explorers
meeting the Native Americans, only were the Native Americans. Wed have to hope
that alien visitors are explorers, ambassadors, adventurers, and not the sort of
cynical exploiters that, sadly, in human history weve tended to be when we
encounter new territories. So were going to have to hope that theyre friendly
and altruistic, because if theyre not, were in trouble.
GamesBeat: We can hope that it doesnt come back on us, all the
terrible things that weve done to other civilizations.
Pope: Yes. It would be a kind of cosmic karma, I suppose, if
it did. Our only hope would be that great staple of sci-fi, to use the aliens
own technology against them.
GamesBeat: Or water and air, in the case of Signs and
War of the Worlds.
Pope: [Laughs] Yeah, or Independence Day:
Just plug your laptop in and take down the entire alien defense system.
GamesBeat: I think the secret is just to have Randy Quaid on speed dial
and to keep his crop-duster fueled.
When it comes to UFO reports, people often witness helicopters in close
proximity to unidentified flying objects. While there are several examples of
this, none are more well-known than the Cash-Landrum
incident. The sighting occurred on December 29, 1980 and is one of the few cases
in which the witnesses experienced adverse health issues as a result of it. In
addition, it would later lead to a civil suit against the US government for
damages.
On that fateful night, Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum and her grandson Colby were
driving home to Dayton, Texas. As they traveled down Farm-To-Market Rd 1485, a
desolate stretch of road in Piney Woods northeast of Houston, Colby noticed a
light ahead of them just over the tree line. Initially their first thought was
it's an airplane or helicopter from one of the nearby airfields. However, once
it got closer they realized this was no ordinary aircraft.
The UFO, which now hovered over the road directly in front of them, was
shaped like a diamond with the top and bottom cutoff. At regular intervals it
was shooting out an intense stream of reddish-orange flames from the bottom.
They described it as something akin to a rocket blast. Betty had brought the car
to an immediate stop to avoid driving underneath it.
The cars heater had been on to fight the cold chill of that late December
night. Yet Betty had to turn it off as the vehicle became extremely hot inside.
The three occupants soon exited the car because of it. Once outside they could
hear a roaring sound coming from the UFO. As well, they also heard a constant
beeping sound being emitted from the craft. They also felt an immense amount of
heat radiating from the craft. Their faces felt as if they were burning.
Scared, Colby Landrum and his grandmother went back into the car in search of
safety. Betty, fascinated by what see was seeing, had decided to stay outside.
Not a believer in UFOs or ET, she felt this was the return of Christ and the end
of the world. As they all watched this spectacle, the sky was soon filled with
helicopters. According to the witnesses, they observed around 23 of them which
they later identified as both Chinook and Huey copters.
Betty soon returned to the vehicle, but burned herself while trying to open
the door. The car had become extremely hot to the touch. Using her leather coat,
she opened the door and entered the vehicle. Soon thereafter, the UFO slowly
ascended with the helicopters in tow as it disappeared off into the
distance.
In short, this is the just of what happened that night.
Fast-forward almost 19 years to the day, a then secret military aircraft
would soon make headlines as the result of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)
request by the magazine Popular Mechanics. The craft, named the Lenticular
Reentry Vehicle (LVR), was a nuclear flying saucer designed by the Los Angeles
Division of North American Aviation under contract with the U.S. Air Force.
Until then, this flying saucer had been hidden away for years under the
Pentagons cloak of black budget secrets. The project was classified from 1962
until December 28, 1999 when it was cleared for public release.
The LVR held a crew of four and would have operated at an orbital altitude of
300 nautical miles, a distance equal to that of the Earth's atmosphere. It was
designed for missions of a six-week duration. The propulsion on this saucer was
accomplished through its dual nuclear rocket engines and onboard nuclear
powerplants. The craft was built to rain hell down on any enemy at a moments
notice with its arsenal of nuclear missiles.
Dr. Brian McClelland, Betty Cash's personal physician, later stated that the
witnesses suffered radiation exposure on a level felt three to five miles from
ground zero of Hiroshima or 2-3 grays of radiation. A full-body exposure at one
time to 5 gray or more from high-energy radiation leads to death within 14 days.
The victims encounter only lasted for approximately 15 minutes. All three had
classic symptoms of exposure from nausea, vomiting and burns, to hair loss,
swelling and diarrhea. Their health issues were immediate, starting only a few
hours after the sighting.
Keep in mind it was Dr. McClelland who also stated an inside source informed
him this UFO was an experimental nuclear craft called the WASP II.
They reported that the UFO appeared to be in trouble and was having
difficulties. As mentioned, it was emitting a loud pitched beep a regular
intervals. Might this beep have been an emergency warning system triggered as a
result of a failing nuclear reactor onboard this experimental aircraft? Or could
it be this craft was equipped with a nuclear rocket propulsion system and the
described rocket blasts coming out the bottom were producing a radioactive
exhaust?
Given the degree to which they suffered as a result of their exposure, is it
a reasonable assumption that the pilot and crew of this troubled UFO possibly
received a lethal dose of radiation. The diamond craft was a substantial size
and would have warranted a crew larger than just a single pilot. Sadly, if the
cockpit and crew were not protected, they likely died within weeks after the
incident.
In the LVR example, the aircraft was not equipped with any protective layer
between the occupants and nuclear reactors. Instead, it was designed for the
emergency ejection of a smaller craft that separated from the saucer and
returned its crew safely to Earth. Considering the Cash-Landrum UFO was under
intelligent control throughout their encounter, it would seem apparent that this
crew stayed with it until the very end.
Why would they put civilians at risk by hovering this nuclear disaster over a
public road for such an extended length of time? Knowing they were making their
last flight before certain death, did they hope to expose this experimental
aircraft before resigning to their death beds? In essence, making a death bed
confession. The area surrounding their encounter had a number of open fields the
craft could have used as opposed to a public road. These are questions that may
never be answered.
In regards to the Chinook and Huey helicopters escorting it, they were likely
dispatched to assist in the recovery of this craft should it crash or the crew
fail. Never have so many copters been witnessed around a UFO at one time. This
was probably due to the severe nature of the incident. Essentially, the military
was dealing with a potential nuclear disaster over a populated area on a scale
seldom seen in history. They would have been tasked with securing the crash site
as well as the immediate evacuation of the public surrounding it.
That said, it's doesn't take a large leap of faith to believe this UFO was
man-made. Clearly the evidence points more to that being the case as opposed to
extraterrestrials. While it's probable that humanity has been visited on
multiple occasions, this is not one such example. Instead, Betty Cash, Vickie
Landrum and grandson Colby were the victims of an experimental nuclear aircraft
that went awry. One in which officialdom still denies...
5 scientific theories about what aliens might look like - The
Week
We've seen them portrayed in a vast variety of Hollywood films, from the
nasty, slimy suckers shown in Independence Day to the precious,
teddy-bear-esque creature that charmed us in E.T. But which is closer
to the truth? As our understanding of the universe grows and the outlook on our
existence is in turn humbled, scientists are beginning to theorize what these
extraterrestrials might look like. While opinions can certainly vary (we all
have them, no doubt), scientists are forming theirs on the basis of
environmental and biological clues rather than science fiction. Does that mean
we're closer to the answer? Of course not! Read on below to see the various
forms of life scientists are predicting.
1. JELLYFISH Dr Maggie Aderin-Pocock, who works for space
firm Astrium, believes
that aliens would be marine-type animals with "pulses of light for
communication with other aliens, mouth type openings to scope chemicals from
atmosphere for growth and reproduction, bodies that enlarge in sunlight,
metallic surfaces for absorbing light, lenses for detailed viewing of their
surroundings, orange undersides for camouflage, buoyancy sacks to maintain
altitude." She bases this on her theory of how life began in the ocean here on
earth and draws the conclusion that creatures could interact with a foreign
atmosphere the same way organisms in our oceans interact with water.
2. BUGS Cockroaches are among our planet's most
indestructible creatures thanks to their thick exoskeleton, able to survive a
very large range of intense conditions (including, some
say, nuclear war). This makes a bug-style life form (intelligent or not)
with strong armor a
good bet when it comes to the myriad of environments which our universe
contains.
3. JUST LIKE HUMANS Simon
Conway Morris, professor of evolutionary paleobiology at Cambridge
University, thinks that aliens would be "just like humans," not only in
appearance and biology but in weaknesses, such as "greed, violence and a
tendency to exploit others' resources."
"My view is that Darwinian evolution is really quite predictable," Morris
says, "and when you have a biosphere and evolution takes over, then common
themes emerge and the same is true for intelligence."
Whether aliens being "just like us" would be a good thing or a bad thing is
up for debate!
4. NON-CARBON LIFE Based on what we know about life as it
exists on Earth, it's understandable why many scientists, including Morris,
would subscribe to the idea that aliens will look like humans. But while most of
the life found on planet Earth is composed of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen,
oxygen, phosphorus, and sulfur, scientists found multicellular organisms that do
not need oxygen back in 2010 (only bacteria were thought to have this trait
prior). This obviously opened up a few questions about the way we view life and
how it can exist. Scientific hypotheses exist today that suggest non-carbon
based life could exist in the universe the
trendy pick is now silicon-based life forms and if this turns out to be
true, chances are that it would look nothing like that found on our planet.
5. CREATURES OF THE EXTREMES: DEEP SEA AND HIGH AIR For
example, in the Discovery Canada show Aliens: The Definitive Guide, Dr.
Lewis Dartnell, an astrobiologist at University College London, laid
out a few possibilities for aliens that might come from planets unlike our
own. Creatures from "water worlds" might develop along the lines of the
organisms we find in the bowels of our oceans, and a planet with a heavy gravity
could support bigger, larger, and more powerful "flying creatures" that take
advantage of the thick and dense atmosphere.
Have any ideas of your own about what E.T. might look like? Feel free to
leave them in the comments below.
Een mooie "vliegende schotel',... gewoon een drone?
Bekijk dit filmpje van een mooie "vliegende schotel", maar het is volgens mij gewoon een "drone". De techniek staat niet stil en van afstand besturen valt mee, zelfs voor militaire tussenkomsten.
Als het filmpje gedaan, kan je nog een aantal, andere interessante items aanklikken.
In honor of US Independence
Day, Catherine Austin Fitts, a former Assistant Secretary of the Department of
Housing and Urban Development (HUD), released a document supporting her claims
that the US Navy initiated a plan in 1998 to adjust its operations for a future
where extraterrestrials exist and live among us. She claims the plan was
commissioned by the Undersecretary of the US Navy and was undertaken by the
Arlington Institute, an NGO located near the Pentagon with many military
clients, where Fitts served on the Board of Directors. She was asked to assist
with the plan and claims she was given an opportunity to meet a live alien, but
declined. When I contacted the Arlington Institute in 2008, two members of the
Board of Directors repudiated Fitts claims. The document released on her website
is the official minutes of a Board of Directors meeting held at the Arlington
Institute in 2000. The document confirms key elements in her version of events,
especially that Arlington Institute was actively discussing plans for how to
best prepare the general public for disclosing the existence of, and contact
with, extraterrestrial life.
Catherine Fitts claims that in 1998 the Undersecretary of the
U.S. Navy had commissioned a high level strategic plan to prepare the American
public for an official announcement that extraterrestrials exist and live among
us. She
wrote:
In 1998, I was approached by John Peterson, head of the Arlington
Institute, a small high quality military think tank in Washington, DC. I had
gotten to know John through Global Business Network and had been impressed by
his intelligence, effectiveness and compassion. John asked me to help him with a
high level strategic plan Arlington was planning to undertake for the
Undersecretary of the Navy. At the time I was the target of an intense smear
campaign that would lead the normal person to assume that I would be in jail
shortly or worse. John explained that the Navy understood that it was all
politics - they did not care. I met with a group of high level people in the
military in the process including the Undersecretary. According to John, the
purpose of the plan discussed in front of several military or retired military
officers and former government officials was to help the Navy adjust their
operations for a world in which it was commonly known that aliens exist and live
among us. When John explained this purpose to me, I explained that I did not
know that aliens existed and lived among us. John asked me if I would like to
meet some aliens. For the only time in my life, I declined an opportunity to
learn about something important.
In March 2008 I was planning to
write an article about Ms Fitts claims, and began my investigation by first
contacting her to elaborate or clarify her earlier recollection. Fitts said she
had nothing to add to what had already been released to the public. I then
contacted John Petersen, President of the Arlington Institute. He flatly denied
Ms Fitts claims and offered to put me in communication with other members of the
Board of Directors to get independent confirmation. In subsequent email
communications with Joe Firmage, another Board member, he also denied Ms
Fitts version of events, and did not recall any meetings where she was also
present where the issue of extraterrestrial life was discussed. I was
unsuccessful in reaching Jerry
MacArthur Hultin, who served as Undersecretary of the Navy during the period
mentioned by Fitts.
To varying degrees, Petersen and Firmage both claimed there was
no substance to Fitts story. Petersen was especially insistent that Fitts had
contrived the entire scenario. Given that two members of the Arlington Institute
Board of Directors directly contradicted her version of events, and I was not
able to find any other witnesses to support her claims, I decided to postpone
writing an article on the incident until independent confirmation could be
found.
Almost five years later, in my recently published book, Galactic
Diplomacy: Getting to Yes with ET, I included the incident described by
Catherine Fitts along with the denial by John Petersen and Joe Firmage. I wrote:
I have been able to confirm that Fitts served on the Board of
Directors of the Arlington Institute during the period in question, and that
extraterrestrial life was discussed at some of its closed door meetings as a
hypothetical wildcard event. However, Fitts specific claim of there being a
strategic plan sponsored by the U.S. Navy to prepare the public for disclosure
of extraterrestrial life, or of a possible meeting an extraterrestrial, was not
supported by other Board members.414
In the footnote 414,
I gave some details of my communications with Petersen and Firmage. On July 4,
2013 I received a short email by Ms Fitts with a subject header referencing
footnote 414 in my Galactic Diplomacy book where I elaborated on the repudiation
of her claims by Arlington Institute Board members. The content of her email
directed me to a new page on her Solari website which was just
uploaded. She wrote:
In the spirit of Independence Day, I am publishing the minutes of
the board meeting of the Arlington Institute on April 10th, 2000. I have
repeatedly stated that I would do so if my description of this meeting was
contradicted by any of the members.
With the publication of Galactic
Diplomacy, the contradiction of her version of events by other Arlington
Institute Board members was now part of the public record. Consequently, Fitts
felt free to release documentation supporting her version of events Minutes of
the March 26, 1999 Board of Directors meeting. The Minutes
of the meeting state:
Mr. Petersen then reported that the Institute had been approached to
determine if it was interested in publishing a study by Pickford and Lindemann
on the subject of life outside of the earth. After discussion, there was general
agreement that publication of the study would be a good idea and would be
consistent with the work otherwise being done by the Institute with respect to
wild cards.
While the study mentioned by Pickford and Lindemann is
not identified, here is an online account
of eight alien contact scenarios they developed for a workshop on
extraterrestrial contact as recalled by one of the participants:
Called the second Contact Planning meeting and held in Denver,
Colorado, this workshop was sponsored by the International Space Sciences
Organization and organized by Kyle Pickford and Michael Lindemann . We spent one
afternoon in five groups: business, religion, science, government, and
media/public. Each group role-played its behavior for each of eight scenarios.
Although I have read lots of literature on post-contact behavior, this was the
first time that I deeply grasped just how people in each of those categories may
actually behave right after contact . What can we do now to prepare? We spent
the last few hours of the meeting generating and clustering various strategic
planning possibilities. A large number of these ideas clearly fit into two
clusters that I find very encouraging: (a) tell the general public the truth
right away and (b) prepare to communicate and negotiate with ETI in a friendly
and cooperative manner, even if its behavior seems unfriendly.
The
minutes of the meeting confirm that the Arlington Institute was discussing
extraterrestrial contact scenarios in at least one Board of Directors meeting as
Fitts claimed. Importantly, the minutes confirm that the Arlington Institute was
doing work for clients that involved extraterrestrial contact as a wild card
issue. According to Ms Fitts, one of these clients was the US Navy.
In private email communications, Petersen confirmed that Fitts
did participate in a Navy Project conducted by the Arlington Institute, and that
the extraterrestrial contact issue did come up as a wild card future scenario
event. However, he pointed out that there was no strategic plan commissioned by
the US Navy to prepare the public for extraterrestrial contact as claimed by
Fitts.
There
remains substantial differences between Catherine Fitts and John Petersen over
the extent to which the US Navy interest in extraterrestrial contact issues was
part of a strategic study as Fitts claims, or simply part of ad hoc discussions
as Petersen contends. Nevertheless, the official Board minutes released by Fitts
does lend support to her main claim that the US Navy commissioned a project with
the Arlington Institute for its expertise on wild card future scenarios
involving extraterrestrial contact. It can therefore be concluded with some
confidence that official efforts began in 1998 by the US Navy to prepare for a
world where extraterrestrials exist and are living among the human population.
Important article from
Billy Cox. GEIPAN and CEFAA finally started with formal cooperation and this
could be the prototype of official international UFO
committee.
General Bermudez shared
with me similar plans back in 2000. when I interviewed him (SEPRA was
predecessor of GEIPAN at the time with Jean Jacques Velasco as head of SEPRA): -
excerpt in red from my interview:
"This
year was held in Chile from march 27 to april 2, the International Air and Space
Fair (FIDAE 2000). It is one of the worlds largest aeronautical shows,
organized every two year by the Chilean Air Force (FACH) at Santiagos LosC
errillos Airport. A series of ufo events took place during four consecutives
days at FIDAE, including a press conference, a closed worshop, and two-day
symposium titled UFO: Analysis, Investigations and Perspectives for the New
Millenium, open to all attendees of the expo. . . . . The group finally makes
an energetic call to international cooperation at the level of governments and
institutions to contribute in the exchange of data and experiences, to strenght
significantly the possibility of finding answers to the unknowns currently
presented by the phenomenon. On the other hand, CEFAA is processing an
agreement protocol with SEPRA, of France and compromise of mutual cooperation
with NIDS (National Institute for Discovery Science) of
USA."
It seems it is now
finally implemented. Here is the link of the
article:
Another milestone
occurred off the MSM whiteboards last week when two foreign governments formally
agreed to collaborate on UFO/UAP research. Representatives from GEIPAN and
CEFAA, the agencies charged with collecting UFO data for France and Chile,
respectively, met for the first time at a conference in Greensboro, N.C., last
month and discovered a wealth of common ground in their approach to the
phenomena.
Réaction of Bernard L. Thouanel; I was particularly aware of the early contacts as I met General Bermudez and his
associates
from CEFAA end of the year 1999 in Chile, after having published the Cometa Report in July
1999.
Jean-Jacques Velasco whom I knew very well at this time came into a similar
agreement
when he visited Chile one year after my "first contact". It never
worked...
So, why it should better work today ?
French want to get the info from South America, but they will not give much
back in return.
For one simple reason: they don't want to study the phenomenon but apply
the technology for their own, and I know it better than anybody
because the Cometa Group key members told me many times this was their goal. And I recall that I was the only one journalist who
witnessed one of their meetings.
On the other hand, I really doubt the french will give access to all UFO
reports to Chile especially when they are concerning nuclear plants and military facilities or units.
These are National Security items in France and automatically classified.
Those who believe this so-called mutual gentle agreement of cooperation
will work and open the way to an international UFO Research Office are dreaming, or are using this announcement for the
purpose of their own advertising. Period.
I have the experience of more than 20 years as a military aerospace
journalist with full credential with the french Ministry of Defense. UFO question is a highly sensitive question in France with
highly military involvement. What do you expect in this matter ? A Miracle ?
Sorry, to be so straight and destroy this fairy tale.
Bernard L. Thouanel
Aerospace Journalist &
Photographer U.S. West Coast Correspondent
Second reaction of Bozidar Kemic: Of
course, the ex French military auditors are certainly not the ´angels´. There
are priorities and there are interests... Maybe the awareness of critical
planetary issues will bring those people together. In the first place there
are issues of nuclear security (not only the military one but primarily the
problem of nuclear plants and potential planetary nuclear polution in the case
of worst scenario like the impact of a metheor) and sustainability of living
on this planet. In great measure
the UFO-phenomenon is linked to such issues. We need sustainable technologies
for energy generation and there is a need for cooperation of all the relevant
parties.
Thanks both Bernard
and Bozidar for their opinions. Bernard's inside knowledge is particulary
interesting especialy details how the first attempts of cooperation were going
in the early days and that is was a one-way stream of data. Thanks Bernard. It
will be interesesting to see what will came out of this latest
attempt.
Besides famous VSD
issue on COMETA I would also like to recommend Bernard's special special VSD
issue OVNIS, nouvelles évidences from July 2000 that I
have.
On pages 10-19 there is
a big reportage on CEFAA with general Bermudez and Gustavo Rodriguez. I think
this was the first big expose on CEFAA that I ever saw in western
media.
Charles
Hickson is the only Abductee that Johnny Carson ever booked on The Tonight Show.
Like many people in America, he was shocked by the story of the Pascagoula Alien
Abductions and the unbelievable aftermath. Dr J. Allen Hynek and investigated
this case which began in 1973 when Charlie Hickson and Calvin Parker were taken
aboard a UFO by robotic creatures. After the story was reported to a local law
enforcement official, the U.S. Military got involved and their response was as
bizarre and troubling as the actual event. Here is your opportunity to view this
case through the eyes of those involved as we examine most baffling Alien
Abduction ever investigated. This presentation includes an exclusive interview
with Charlie Hickson, Charlie's own presentation about the event and interviews
with his children, a documentary about the case, an extremely rare interview
with Calvin Parker, interviews with Stanton Friedman (UFO Researcher), Leonard
Stringfield (UFO Crash Retrieval Researcher), Dr James Harder (Alien Abductions
Researcher), Donald Schmitt (Author and CUFOS Spokesperson), Bill Clendenin
(U.S. Navy Ship Identification and Classification), Betty Hill (Abductee), Dr
Ted Peters (UFOs and Religion Researcher), and much more! 95 minutes of stunning
material.
Les
Informations du jour des Rencontres Ufologiques
Vous recevez ces informations, vous pouvez les reproduire
Recherche Ufologique
UN DOSSIER QUI AVANCE : LE PROJET LICORNE
Le projet Licorne 2 est basé sur la création dun outil scientifique innovant, à la disposition de tous, qui permettra une avancée dans létude du phénomène.
Ce projet, cest tout simplement la réalisation dune base de donnée, la plus universelle possible, élaborée en
corrélation avec des groupes de recherche en France et des échanges dinformations avec des structures
détudes du phénomène situées aux Etats-Unis ou dans dautres pays. Elle devra contenir un grand nombre
dinformations, mettre à disposition un maximum de cas détaillés ou enquêtés.
Il existe un certain nombre de projets relatifsà des bases de données, mais soit ils nont pas abouti, soit ils
stagnent et ne répondent pas aux exigences actuelles.
Licorne 2 est la poursuite dun projet élaboréen 1989 par le groupe Magonia, sous le nom de « Licorne »
bien étudié, très approfondi ;mais qui na pu aboutir à lépoque faute de moyens financiers. Ce projet va donc
être à nouveau étudié et mis aux normes actuelles et devra répondre aux critères exigés par les groupes et
chercheurs associés. Nous sommes en face dun phénomène qui présente dextrêmes disparités face aux
diverses situations et il est indispensable de mettre en place un système souple, évolutif et facile demploi
capable de prendre en considération cette diversité sans laltérer. Outre un travail de recherche, qui associe
déjà plusieurs chercheurs etgroupes détudes, il y aura dans un second temps un travail important pour
rentrer les données.
Si vous souhaitez contribuer à lélaboration de cette base de données, si vous avez des compétences dans
ce domaine, nous vous invitons à contacter le Mufon France, gestionnaire du projet, qui concentre depuis
quelques mois toute la matière grise utile à la mise en place de « Licorne 2 ».Informations sur la page
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NOUS
AVONS LE PLAISIR D'ACCUEILLIR :
MONSIEUR
JEAN-GABRIEL GRESLE
1942-1954
: LA GENESE D'UN SECRET D'ETAT
« 1942-1954, la genèse dun secret dEtat »,
vient couronner en quelque sorte le travail considérable qui avait déjà été
accompli et qui avait abouti à la publication de deux ouvrages majeurs pour la
compréhension de cette période charnière dans lhistoire de lhumanité : «
Extraterrestres : secret dEtat », et «Documents interdits, la fin dun
secret».
Avec
ce dernier opus, le commandant Greslé est allé aussi loin quil est possible
daller en se basant exclusivement sur létude minutieuse de documents
officiels. Il a montré que la question des ovnis pouvait être un sujet d'étude
sérieux pour les historiens, comme la guerre de 100 ans ou la chute de Rome par
exemple. Rien n'empêchait de l'examiner sous cet angle et d'en tirer des
résultats significatifs. Lensemble des trois livres forme un tout dune
cohérence irréprochable, et cest ce qui importe le plus en définitive. La
cohérence de lensemble rend acceptable le fait quil puisse y avoir des
éléments dont lorigine est incertaine. La rigueur méthodologique nest jamais
prise en défaut et lanalyse des documents montre une grande connaissance de la
façon dont fonctionnent les services de renseignements et la hiérarchie
militaire.
Le
pari initial était risqué : introduire dans la démonstration des documents dont
lauthenticité nétait pas établie à 100%. Cest un exercice à haut risque qui
demande de maintenir constamment en alerte son sens critique et de toujours
envisager les choses sous plusieurs angles à la fois. Le pari a été tenu, et
lauteur a su rester en équilibre sur la « corde raide » jusquau bout si je
puis dire.
Le
piège à éviter était de considérer ces documents soit comme totalement faux ou,
au contraire, comme totalement vrais. Sils sont totalement faux, ils ne sont
daucune utilité pour la démonstration, mais dun autre côté, un doute ne cesse
de planer sur lorigine réelle de ces documents. Alors comment faire ? La seule
solution est dévaluer le degré de fiabilité de chaque document pris séparément.
Au terme de ce fastidieux travail, la conclusion qui simpose est quune partie
seulement des documents est douteuse et que le reste peut être considérée comme
fiable. A partir de là, la démonstration se déroulait delle-même et les
conclusions se déduisaient sans difficulté.
Les
conclusions qui simposent sont énormes et dérangeantes, mais Jean-Gabriel
Greslé fait preuve dune grande lucidité vis-à-vis de la question dune présence
extraterrestre dans notre environnement. Il va au fond des choses et il ne
craint pas dévoquer certains aspects du problème ovni qui pourraient perturber
nos institutions. Comme, par exemple, la présence parmi nous dêtre humanoïdes
extraterrestres qui pourraient sinfiltrer dans tous les rouages de notre
société sans que nous le sachions.
Désormais,
les questions que nous devons aborder sont celles qui se rapportent à
lévaluation de lécart technologique entre eux et nous. Si nous considérons le
fait que plusieurs ethnies sont déjà présentes dans le système solaire la
question de lécart technologique devient complexe. Pour certaines ethnies,
lécart nest peut-être pas aussi considérable que cela. Il pourrait être que de
quelques centaines où milliers dannées. Les disques volants récupérés
pourraient faire partie de cette catégorie. Pour des ethnies supérieures,
lécart pourrait se chiffrer en dizaines ou en centaines de milliers dannées.
Le comportement de certains « vaisseaux » laissent penser que des ethnies de ce
niveau se manifestent aussi dans notre environnement. Enfin, en ce qui concerne
les ethnies dont lécart pourrait atteindre des millions dannées, je ne pense
pas que nous ayons la moindre chance de les apercevoir et despérer le moindre
contact avec elles.
En
ce qui me concerne, dautres paramètres entre en jeux : lécart psycho-spirituel
entre eux et nous par exemple. Comme pour lécart technologique il dépend des
ethnies considérées.
Daniel Robin.
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Un
document pour vos archives relatant une observation étrange faite en 1743.
Source
: G-G. CASANOVA DE SEINGALT Mémoires éditions de La Pléiade Gallimard
Paris, 1958 pages 177 178
La
scène se déroule dans la nuit du 31 août au 1er septembre 1743,
durant le voyage qui mène le jeune CASANOVA vers Rome où il doit rencontrer un
évêque influent.
De Terni jallai à pied à Cirocoli, où je marrêtai le temps nécessaire pour
examiner à mon aise lancien beau pont, et de là un voiturier me mena pour
quatre paoli à Castel-Nuovo, doù je me rendis à Rome. Jarrivai dans cette
ville célèbre le premier de septembre à neuf heures du
matin.
Je
ne dois point taire ici une circonstance particulière qui plaira à plus dun
lecteur, quelque ridicule quelle soit au fond.
Une
heure après Castel-Nuovo, lair étant calme et le ciel serein, japerçus à ma
droite et à dix pas de moi une flamme pyramidale de la hauteur dune coudée et
élevée de quatre à cinq pieds au-dessus du niveau du terrain. Cette apparition
me frappa, car elle semblait maccompagner. Voulant létudier, je cherchai à
men approcher, mais, plus jallais de son côté, et plus elle séloignait de
moi. Elle sarrêtait dès que je marrêtais et, lorsque la partie du chemin que
je traversais se trouvait bordée darbres, je cessais de la voir, mais je la
retrouvais dès que le bord du chemin redevenait libre. Jessayai aussi de
retourner sur mes pas, mais chaque fois elle disparaissait et ne se remontrait
que lorsque je me dirigeais de nouveau vers Rome. Ce singulier fanal ne me
quitta que lorsque la lumière du jour eut chassé les
ténèbres.
Quel
champ merveilleux pour la superstition ignorante si, ayant eu des témoins de ce
fait, il métait arrivé de faire une brillante carrière à Rome ! Lhistoire est
remplie de bagatelles de cette importance et le monde est plein de gens qui en
font encore grand cas, malgré les prétendues lumières que les sciences procurent
à lesprit humain. Je dois avouer en toute vérité quen dépit de mes
connaissances en physique, la vue de ce petit météore na pas laissé de me
donner des idées singulières. Jeus la prudence de nen rien dire à personne
On
peut se demander ce qua vu CASANOVA cette nuit-là. Que pouvait bien être cette
« flamme pyramidale » de 50 cm de hauteur qui se déplaçait à un peu plus dun
mètre du sol ?
Communiqué
par M.T.
On peut
trouver ces mémoires sur EBay, mais à des prix élevés!
UNE
NOUVELLE LIVRAISON DARCHIVES UFOLOGIQUES FAITE PAR LE SCEAU A LA BIBLIOTHÈQUE
DU PONTIFFROY A METZ POUR LA POSTÉRIORITÉ
Le vendredi 21 juin 2013, au siège de
lassociation LE SCEAU (Sauvegarde
et Conservation des Études et Archives Ufologiques ») cétait le début dun week-end particulièrement studieux,
consacré comme cest lhabitude à un travail actif. Il sagissait de préparer
une nouvelle livraison de nombreux cartons de livres qui devaient partir le
lendemain pour Metz. Tout est fait en respectant les réglés les plus
draconiennes en matière darchivage. Il convenait donc de vérifier une ultime
fois que tous les ouvrages déposés étaient bien inventoriés dans la base de
données des livres francophones et livres en langues étrangères, dapposer
lesmarques du Sceau (tampon) qui en cas
de volpermettraient une identification
des origines des documents, terminer la mise en carton etc . Un travail actif,
assuré ce jour là par Gilles Durand qui avait au préalable apporté les cartons
nécessaires, par Didier Charnay de passage sur Paris, et Jacques Scornaux le
président du Sceau.
Le
lendemain 22 juin 2013 dès 8 h 30 précise, Raoul Robé et Lionel Robé sont venus
prendre le précieux chargement, le 8éme dépôt du Sceau dans cette bibliothèque
(Bibliothèque du Pontiffroy à Metz.) Tout avait été préparé pour le chargement
par Jacques Scornaux et Thierry Rocher, qui le matin de bonheur, étaient déjà à
luvre. Mission accomplie, un SSM de Raoul Robé a averti le « gros « de la
troupe restée sur place pour assurer une journée dinventaire des archives
confiées. (entre autre, les archives de SOS Ovni). Notons la présence ce
jour-là, pour vérifier comment le SCEAU travaille, de Jean Pierre Rospars,
ingénieur agronome et directeur de recherches à lInra. Jean Piere Rospart
sintéresse depuis bien longtemps aux phénomènes aérospatiaux non identifiés,
mais curieux, il souhaitait se rendre compte de la façon dont le SCEAU
travaillait. Une preuve de lintérêt que les chercheurs les plus compétents
portent au travail du Sceau.
Le
SCEAU, ce ne sont pas des amateurs, il existe ettravaille activement depuis 1990, léquipe
comporte des membres actifs de grande qualité, reconnus dans le monde ufologique
pour leur sérieux et leurs compétences. Cest la garantie dun travail bien
fait, de laccomplissement dune uvre bénéfique pour tous.
Rappelons
que les fonds récupérés par le SCEAU sont répartis dans les lieux de
dépôts en fonction de leur nature. Après classement et inventaire, (dont le
SCEAU détient tous les éléments, documents à votre disposition) les archives
et périodiques sont déposées auprès des Archives de France (Archives
Nationales ou Départementales) tandis que les livres, statutairement
refusés par les Archives (livres et revues figurant au dépôt légal)sont
déposés dans des bibliothèques publiques. Tous ces dépôts font l'objet d'un
contrat visant à assurer leur pérennité et définissant les conditions de
consultation.
À ce
jour, cest plus de 40 fonds darchives issus de particuliers, associations ou
organismes divers qui sont sauvegardés dans des établissements spécialisés,
disséminés aux quatre coins de la France et en Suisse. Une formidable collection
comportant des dizaines de milliers de documents accessibles à tous et qui
nécessiteraient si on ouvrait un établissement spécialisé (mais qui
financerait ?) de nombreuses pièces ou de grands volumes. On sait ou et quoi est
archivé, on peut facilement en prendre connaissance, cest ouvert au public, de
plus, tout nest pas concentré en un seul endroit, mais réparti sur le
territoire national en fonction de lorigine des
donations.
SOS
ARCHIVES EN PÉRIL UN APPEL DU SCEAU
Si vous
avez connaissance darchives touchant à lufologie ou à des questions connexes
qui sont menacées de disparition, nous vous remercions davance de prendre
contact avec le SCEAU dans les meilleurs délais, afin déviter que se
reproduisent les cas dramatiques observés par le passé et encore récemment. Si
vous disposez darchives sur les phénomènes aérospatiaux non identifiés, y
compris si elles ne sont pas conséquentes, prenez dès aujourdhui vos
dispositions afin que votre documentation ne soit pas détruite en établissant un
contrat avec le SCEAU, que vous adapterez selon votre volonté. Cest la garantie
que votre précieuse documentation ne soit pas détruite et quelle soit archivée,
disponible pour tous en fonction de vos désirs pour la postérité ; Le SCEAU à
déjà enregistrés de très nombreux contrats de cession, il dispose de plusieurs
milliers de nom de personnes susceptibles de détenir des documents, ils ont été
contactés, nombreux sont ceux ou celles qui ont pris leurs disposition. Faites
de même, sans tarder .
Nous
participons à la sauvegarde de nos archives, le site fait régulièrement lobjet
de sauvegardes destinées à un futur archivage par le SCEAU.
On peut
contacter le SCEAU qui détient tous les registres utiles, les informations que
vous souhaitez obtenir sur le contenu des fonds, les bases de données de ce qui
est répertorié au sceau au niveau des livres etc en envoyant un mail à :
sceauarchivovni@yahoo.fr ou
encore par courrieren écrivant à :
SCEAU
/ Archives OVNI
BP 19, 91805 Brunoy Cedex.
Mais
surtout, si vous habitezParis, la
région Parisienne ou que vous pouvez venir de temps à autre sur Paris,
participez activement au travail du SCEAU en donnant de votre temps, de vos
compétences pour inventorier les fonds qui arrivent en nombre au siège du SCEAU.
Des journées sont organisées pour faire ce travail, généralement le samedi, il
faut beaucoup de main duvre, il y a des tonnes darchives à mettre en ordre, à
référencer, avant quelles soient dirigées vers les bibliothèques ou les
archives nationales ou départementales qui ont déjà un contrat avec le SCEAU.
Les
buts de lassociation :
·Sauvegarder
le patrimoine ufologique privé.
·Archiver
cette documentation d'origine publique ou privée.
·Gérer
ce fonds documentaire, ouvert à tous, en le protégeant et en l'organisant de
façon structurée en liaison directe avec les Archives Nationales et
Départementales.
·Instaurer
une démarche préventive facilitant une sauvegarde systématique de ce patrimoine
culturel.
13EME
RÉUNIONS DES CAFÉS UFOLOGIQUES DE CORRIENTES EN ARGENTINE MERCREDI 3 JUILLET
2013
SE
LLEVÓ A CABO LA DÉCIMA TERCERA REUNIÓN DEL CAFÉ UFOLÓGICO DE CORRIENTES
Andrés
Salvador
Franco
Antonio Aguirre, Andres Salvador, José Andrés Gómez y Carlos Coria (der. de
pie) Juan Sebastián Verón,Pablo Omastott, Margarita Rotela y Marcelo Juan
Gainza (der. sentados)
En
la tarde del miércoles 3 de julio se realizó en la librería Capitulo 1 [Mendoza
750 -Corrientes], la 13º Reunión del Café Ufológico de
Corrientes.
La
misma comenzó a las 19 hs. con la presencia de Franco Antonio Aguirre, Fernando
Martín Benítez, Carlos Coria, Marcelo Juan Gainza, José Andrés Gómez, Pablo
Omastott, Margarita Rotela, Juan Sebastián Verón y quien esto suscribe.
En
una reunión no apta para quienes padecen de tetradecafobia, los temas abordados
fueron muy variados. Así se comentó como conseguir libros y otras publicaciones
sobre el fenómeno, recomendándose la consulta de sitios de internet como Mercado
Libre o el sitio de Ediciones Halbrane.
Se
comentó sobre el llamado Experimento Filadelfia, nombre que recibió un supuesto
experimento secreto llevado a cabo por la marina estadounidense en los
astilleros navales de Filadelfia, en el estado de Pensilvania, durante o antes
del 28 de octubre de 1943 y en el que un destructor de escolta, el USS Eldridge
(DE-173), se habría vuelto totalmente invisible a la vista, al mismo tiempo, en
la base naval estadounidense en Norfolk, Virginia, a 600 km de distancia, un
tripulante en sus costas declaró haber visto al navío durante 15 minutos, que
nuevamente desaparece para volver a aparecer en Filadelfia.
La
posible presencia de tecnología humana detrás de muchos de los casos de
observación de OVNIS llevo a recordar los avistamientos masivos de objetos
triangulares en el cielo de Bélgica entre 1989 y 1990. Esta tipo de artefacto se
conoce también por el nombre de "Big Black Deltas" (BBDs) o "Flying Triangles".
La serie de TV The X-Files presenta en el episodio titulado "Deep Throat" una
nave de forma triangular que sería conforme a la opinión de Fox Mulder un
vehículo experimental de la fuerza aérea estadounidense que usa tecnología
extraterrestre.
El
posible origen humano se planteó también en relación a los Círculos en las
cosechas (en inglés Crop circle) también llamados agrogramas, fenómeno que
comienza a ser conocido partir de del año 1976, cuando aparecieron los primeros
de ellos en Winchester (Reino Unido) si bien existen registros
anteriores.
Se
explico que ALF nombre de la popular serie de televisión estadounidense, emitida
por la NBC entre 1986 y 1990 es un acrónimo en inglés para Alien Life
Form con el que se designaba a un amigable extraterrestre llamado Gordon
Shumway proveniente del planeta Melmac.
También
se destacó la La importancia de los conceptos elaborados por Thomas Kuhn que
distingue en la ciencia dos momentos que denomina [I] ciencia normal, y
[2] ciencia extraordinaria en relación a los cuales propone los conceptos
deparadigma, crisis en el paradigma dominante y revolución
científica, y donde el concepto de ciencia normal está ligado al de:
Crisis en el paradigma dominante que se presenta cuando la profesión no
puede pasar por alto las anomalías que subvierten la tradición existente de
prácticas científicas, llamándose la atención sobre el interés de pensar en el
fenómeno OVNI en términos de una Anomalía.
En
este sentido se sostuvo que frente a sus propios fenómenos anómalos, la
parapsicología fue reconocida en 1969 como una verdadera ciencia por la Sociedad
de mayor autoridad en el mundo en materia de ciencia, la AAAS (American
Association for the Advancement of Science) por haber dado una respuesta
conforme al método científico y en esto, el estudio de los OVNIS puede encontrar
una pauta a seguir.
Se
recordó a Hombre mirando al sudeste, película argentina escrita y dirigida por
Eliseo Subiela en 1986 y su controvertida
influencia
en la coproducción estadounidense alemana K-PAXdel 2001 dirigida por Iain
Softley.
El
comentario hecho sobre la observación de Humanoides en Paso Lovera (Corrientes)
en enero 2002 dio lugar a que se recuerde la explicación propuesta por Scott
Corrales en su artículo Holograms and High Strangeness publicado en la revista
Fate
Magazine
de marzo de 2003.
Se
recomendó por la calidad de los documentos presentados, ver en la serie
Contacto
extraterrestre
que es emitida por The
History Channel,
el abordaje del Caso Polanco o Caso Bariloche ocurrido el 31 de julio de 1995.
Al
final de la reunión se obsequió a Franco Antonio Aguirre con un ejemplar del
libro del Dr. Roberto Banchs, Guía Biográfica de la Ufología Argentina - Los
primeros veinticinco años(1947-1972), ed. Cefai, Buenos Aires, 2000,
128 pp. que fuera donado oportunamente por su autor para ser distribuido por el
Café.
Posteriormente
tantoFranco Antonio Aguirre, como Juan Sebastián Verón adhirieron a la petición
dirigida a la Sra. Presidenta de la Nación que impulsa la Comisión
de Estudios Fenómeno OVNI República Argentina - CEFORA
a fin de que se proceda a la desclasificación de los expedientes OVNI de los
organismos oficiales.
La
14º Reunión del Café Ufológico de Corrientes quedó fijada para el próximo 7 de
agosto en el mismo lugar y hora. (Fotografías: Pablo
Omastott).
Les Rencontres Ufologiques, un site fédérateur, créé pour vous, qui se met à votre
disposition pour la diffusion de vos idées, de vos informations, de vos
réunions, de vos articles etc
Merci
de communiquer directement à la rédaction du site vos informations et tout ce
que vous souhaitez mettre en ligne, pour le profit de tous (Notre émail :
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)
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UN DOSSIER QUI AVANCE : LE PROJET LICORNE
Le projet Licorne 2 est basé sur la création dun outil scientifique innovant, à la disposition de tous, qui permettra une avancée dans létude du phénomène.
Ce projet, cest tout simplement la réalisation dune base de donnée, la plus universelle possible, élaborée en
corrélation avec des groupes de recherche en France et des échanges dinformations avec des structures
détudes du phénomène situées aux Etats-Unis ou dans dautres pays. Elle devra contenir un grand nombre
dinformations, mettre à disposition un maximum de cas détaillés ou enquêtés.
Il existe un certain nombre de projets relatifsà des bases de données, mais soit ils nont pas abouti, soit ils
stagnent et ne répondent pas aux exigences actuelles.
Licorne 2 est la poursuite dun projet élaboréen 1989 par le groupe Magonia, sous le nom de « Licorne »
bien étudié, très approfondi ;mais qui na pu aboutir à lépoque faute de moyens financiers. Ce projet va donc
être à nouveau étudié et mis aux normes actuelles et devra répondre aux critères exigés par les groupes et
chercheurs associés. Nous sommes en face dun phénomène qui présente dextrêmes disparités face aux
diverses situations et il est indispensable de mettre en place un système souple, évolutif et facile demploi
capable de prendre en considération cette diversité sans laltérer. Outre un travail de recherche, qui associe
déjà plusieurs chercheurs etgroupes détudes, il y aura dans un second temps un travail important pour
rentrer les données.
Si vous souhaitez contribuer à lélaboration de cette base de données, si vous avez des compétences dans
ce domaine, nous vous invitons à contacter le Mufon France, gestionnaire du projet, qui concentre depuis
quelques mois toute la matière grise utile à la mise en place de « Licorne 2 ».Informations sur la page
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LYON ET LES RENCONTRES DES SCIENCES ET DE
L'INEXPLIQUE
SAMEDI
23 NOVEMBRE 2013
NOUS
AVONS LE PLAISIR D'ACCUEILLIR :
MONSIEUR
JEAN-GABRIEL GRESLE
1942-1954
: LA GENESE D'UN SECRET D'ETAT
« 1942-1954, la genèse dun secret dEtat »,
vient couronner en quelque sorte le travail considérable qui avait déjà été
accompli et qui avait abouti à la publication de deux ouvrages majeurs pour la
compréhension de cette période charnière dans lhistoire de lhumanité : «
Extraterrestres : secret dEtat », et «Documents interdits, la fin dun
secret».
Avec
ce dernier opus, le commandant Greslé est allé aussi loin quil est possible
daller en se basant exclusivement sur létude minutieuse de documents
officiels. Il a montré que la question des ovnis pouvait être un sujet d'étude
sérieux pour les historiens, comme la guerre de 100 ans ou la chute de Rome par
exemple. Rien n'empêchait de l'examiner sous cet angle et d'en tirer des
résultats significatifs. Lensemble des trois livres forme un tout dune
cohérence irréprochable, et cest ce qui importe le plus en définitive. La
cohérence de lensemble rend acceptable le fait quil puisse y avoir des
éléments dont lorigine est incertaine. La rigueur méthodologique nest jamais
prise en défaut et lanalyse des documents montre une grande connaissance de la
façon dont fonctionnent les services de renseignements et la hiérarchie
militaire.
Le
pari initial était risqué : introduire dans la démonstration des documents dont
lauthenticité nétait pas établie à 100%. Cest un exercice à haut risque qui
demande de maintenir constamment en alerte son sens critique et de toujours
envisager les choses sous plusieurs angles à la fois. Le pari a été tenu, et
lauteur a su rester en équilibre sur la « corde raide » jusquau bout si je
puis dire.
Le
piège à éviter était de considérer ces documents soit comme totalement faux ou,
au contraire, comme totalement vrais. Sils sont totalement faux, ils ne sont
daucune utilité pour la démonstration, mais dun autre côté, un doute ne cesse
de planer sur lorigine réelle de ces documents. Alors comment faire ? La seule
solution est dévaluer le degré de fiabilité de chaque document pris séparément.
Au terme de ce fastidieux travail, la conclusion qui simpose est quune partie
seulement des documents est douteuse et que le reste peut être considérée comme
fiable. A partir de là, la démonstration se déroulait delle-même et les
conclusions se déduisaient sans difficulté.
Les
conclusions qui simposent sont énormes et dérangeantes, mais Jean-Gabriel
Greslé fait preuve dune grande lucidité vis-à-vis de la question dune présence
extraterrestre dans notre environnement. Il va au fond des choses et il ne
craint pas dévoquer certains aspects du problème ovni qui pourraient perturber
nos institutions. Comme, par exemple, la présence parmi nous dêtre humanoïdes
extraterrestres qui pourraient sinfiltrer dans tous les rouages de notre
société sans que nous le sachions.
Désormais,
les questions que nous devons aborder sont celles qui se rapportent à
lévaluation de lécart technologique entre eux et nous. Si nous considérons le
fait que plusieurs ethnies sont déjà présentes dans le système solaire la
question de lécart technologique devient complexe. Pour certaines ethnies,
lécart nest peut-être pas aussi considérable que cela. Il pourrait être que de
quelques centaines où milliers dannées. Les disques volants récupérés
pourraient faire partie de cette catégorie. Pour des ethnies supérieures,
lécart pourrait se chiffrer en dizaines ou en centaines de milliers dannées.
Le comportement de certains « vaisseaux » laissent penser que des ethnies de ce
niveau se manifestent aussi dans notre environnement. Enfin, en ce qui concerne
les ethnies dont lécart pourrait atteindre des millions dannées, je ne pense
pas que nous ayons la moindre chance de les apercevoir et despérer le moindre
contact avec elles.
En
ce qui me concerne, dautres paramètres entre en jeux : lécart psycho-spirituel
entre eux et nous par exemple. Comme pour lécart technologique il dépend des
ethnies considérées.
Daniel Robin.
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Un
document pour vos archives relatant une observation étrange faite en 1743.
Source
: G-G. CASANOVA DE SEINGALT Mémoires éditions de La Pléiade Gallimard
Paris, 1958 pages 177 178
La
scène se déroule dans la nuit du 31 août au 1er septembre 1743,
durant le voyage qui mène le jeune CASANOVA vers Rome où il doit rencontrer un
évêque influent.
De Terni jallai à pied à Cirocoli, où je marrêtai le temps nécessaire pour
examiner à mon aise lancien beau pont, et de là un voiturier me mena pour
quatre paoli à Castel-Nuovo, doù je me rendis à Rome. Jarrivai dans cette
ville célèbre le premier de septembre à neuf heures du
matin.
Je
ne dois point taire ici une circonstance particulière qui plaira à plus dun
lecteur, quelque ridicule quelle soit au fond.
Une
heure après Castel-Nuovo, lair étant calme et le ciel serein, japerçus à ma
droite et à dix pas de moi une flamme pyramidale de la hauteur dune coudée et
élevée de quatre à cinq pieds au-dessus du niveau du terrain. Cette apparition
me frappa, car elle semblait maccompagner. Voulant létudier, je cherchai à
men approcher, mais, plus jallais de son côté, et plus elle séloignait de
moi. Elle sarrêtait dès que je marrêtais et, lorsque la partie du chemin que
je traversais se trouvait bordée darbres, je cessais de la voir, mais je la
retrouvais dès que le bord du chemin redevenait libre. Jessayai aussi de
retourner sur mes pas, mais chaque fois elle disparaissait et ne se remontrait
que lorsque je me dirigeais de nouveau vers Rome. Ce singulier fanal ne me
quitta que lorsque la lumière du jour eut chassé les
ténèbres.
Quel
champ merveilleux pour la superstition ignorante si, ayant eu des témoins de ce
fait, il métait arrivé de faire une brillante carrière à Rome ! Lhistoire est
remplie de bagatelles de cette importance et le monde est plein de gens qui en
font encore grand cas, malgré les prétendues lumières que les sciences procurent
à lesprit humain. Je dois avouer en toute vérité quen dépit de mes
connaissances en physique, la vue de ce petit météore na pas laissé de me
donner des idées singulières. Jeus la prudence de nen rien dire à personne
On
peut se demander ce qua vu CASANOVA cette nuit-là. Que pouvait bien être cette
« flamme pyramidale » de 50 cm de hauteur qui se déplaçait à un peu plus dun
mètre du sol ?
Communiqué
par M.T.
On peut
trouver ces mémoires sur EBay, mais à des prix élevés!
UNE
NOUVELLE LIVRAISON DARCHIVES UFOLOGIQUES FAITE PAR LE SCEAU A LA BIBLIOTHÈQUE
DU PONTIFFROY A METZ POUR LA POSTÉRIORITÉ
Le vendredi 21 juin 2013, au siège de
lassociation LE SCEAU (Sauvegarde
et Conservation des Études et Archives Ufologiques ») cétait le début dun week-end particulièrement studieux,
consacré comme cest lhabitude à un travail actif. Il sagissait de préparer
une nouvelle livraison de nombreux cartons de livres qui devaient partir le
lendemain pour Metz. Tout est fait en respectant les réglés les plus
draconiennes en matière darchivage. Il convenait donc de vérifier une ultime
fois que tous les ouvrages déposés étaient bien inventoriés dans la base de
données des livres francophones et livres en langues étrangères, dapposer
lesmarques du Sceau (tampon) qui en cas
de volpermettraient une identification
des origines des documents, terminer la mise en carton etc . Un travail actif,
assuré ce jour là par Gilles Durand qui avait au préalable apporté les cartons
nécessaires, par Didier Charnay de passage sur Paris, et Jacques Scornaux le
président du Sceau.
Le
lendemain 22 juin 2013 dès 8 h 30 précise, Raoul Robé et Lionel Robé sont venus
prendre le précieux chargement, le 8éme dépôt du Sceau dans cette bibliothèque
(Bibliothèque du Pontiffroy à Metz.) Tout avait été préparé pour le chargement
par Jacques Scornaux et Thierry Rocher, qui le matin de bonheur, étaient déjà à
luvre. Mission accomplie, un SSM de Raoul Robé a averti le « gros « de la
troupe restée sur place pour assurer une journée dinventaire des archives
confiées. (entre autre, les archives de SOS Ovni). Notons la présence ce
jour-là, pour vérifier comment le SCEAU travaille, de Jean Pierre Rospars,
ingénieur agronome et directeur de recherches à lInra. Jean Piere Rospart
sintéresse depuis bien longtemps aux phénomènes aérospatiaux non identifiés,
mais curieux, il souhaitait se rendre compte de la façon dont le SCEAU
travaillait. Une preuve de lintérêt que les chercheurs les plus compétents
portent au travail du Sceau.
Le
SCEAU, ce ne sont pas des amateurs, il existe ettravaille activement depuis 1990, léquipe
comporte des membres actifs de grande qualité, reconnus dans le monde ufologique
pour leur sérieux et leurs compétences. Cest la garantie dun travail bien
fait, de laccomplissement dune uvre bénéfique pour tous.
Rappelons
que les fonds récupérés par le SCEAU sont répartis dans les lieux de
dépôts en fonction de leur nature. Après classement et inventaire, (dont le
SCEAU détient tous les éléments, documents à votre disposition) les archives
et périodiques sont déposées auprès des Archives de France (Archives
Nationales ou Départementales) tandis que les livres, statutairement
refusés par les Archives (livres et revues figurant au dépôt légal)sont
déposés dans des bibliothèques publiques. Tous ces dépôts font l'objet d'un
contrat visant à assurer leur pérennité et définissant les conditions de
consultation.
À ce
jour, cest plus de 40 fonds darchives issus de particuliers, associations ou
organismes divers qui sont sauvegardés dans des établissements spécialisés,
disséminés aux quatre coins de la France et en Suisse. Une formidable collection
comportant des dizaines de milliers de documents accessibles à tous et qui
nécessiteraient si on ouvrait un établissement spécialisé (mais qui
financerait ?) de nombreuses pièces ou de grands volumes. On sait ou et quoi est
archivé, on peut facilement en prendre connaissance, cest ouvert au public, de
plus, tout nest pas concentré en un seul endroit, mais réparti sur le
territoire national en fonction de lorigine des
donations.
SOS
ARCHIVES EN PÉRIL UN APPEL DU SCEAU
Si vous
avez connaissance darchives touchant à lufologie ou à des questions connexes
qui sont menacées de disparition, nous vous remercions davance de prendre
contact avec le SCEAU dans les meilleurs délais, afin déviter que se
reproduisent les cas dramatiques observés par le passé et encore récemment. Si
vous disposez darchives sur les phénomènes aérospatiaux non identifiés, y
compris si elles ne sont pas conséquentes, prenez dès aujourdhui vos
dispositions afin que votre documentation ne soit pas détruite en établissant un
contrat avec le SCEAU, que vous adapterez selon votre volonté. Cest la garantie
que votre précieuse documentation ne soit pas détruite et quelle soit archivée,
disponible pour tous en fonction de vos désirs pour la postérité ; Le SCEAU à
déjà enregistrés de très nombreux contrats de cession, il dispose de plusieurs
milliers de nom de personnes susceptibles de détenir des documents, ils ont été
contactés, nombreux sont ceux ou celles qui ont pris leurs disposition. Faites
de même, sans tarder .
Nous
participons à la sauvegarde de nos archives, le site fait régulièrement lobjet
de sauvegardes destinées à un futur archivage par le SCEAU.
On peut
contacter le SCEAU qui détient tous les registres utiles, les informations que
vous souhaitez obtenir sur le contenu des fonds, les bases de données de ce qui
est répertorié au sceau au niveau des livres etc en envoyant un mail à :
sceauarchivovni@yahoo.fr ou
encore par courrieren écrivant à :
SCEAU
/ Archives OVNI
BP 19, 91805 Brunoy Cedex.
Mais
surtout, si vous habitezParis, la
région Parisienne ou que vous pouvez venir de temps à autre sur Paris,
participez activement au travail du SCEAU en donnant de votre temps, de vos
compétences pour inventorier les fonds qui arrivent en nombre au siège du SCEAU.
Des journées sont organisées pour faire ce travail, généralement le samedi, il
faut beaucoup de main duvre, il y a des tonnes darchives à mettre en ordre, à
référencer, avant quelles soient dirigées vers les bibliothèques ou les
archives nationales ou départementales qui ont déjà un contrat avec le SCEAU.
Les
buts de lassociation :
·Sauvegarder
le patrimoine ufologique privé.
·Archiver
cette documentation d'origine publique ou privée.
·Gérer
ce fonds documentaire, ouvert à tous, en le protégeant et en l'organisant de
façon structurée en liaison directe avec les Archives Nationales et
Départementales.
·Instaurer
une démarche préventive facilitant une sauvegarde systématique de ce patrimoine
culturel.
13EME
RÉUNIONS DES CAFÉS UFOLOGIQUES DE CORRIENTES EN ARGENTINE MERCREDI 3 JUILLET
2013
SE
LLEVÓ A CABO LA DÉCIMA TERCERA REUNIÓN DEL CAFÉ UFOLÓGICO DE CORRIENTES
Andrés
Salvador
Franco
Antonio Aguirre, Andres Salvador, José Andrés Gómez y Carlos Coria (der. de
pie) Juan Sebastián Verón,Pablo Omastott, Margarita Rotela y Marcelo Juan
Gainza (der. sentados)
En
la tarde del miércoles 3 de julio se realizó en la librería Capitulo 1 [Mendoza
750 -Corrientes], la 13º Reunión del Café Ufológico de
Corrientes.
La
misma comenzó a las 19 hs. con la presencia de Franco Antonio Aguirre, Fernando
Martín Benítez, Carlos Coria, Marcelo Juan Gainza, José Andrés Gómez, Pablo
Omastott, Margarita Rotela, Juan Sebastián Verón y quien esto suscribe.
En
una reunión no apta para quienes padecen de tetradecafobia, los temas abordados
fueron muy variados. Así se comentó como conseguir libros y otras publicaciones
sobre el fenómeno, recomendándose la consulta de sitios de internet como Mercado
Libre o el sitio de Ediciones Halbrane.
Se
comentó sobre el llamado Experimento Filadelfia, nombre que recibió un supuesto
experimento secreto llevado a cabo por la marina estadounidense en los
astilleros navales de Filadelfia, en el estado de Pensilvania, durante o antes
del 28 de octubre de 1943 y en el que un destructor de escolta, el USS Eldridge
(DE-173), se habría vuelto totalmente invisible a la vista, al mismo tiempo, en
la base naval estadounidense en Norfolk, Virginia, a 600 km de distancia, un
tripulante en sus costas declaró haber visto al navío durante 15 minutos, que
nuevamente desaparece para volver a aparecer en Filadelfia.
La
posible presencia de tecnología humana detrás de muchos de los casos de
observación de OVNIS llevo a recordar los avistamientos masivos de objetos
triangulares en el cielo de Bélgica entre 1989 y 1990. Esta tipo de artefacto se
conoce también por el nombre de "Big Black Deltas" (BBDs) o "Flying Triangles".
La serie de TV The X-Files presenta en el episodio titulado "Deep Throat" una
nave de forma triangular que sería conforme a la opinión de Fox Mulder un
vehículo experimental de la fuerza aérea estadounidense que usa tecnología
extraterrestre.
El
posible origen humano se planteó también en relación a los Círculos en las
cosechas (en inglés Crop circle) también llamados agrogramas, fenómeno que
comienza a ser conocido partir de del año 1976, cuando aparecieron los primeros
de ellos en Winchester (Reino Unido) si bien existen registros
anteriores.
Se
explico que ALF nombre de la popular serie de televisión estadounidense, emitida
por la NBC entre 1986 y 1990 es un acrónimo en inglés para Alien Life
Form con el que se designaba a un amigable extraterrestre llamado Gordon
Shumway proveniente del planeta Melmac.
También
se destacó la La importancia de los conceptos elaborados por Thomas Kuhn que
distingue en la ciencia dos momentos que denomina [I] ciencia normal, y
[2] ciencia extraordinaria en relación a los cuales propone los conceptos
deparadigma, crisis en el paradigma dominante y revolución
científica, y donde el concepto de ciencia normal está ligado al de:
Crisis en el paradigma dominante que se presenta cuando la profesión no
puede pasar por alto las anomalías que subvierten la tradición existente de
prácticas científicas, llamándose la atención sobre el interés de pensar en el
fenómeno OVNI en términos de una Anomalía.
En
este sentido se sostuvo que frente a sus propios fenómenos anómalos, la
parapsicología fue reconocida en 1969 como una verdadera ciencia por la Sociedad
de mayor autoridad en el mundo en materia de ciencia, la AAAS (American
Association for the Advancement of Science) por haber dado una respuesta
conforme al método científico y en esto, el estudio de los OVNIS puede encontrar
una pauta a seguir.
Se
recordó a Hombre mirando al sudeste, película argentina escrita y dirigida por
Eliseo Subiela en 1986 y su controvertida
influencia
en la coproducción estadounidense alemana K-PAXdel 2001 dirigida por Iain
Softley.
El
comentario hecho sobre la observación de Humanoides en Paso Lovera (Corrientes)
en enero 2002 dio lugar a que se recuerde la explicación propuesta por Scott
Corrales en su artículo Holograms and High Strangeness publicado en la revista
Fate
Magazine
de marzo de 2003.
Se
recomendó por la calidad de los documentos presentados, ver en la serie
Contacto
extraterrestre
que es emitida por The
History Channel,
el abordaje del Caso Polanco o Caso Bariloche ocurrido el 31 de julio de 1995.
Al
final de la reunión se obsequió a Franco Antonio Aguirre con un ejemplar del
libro del Dr. Roberto Banchs, Guía Biográfica de la Ufología Argentina - Los
primeros veinticinco años(1947-1972), ed. Cefai, Buenos Aires, 2000,
128 pp. que fuera donado oportunamente por su autor para ser distribuido por el
Café.
Posteriormente
tantoFranco Antonio Aguirre, como Juan Sebastián Verón adhirieron a la petición
dirigida a la Sra. Presidenta de la Nación que impulsa la Comisión
de Estudios Fenómeno OVNI República Argentina - CEFORA
a fin de que se proceda a la desclasificación de los expedientes OVNI de los
organismos oficiales.
La
14º Reunión del Café Ufológico de Corrientes quedó fijada para el próximo 7 de
agosto en el mismo lugar y hora. (Fotografías: Pablo
Omastott).
Les Rencontres Ufologiques, un site fédérateur, créé pour vous, qui se met à votre
disposition pour la diffusion de vos idées, de vos informations, de vos
réunions, de vos articles etc
Merci
de communiquer directement à la rédaction du site vos informations et tout ce
que vous souhaitez mettre en ligne, pour le profit de tous (Notre émail :
lebat1@aol.com
)
APASIONANTE CAFE UFOLOGICO RIO54 DE JULIO - MUFON FRANCE
Information, especially for our friends in South America...
El jueves 1 de agosto a las
18:30 nos reuniremos nuevamente en el Café Ufológico
RIO54.
Foto,
de Izq a Der:Juan J. Castelli, Horacio Sorbaro, Javier Bertolotto,
Alejandro Merel, Alberto Portalet, Javier Stagnaro, Mario Lupo, Alex Gómez,
Daniel Postizzi, Roberto Marino, Claudia Molina, Ana Serrano, Pablo Auero,
Ricardo Quinteros, Luis Alberto Baynham, Rubén Morales, Horacio Pistoni, Mario
Coen, Pablo Cardozo, Alejandro De la Barra, Roberto Banchs, Anabella Veja,
Verónica Suárez, Andrea Pérez Simondini y Sebastián Haraya. Estuvieron presentes, pero no aparecen en la
foto: Iván Orenstein y Rubén
Romano.
RIO54, el primer Café
Ufológico argentino, demuestra en cada reunión que el tema ovni moviliza el
interés de hombres y mujeres de todas las edades y formación, dispuestos a
encontrarse una vez por mes en el Café de la Subasta para conversar
amigablemente sobre el tema de sus amores. En el encuentro del pasado 4 de julio
hubo dos nuevos participantes que fueron bienvenidos a la larga mesa, Roberto
Marino y Javier Bertolotto.
Roberto Marino, originario de Gaiman, Pcia.
de Chubut, contó diversas experiencias personales vividas en lugares
emblemáticos de la ufología, como la estancia La Aurora en Salto (Uruguay) donde
observó extrañas luces y también observó un cigarro sobre los cerros "Las
Gemelas" en Capilla del Monte (Pcia. de Córdoba, Argentina). También sorprendió
su relato sobre una emanación de energía luminosa que se veía salir del suelo en
San Marcos Sierras, pueblo muy cercano a Capilla del Monte. La anécdota derivó
en la posibilidad de que existan bases o ciudades subterráneas, ante lo cual
Sebastián Haraya comentó que eran de interés los libros publicados por Robert
Teske (en inglés) acerca la llamada "Base Dulce" en Estados Unidos, a la que ese
autor describe como una gran instalación subterránea excavada en distintos
niveles de profundidad, con experimentos más secretos a medida que se desciende,
lo que incluiría desde manipulaciones genéticas hasta coacción hacia
alienígenas. Sebastián reflexionó que ese modelo de estructura se parece a los
inframundos sucesivos de la mitología maya según su libro sagrado, el Popul Vuh.
Explicó que Teske abunda en datos que relacionan la milicia, la NSA y los
extraterrestres. También la Dra. Karla Turner en su diario sobre visitantes de
dormitorio se refiere a las denominadas "Blacks Ops" (Operaciones
Negras).
Luis Baynham habló entonces de los ovnis
vistos en proximidad de volcanes, en particular el recientemente conocido caso
del Popocatepetl en México, sobre lo cual circularon en la mesa diversas
interpretaciones, y Horacio Pistoni amplió diciendo que la fumarola dejó de
emitir gases luego de ese episodio.
Alejandro De la Barra recordó el avistaje
del comandante de Aerolíneas Argentinas Jorge Polanco, poco antes de aterrizar
en Bariloche con el Boeing 727 que pilotaba. Morales aportó algunos detalles
sobre ese caso de 1995, por ejemplo que la Fuerza Aérea difundió la
investigación que hizo, investigación que llegaba hasta un punto y se truncaba
alegando que la Aeronáutica no tenía una comisión específica para estudiar los
ovnis.
El Ing. De La Barra expresó su deseo de que
una persona como el comandante Polanco pudiera venir un día a RIO54, para poder
hablar de casos como ese, con diversos testigos, observación desde dos aviones y
torre de control.
La charla se animó con diferentes puntos de
vista, aportados entre otros por Mario Lupo, Javier Stagnaro, Sebastián Haraya y
Mario Coen, acerca de cuales son los datos duros para decir que algo es un
"ovni", un "plato volador", ¿que características debe básicamente tener?
-preguntó Mario. De la Barra hizo hincapié en los parámetros físicos, por
ejemplo que un tal objeto debería tener un comportamiento absurdo como ser
aceleraciones o velocidades extremas. Morales añadió que para que el fenómeno
sea absurdo, no es indispensable pensar en violaciones a las leyes de la física,
porque absurda era la piedra voladora que vio Guillermo Girotti junto a su
hermano, según lo relató en nuestra reunión anterior. Era absurdo ver una roca
por el cielo, pero no necesariamente una violación de las leyes físicas.
Sebastián fue por más, al decir que toda observación sucede en un esquema de
creencias, como decía John Keel, y se interrogó si una aparición mariana podría
considerarse como un evento ovni.
En la misma línea, Coen afirmó que el
fenómeno importa porque el hombre existe, y que las interpretaciones dependen de
las personas. Mencionó por caso la oleada de 1897 en Estados Unidos cuando se
vieron objetos voladores parecidos a dirigibles o aeroplanos, antes de que
estuvieran inventados. Javier Stagnaro indicó que era una fecha muy cercana a la
invención de estos aparatos y que bien pudo haber prototipos que estuvieran
probándose en 1897 aunque no aparecieran en la prensa. Luis Baynham evocó uno de
estos casos de 1897, citado por el autor Anglada Font: Un grupo familiar que
participaba de una fiesta nocturna se sorprendió al oir gritos de auxilio que
provenían del cielo, sin poder establecer de donde. Los gritos se alejaron
hasta hacerse inaudibles.
Rubén Romano, inspirado en el pensamiento de
Jacques Vallée, siguió los argumentos de Coen al generalizar que se tiende a ver
al fenómeno como algo ajeno, externo al ser humano, y que esa "ajenidad" -como
tal- ha estado presente en las creencias humanas desde los albores de la
cultura. Son aspectos que se internan en el campo de lo subjetivo. Mencionó como
ejemplo que en casos de abducción se ha relatado el ascenso al ovni por una
escalerilla convencional, lo cual siembra una contradicción, eso no parece
compatible con una supertecnología.
Casi sin darnos cuenta, la charla nos había
internado en temas conceptuales y hasta filosóficos, en el sentido de
cuestionarnos, de hacernos preguntas, de profundizar, mucho más allá de las
noticias que se publican en internet y en la prensa. Eso causó cierta inquietud,
porque claro, cuestionarse, preguntarse, hace revisar lo que se piensa y eso
genera ansiedad, es la angustia previa a la obtención de un
conocimiento.
Morales refirió que hay un estereotipo
mental del "plato volador" que no deja verlo como un fenómeno más amplio: "Yo
mismo, si viera un ovni y éste no tuviera forma de plato, me sentiría
defraudado" -bromeó. Y también planteó la posibilidad de ser visitados por
una civilización que de ninguna manera desee tomar contacto con los terrestres.
Aimé Michel, pionero de la investigación ovni en Francia, planteaba que si el
abismo cultural entre los visitantes y nosotros fuera tan amplio como el que
existe entre el entomólogo y la hormiga, no habría comunicación posible. La
hormiga siente que le pasan cosas pero no entiende, cuando la ponen en un
microscopio por ejemplo, y el científico que la observa no tiene en sus planes
comunicarse con ella.
Juan Castelli, nacido en Rawson, originario
de la Patagonia Argentina al igual que Roberto Marino, trajo a la mesa el caso
citado en otras reuniones de los submarinos fantasmas vistos en el Atlántico
Sur.Halló información en la excelente web de Historia y Arqueología Marítima de
la Fundación Histarmar sobre la Operación Golfo
Nuevo, cuando buques y aviones de la Armada atacaron a un sumergible sin
identificar el 21 de mayo de 1958.
Javier Stagnaro añadió que entre los
participantes del ataque había un joven oficial de Infantería de Marina que era
Daniel Perissé, el que luego en 1965 sería mundialmente conocido por las
observaciones de ovnis en la Antártida. Perissé le había contado a Javier
algunas rarezas sucedidas en esa Operación Golfo Nuevo del año '58. Una de ellas
es que luego de toda esa estresante jornada rastreando al sumergible por sonar y
lanzándole cargas de profundidad, llegó la noche y con ella se inició una
intensa vigilia desde los barcos. Entonces se vio, en la lejanía, media docena
de esferas luminosas que emergían del mar. Y al día siguiente los marinos
recorrieron la playa y allí encontraron dos novedades: huellas de patas de rana
(o similares) que provenían del mar y una gran marca en forma de cuña hundida en
la arena, como si un objeto pesado hubiera estado apoyado en ese lugar, sin que
se observen en las cercanías huellas de ruedas o de otro tipo, lo que
significaría que, cualquier cosa que haya sido, debió irse por el
aire.
Stagnaro remarcó que ningún país reclamó la
propiedad de ese submarino furtivo y que hasta podría pensarse en un U-boot
alemán que permaneció oculto luego de la segunda guerra.
Daniel Postizzi sumó otra anécdota naval,
que le fue contada por un radarista ya retirado. En un viaje de la Fragata
Libertad, el buque insignia de la Armada Argentina, se realizaba una práctica de
navegación nocturna a oscuras, con los sistemas eléctricos desconectados, lo que
es una práctica habitual para el entrenamiento de la tripulación en situaciones
extremas. Solamente el radar permanecía encendido por seguridad, y su pantalla
era la única fuente de luz en la sala. De pronto el radarista escuchó un fuerte
griterío en cubierta. Había aparecido sobre el buque una bola de luz roja que se
movía rápido y azarosamente, "como un buscapiés". La luz entró a la fragata
atravesando el casco, llegó a la sala de máquinas, de ahí a la de radar, salió
por la cubierta hacia proa y se perdió en el horizonte.
Por su parte, Andrea Pérez Simondini expresó
su alegría de haber localizado y entrevistado a Roberto Wilkinson, piloto de la
Armada que el 22 de mayo de 1962 observó desde su avión varios objetos no
identificados cerca de la Base Aeronaval Comandante Espora, Prov. de Buenos
Aires.
Rubén Morales finalmente expresó su
satisfacción porque además de la Red Argentina de Cafés Ufológicos que está
plena de actividades en cada ciudad, se ha producido la segunda reunión del Café
Ovni de Valencia, España, coordinado por Luis Pisu, a quien deseamos el mayor de
los éxitos y esperamos que surjan más cafés ufológicos en el país y en el
mundo.
Así transcurrió la reunión del Café
Ufológico de Julio, entre informaciones, investigaciones, anécdotas y
reflexiones. Los variados temas fueron tratados con profundidad e interés, lo
que demuestra la importancia, la necesidad, de abrir espacios de diálogo como
los cafés ufológicos para que afloren contenidos tan enriquecedores para el
conocimiento y gratificantes para el espíritu.
Como siempre se sortearon gratuitamente
entre los presentes revistas aportadas por Javier Stagnaro y Verónica Suárez,
libros donados (y, por estar presente, en esta ocasión también rubricados) por
Roberto Banchs, un DVD con buena bibliografía ufológica en formato digital que
aportó Sebastián Haraya y un curso en DVD donado por Mario Lupo. Gracias a todos
los que colaboran con aportes para el esperado momento del sorteo.
La próxima reunión del Café Ufológico
RIO54 será el jueves 1 de agosto, como siempre a las 18,30 en el Café de la
Subasta, Río de Janeiro 54, Buenos Aires.
The Filer Research Institute feels the scientific study of UFOs is for the
benefit of humankind and is an important endeavor. The weekly intelligence
report provides you with information on the latest sightings and UFO news that
you need to understand the world situation. The Institute now provides advanced
research and consultation on a wide range of subjects.
In special reports, this weeks files cover: Life on Super
Underground Water Earths, Tired of Abductions, Time is Created by Us , Three
Humongous Triangular UFOs, Space Center Letter, Anti Ballistic Missile Fails,
Crop Circles, and UFO/UAP Greensboro Symposius
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena sightings were reported over: California,
Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Nebraska, New
Jersey, New York, North Carolina, South Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, and
Vermont.
Sightings of UFOs were also reported in: Australia, Canada, China, France,
Germany,Israel, New Zealand, Romania, South Africa, and England in the United
Kingdom.
The purpose of these files is to
report the UFO eyewitness and photo/video evidence that occurs on a daily basis
around the world and in space. These Files assume that extraterrestrial
intelligent life not only exists, but my hypothesis is that the over a thousand
UFOs reported each month represent technologically advanced spacecraft
conducting surveillance of Earth. I personally became interested in UFOs when
London Control ordered me to intercept one over England while flying for the US
Air Force. Under Project Blue Book, the US Air Force investigated UFOs for more
than twenty years; and we continue this research.
I
believe the God of the universe has spread life throughout the cosmos and UFO's
are visiting us in ever-increasing numbers.
Dedicated
to 5 year old Georgie Filer V whose motto was Be Happy and Eddie Pedrick my
grandsons who drowned and my two beautiful daughters Elizabeth Lynn died March
8, 2013 and Dr. Victoria Anne Filer died April 27, 2013.
Special
Reports
You Live on a Wonderful World
Life on Super Underground Water Earths
A new super-Earth has been discovered that could have a
life-supporting climate and water. The planet, called HD 40307g, was discovered
in a multi-world solar system 42 light years from the Sun and lies at exactly
the right distance from its star to allow liquid surface water. It orbits well
within the star's habitable or Goldilocks zone - the region where
temperatures are neither too hot nor too cold to sustain life.
Professor Hugh Jones, from the University of Hertfordshire said:
The longer orbit of the new planet means that its climate and
atmosphere may be just right to support life.
Just as Goldilocks liked her porridge to be
neither too hot nor too cold but just right, this planet or indeed any moons
that is has lie in an orbit comparable to Earth, increasing the probability of
it being habitable.
The super earth is one of six planets believed to circle the dwarf star HD
40307 in the constellation Pictor. The planet turns on its axis, giving it a
regular day and night cycle and making its environment even more Earth-like.
Underground water could greatly increase the chances of
planets harboring extraterrestrial life. Taking into account sub-surface
habitats broadens the range of places life-sustaining planets can occupy, a
study has found. It means there could be around seven times
more billions of life-bearing planets than is currently believed.
Potentially habitable rocky planets are said to lie in the "Goldilocks zone"
able to support surface liquid water. Several such worlds have already been
discovered. But including the possibility of life below the ground means the
Goldilocks zone can be wider, thereby increasing the number of planets on which
organisms could dwell.
Mars may be the closest planet where life exists below the
surface as shown by finger-like water streaks five yards wide on crater
wall.
On Earth, living microbes are found at depths of up to around five
kilometers. How far below the surface organisms can survive depends on warmth
both from a planet's star, and interior geothermal heating. "We have
developed a new model to show how Goldilocks zones can be calculated for
underground water and hence life," said lead researcher Sean
McMahon, from the University of Aberdeen's School of
Geosciences."Billions more habitable planets exist if you are
prepared to take into account sub-surface life." Mr. McMahon, a
Ph.D. University of Aberdeen student reports, If the planets are
large enough their interiors could be warmed by geothermal forces
alone.
From Barbara Wade Quoting: "Alexandra Petri, Published: May
3, 2013 in Washington Post stated in part, 'The activist Stephen
Bassett observed that the UFO subject is a third rail for media and public
officials. You can be gay and have five wives and you can do anything and get
out of the closet on it and itll be no problem but this watch out, your
careers on the line. The social opprobrium attached to this issue
was launched in 1953 little green men ha ha.' "
AND people like me (abductee/contactee) are so mixed up that
they can't even keep appointments accurately. My eye doctor had to call me
yesterday, because I was late for my appointment. I was ABDUCTED and the ETs
didn't get me back home in time. Fortunately, I live near the doctor's office,
so I was only 20 minutes late. It raises ***LL with anything I want to do
normally
I hope the government has full disclosure soon. I have gotten so that I tell
my doctors about it, whether they want to hear it or not.
To show what my life is like at home: Once I shut off my PC at
1:00 AM, and walked straight across the living room to the bedroom. I didn't
stop for anything. When I got to the bedroom DAYLIGHT WAS COMING THROUGH THE
BLINDS, and the clock on the bed table said 6:00AM! The ETs just picked me up
and put me back without me knowing it.
Another time, my car was zigzagged across highway I-17 here in AZ, coming
from a UFO Conference in 2012. It was out of my control and even locked itself
in reverse and went backwards.
There must be thousands of us abductees, yet governments won't admit it. Now
that I am older, it is beginning to affect my health. I don't bounce back from
those "flights" as well as I used to
Barbara Wade (one of my cartoons above)
Time is Created by Us
Professor Dr. Wubbo J. Ockels is
a Dutch physicist, and also the Netherlands original astronaut. He is a
Professor of Aerospace Sustainable Engineering and Technology at the University
of Delft, and tries to stimulate a mentality change among Dutch citizens. In his
mind-bending TEDxAmsterdam talk, Ockels explains how, Time is
created by human beings, as a way our brains can make sense of gravity. The
speed of light is constant, because it is made by us: its the clock by which we
have calibrated our existence. Based on this premise, Ockels proposes a new way
to explore life in our galaxy.
With a different gravity the aliens have a different time and we
dont see each other.
Earth is unique since most of the universe is space.
Note: It appears the astronaut is aware of time travel by
extraterrestrials. Our measurement of the speed of light is based on our time.
It may be different in alien time.
Three Humongous
TriangularUFOs
Meadowlands, NJ -- Rosalba Emmanuel-King writes, Dear
George thank you sooo much for your web site I love it and look forward to
reading it every time u send it.
Having seen three humongous triangular UFOs myself I look forward to your
emails for years now. It was in 1994, that I witnessed three tremendous UFOs
appearing thru a clear blue July sky. A part of the triangle showed then the
entire thing appeared three times. All three triangles showed up in formation
then suddenly turned on an angle and disappeared from site. I was at the
Meadowlands horse stables in the middle of the afternoon rollerblading. I
couldn't believe what I was seeing. They were larger that the stadiums there
grey with a light on each corner red yellow green. They had a grid underneath
them like Star Wars. I havent been the same since. I know theyre out there.
I also had an out of body experience in 1979. I must have died and came out
of my body as a ghost like transparent version of myself. I could still see and
hear only I was transparent. I know your daughters are still living only in a
different form. They must be sooo proud of you.
One time in 1993, I flat lined on an operating table. I woke up and the nurse
told me they thought they lost me. I told her I had seen Jesus in a dream. We
were in a cold climate like Himalayas with mountains. He put His arm beckoning
me to come to him. He was in front of what looked to me like a crowd of people
from that area. There was a river he wanted me to cross but that's when I woke
up and was revived. I'm not crazy I'm a college professor for 30 years. I just
wanted you to know that there is much more to this life than we know. Keep the
faith and you will see your family again guaranteed. God Bless you.
Much love Rosalba Emmanuel-King.
Space
Center
Letter
Dear George;
Thank you for the ufo information, it is very interesting to me
since I worked on space programs @ Astro space Center & NASA.
I have been very interested in space & ufo's, they are out
there, and I am always looking out there for them. Happy 4th
of July to you also.
Thanks to Norm
Anti Ballistic Missile Fails
Vandenberg Air Force Base, California (Reuters / Gene
Blevins)
A $214-million test launch of the only US defense against long-range
ballistic missile attacks failed to hit its target over the Pacific Ocean,
according to the Missile Defense Agency. There have been no successful
interceptor tests since 2008.
In Friday's test, a ground-based interceptor missile was launched from
Vandenberg Air Force Base in California and was expected to hit its target a
missile launched 4,000 miles away from the Kwajalein Atoll.
Its the third consecutive failure involving the interceptor system managed
by Boeing Co.
The military has tested the so-called ground-based midcourse defense system
sixteen times. It has succeeded eight times, with the last intercept in December
2008.
The recent failure comes several months after the Pentagon announced plans to
spend $1 billion to add 14 new interceptors along the West Coast in response to
threats from North Korea.
The US currently has 26 interceptors deployed at Fort Greely in Alaska and
four at Vandenberg Air Force Base, California. The Obama administration plans 44
interceptors by 2017.
An intercept was not achieved, the Defense
Department said, we will conduct anextensive review to
determine the cause of any anomalies which may have prevented a successful
intercept.
Crop Circles
There are few mysteries more accessible than crop circles.
Each spring and summer these enigmatic patterns appear overnight in crop fields,
particularly around the Avebury landscape temple in Wiltshire, England. We have
access to the information network that provides breaking news on the latest
formations and where possible we enter these beautiful creations within hours of
their forming, when the energy of a genuine formation is at its strongest.
Cosmic works of art, ET communications in sacred geometric
format, or a warning voice from Gaia, whatever your opinion crop
circles are fascinating and truly remarkable.
This part of England is also home to some of the worlds most powerful
ancient sacred sites including Stonehenge, Avebury and Glastonbury. We will take
time to truly experience these places of power including private access
to Stonehenge. Being based close to the World Heritage Site of
Avebury Landscape Temple we have daily access to such sites as
Silbury Hill, West Kennet Long Barrow and the Sanctuary. In
historic Glastonbury we will visit the Abbey, Chalice
Well and Tor.
Were also offering a pre-tour extension to the prestigious Summer
Crop Circle Lectures where you will hear fascinating presentations and
meet the presenters as well as all the other ardent croppies. A great time is
had by all!. Thanks to newsletter@greatmystery.org
UFO/UAP Symposium Was Held in Greensboro, North
Carolina
The 2013 UFO/UAP Symposium was held in Greensboro, North
Carolina on June 29th and 30th. Kent Senter, co-founder
of MUFON-North Carolina, and Journalist and UFO Researcher, Leslie Kean,
arranged the symposium. They provided attendees with a guest speaker list
comprised of various experts and government officials from the USA, France,
England, Belgium and Chile who provided an academic approach to the longstanding
problem of what the human race needs to do about the UFO problem and its current
and future impact on Earth. The symposium included discussions on the need to
set up a government agency designed to study UFOs and devise a method for
detecting them on a large scale and making their findings available to the
public. It was noted that other countries have set up official agencies to
study the problem. The tone of the meeting was serious. No vendors were in
attendance and media were asked to give due respect to the symposium and not
minimize the seriousness of the symposium in their reports to the public.
The guest speakers included General Wilfried de Brouwer, Dr. Richard Haines,
Leslie Kean, Jose Lay, Dr. Alexander Wendt, Colonel Charles Halt, Xavier Passot,
Dr. Ron Westrum, Timothy Good, Nancy Talbot and Dr. Jeffrey Bennet. Among this
group were scientists, professors, pilots, a journalist, writers, field
investigators and high-ranking military officials. The symposium was recorded
and DVDs are expected to be made available through the Center for UFO Research
www.cufornc.com.
Thanks to Alan Caviness www.CavinessReport.com
Sightings in the United States
California Orb
DANA POINT -- My girlfriend and I were sitting on my deck
chatting 500 feet from the Pacific Ocean on July 5, 2013 when we saw a very
bright gold light. It was an overcast night. We knew immediately it was not a
commercial aircraft. The light was extremely bright and after several seconds
over viewing it, a second light of the same color appeared to the right of it.
The two lights appeared to come closer to our location but it would stop and
hover. There was no sound. The two lights then turned into a row of several
angled lights (4-6). It appeared to us the object was banking and flying in a
higher altitude. It was soundless and the lights began blinking until it simply
went dark. We both took pictures with our cell phones. Thanks to MUFON CMS
San Leandro -- The bright light was coming over the
horizon from Half Moon Bay Mountains. The light hovered there for 30 minutes.
Then reduced in size and started floating to the left very slowly then
disappeared. I watch planes take off and land every day. The next day I saw
another one but it floated closer to where I was and I was able to show my son
and it was huge I sent the footage and I have a lot more doing some crazy
things. The objects seem to disappear into thin air after a while.
Illinois Orange Orb
FRANKFORT -- Sitting on front porch, facing east on July 2,
2013, I saw a very bright object. There were no other objects or clouds in
the sky.
The object moved SE to NE, passing behind trees.
Elapsed time from first sight until disappearance was two minutes. It
traveled horizontally and got progressively smaller and appeared to vanish in NE
sky. Thanks to MUFON CMS
Indiana White
Cylinders
Blanford Richard Bondira writes, On the evening of July 3, 2013, at
10:30 PM, I took the following photos. What is good is that I was able to follow
the UFO, observe it, and take these photos all at the same time. There are also
buildings and telephone poles, etc. by which size and distance might be judged.
I first saw the UFO while I was in the parking lot at the local Wal-Mart on the
west side of Clinton, Indiana which is six miles east of Blanford, where I
live.
The object moved from west to east. By the time it got to the east end of
town it changed color from white to orange. The sky had grown darker with the
last of the twilight's last gleaming. That might account for the color change.
The photos showing the UFO orange in color were taken when I was in the parking
lot for the Chateau Apartments on the east end of town. The thing kept going
east until out of sight. The last three photos are blurry from being enlarged.
Take care. Richard Bondira
Jasonville On July 6th, 2013 during the
annual local fireworks display I noticed a yellowish glowing object coming in
from the West of the fireworks display. I had thought it was fireworks but it
was descending then leveling off.
I didnt say anything about it at the time, but upon reviewing the video
clips I was surprises to have captured it. Thanks to MUFON CMS
Kansas Odd
Object
Coffeville On July8, 2013, at 8:55 pm, I was taking out garbage when a large
grey object caught my eyes. I thought it was a balloon but there was a dead
calm, just a steady straight flight path. I ran back into my house and grabbed a
camera to take this photo.
Flight was straight north ran to back of house to get more pictures. Thanks
to MUFON CMS
Kentucky
Light
Calvert
City -- Was watching Town Fireworks Display
at 9 PM and noticed this very bright object that was definitely not Fireworks
related. It had a flight path and came in from the west and circled the area, then flew back
and I observed it until it was out of sight. It was circular in shape, although
not a perfect circle. It glowed a very bright orange which pulsated to a very
bright red aura around it. I did not mention it to anyone else because I was
afraid that they would think I saw Fireworks and was mistaken. Thanks to MUFON
CMS
Maine Bullet
west paris -- I walked outside and looked
up in the sky and noticed this bullet shape object flying in the clouds. I went
in to get my camera, took a picture and it disappeared. I came back inside and
then went back outside and in the same spot I saw the other one. This one was
way bigger and I knew I could get some pictures of it.
So I ran inside got my camera and this is what I saw. Thanks to MUFON CMS
Maryland
Ellicot City -- Earlier in May, my mother
heard about the Balloon Glow and suggested that we go check it out. On the 17th,
we drove out to Howard Co and I took my photographs at 9-10 PM. I was working on
my last set: a hot-air balloon was floating up into the night sky, when I saw a
rotating, flashing light. It reminded me of one of those light up toys you can
buy at the circus where lights flash off and on, spinning quickly in a circle.-I
had no idea what it was, but I fired a few photographs off. The balloon sailed
down and landed, but the lit object in the sky was gone.
In the next few days, I set up Adobe Photoshop and began fixing up a few
photographs. I brightened the one in question, a shape became visible. The
object has a definite shape, the classical UFO look. I brought my Mom over to
check the files and she seemed as stunned as I am. Thanks to MUFON CMS
Nebraska Moving
Objects
OMAHA -- Watching fireworks on July 4,
2013, I noticed strange objects appearing over another apartment complex. They
were appearing and then wouldnt for a couple of minutes. I was able to record a
video of the objects moving fast left to right and shoot a couple of pictures,
but it was just weird. At one point a small does appear near them. Thanks to
MUFON CMS
New Jersey Black
Object
Rumson -- On July 3, 2013, I had my
second sighting in four days just a few miles near the Atlantic Highlands.
While driving in a car talking to my friend about the first sighting, they
appeared again. This time a dark object was photographed.
Should have stopped car but we were in shock.
Thanks to MUFON CMS
North Carolina Reddish Orange Fog
Cloud
Elizabeth city
-- My wife and I were outside on the deck watching the thunderstorm
approach on June 29, 2013. Out of nowhere a reddish orange fog or cloud
appeared. It started out dull in brightness but soon got brighter and brighter
and was in my opinion roughly 10 to 15 miles away. As it was becoming brighter
it was making its way towards our direction from the southwest. It was roughly
1/4 of a mile from us.
This event lasted roughly 10 minutes and it gave my wife and I a strong
feeling of eeriness as it was making progress towards us and becoming bigger and
bigger. The weird thing is we never saw a distinct detailed craft, we only saw a
glowing fog or cloud that seemed to have intelligent control. This dense fog or
cloud just dissipated after getting that close to us and it took roughly 2-3
seconds for it to disappear. If anything has any idea what this was please add
on your opinion. Also there was no noise only a creepy feeling. Thanks to MUFON
CMS
Raleigh Moving orange
lights were observed around 10:00 pm EST on July 4th.
Thanks to Frank Chilli
Ohio Cylinder
Strongsville -- Julie Semon writes,
Here are some pictures taken this week by my step-daughter just
before a 4th of July celebration.
Best regards, Julie Semon
Pennsylvania Orange
Lights and Disk
Pittsburgh I was
downtown on "South Shore" for fireworks of July 4th and were leaving
Station Square on the waterfront when the lights came into view. The lights were
over the hills to the east/southeast while the fireworks had been set off in the
West. I observed a "string" of yellow/orange/red lights with a cluster of lights
at one end. I took many pictures with the camera in my phone and told my family
to look up. They also saw the moving lights descend behind the hills except a
few as I walked and stopped.
The cluster disappeared and only a couple remained and seemed smaller. The
last observation I made was of a triangle shape of three lights moving north.
The triangle passed overhead with three lights moving slow as if attached to a
structure. I could not see any body of a craft, just dark between the lights. No
stars were visible lights were enlarged. Thanks to MUFON CMS
WEST LAWN -- I was outside in my backyard and was engaged
cooking on my grill. Sitting down on my swing facing South I noticed a small
silver dot flying at high altitude from the South at not a greater speed than an
aircraft but on a course not noticed on normal flight path of general jet
aircraft routinely flying at that altitude. As the unknown was heading toward my
position it slowed and hovered. I let my wife know and got a camera. I was able
to get photos of the object, some are impressive by any standard, and I cropped
the image and got a shape of what was witnessed but not close enough for true
detail. Approximately 3 minutes after 33 photos were taken the object went west
slowly at first then gained speed faster than any conventional aircraft I have
ever witnessed. Thanks to MUFON CMS
South Carolina Lights
MYRTLE
BEACH -- While working as a private security
contractor at an apartment complex along Burcale Road on July 3, 2013, I was
talking to a colleague when I observed four brilliantly lit objects moving
northwest. I asked my colleague if he was seeing the same objects and he stated
yes he saw them also.
The objects appeared orb like and had a brilliant
white light that appeared to turn amber along the very outer edge of the light
then would go back to white light.
There was no sound associated with the objects and they moved much slower
than an aircraft. Their track took them through, what I know to be the flight
path for incoming aircraft into Myrtle Beach International airport. My first
thought was they were aircraft, flying dangerously close to each other, with
very bright landing lights. But their path was towards Conway, SC and away from
the airport.
My colleague and I moved closer and tried to take a picture. I could see that
there were now only three objects. I snapped the picture. It fell straight down
and was trailing what he called "sparks." My colleague and I are both veterans
and both stated that the objects resembled a star cluster flare, used by U. S.
military aircraft. Thanks to MUFON CMS
Texas Green Orbs
At 9:13 PM, I noticed a flashing white and blue orb for
about 32 seconds on July 4, 2013, then kept seeing two green orbs flying
somewhat side by side for about four minutes. I was watching the orchestra
perform and spotted them overhead.
Since I have had two other UFO sightings, I immediately knew there were UFOs.
The green orbs were moving very randomly everywhere until they disappeared. The
blue and white flashing orb was flashing very rapidly and was not flashing in
any sequence. Since I have seen UFOs before I was not frightened or disturbed in
any way. I lost the green orbs as they departed west into the treetops. I lost
the orb when it disappeared into the trees Thanks to MUFON CMS
Vermont Cylinders
BENNINGTON I was at Somerset National
Forest sitting in a chair watching the sun come up on June 31, 2013, when over a
river I noticed the objects. They were hovering over the river just a stones
throw away. They would move up and down, sideways, and sat there for about a
half hour until I realized I should take some pictures. I reached in the camper
and grabbed my camera and sat back down in my chair and started to take
pictures. I took 20 pictures and then got up and walked to the edge of the river
and took more pictures. I have zoomed on my camera and many pictures are of when
I zoomed.
At one point one of them raised up a little and came in my direction. I got
the feeling it was looking me over but I heard no noise and saw no emissions. I
was not scared at all just curious. I am 68 years old and took about 38
pictures. Thanks to MUFON CMS
Worldwide UFO
Reports
Australia
Three Triangles
Port Macquarie --After leaving Coles
convenience store at 18:30 on June 4, 2013, with two of my roommates in their
car, my female roommate saw two red lights and one brighter white light in a
triangular formation hovering in the dark near the airport and Hastings River
Drive. I then looked as it moved up and over until it was upside down. We then entered the roundabout and lost
sight of the lights.
Heading up Widerson Street I spotted the triangle
lights lower and closer to us, almost as if following behind us. Panic kicked in
so my female roommate and I stopped looking.
We arrived home and ten
minutes later my female roommate peered out the curtain of a window facing west
and again the triangle lights hovering low were 75 meters away. The three of us
saw it. I got out my phone to capture the UFO on camera it had
vanished.
All three of us have spiritual beliefs close to spiritualist.
The night before we witnessed the UFO I had an extremely lucid dream with white
light pouring from the windows and a tall and 'lanky' grey being entered my
room. I felt no fear just excitement and curiosity as it approached. It seemed
to communicate without sound. I conversed with it for what seemed like hours
before it left.
The dream then speed forwards to the next night. My mother was now also in
the house with me as the light poured in the windows. My mother was scared for
my safety as I walked outside into the light and conversed with the same entity
outside and introduced my mother to my friend.
SHAW -- I took shots of the rainbow, and
then noticed there were odd orbs hovering around on August 2008. The first shot
has two orbs above the rainbow; the second has one down by the lower left as
always, silent.
I didn't notice them till I looked at the photos...it wasn't raining or
anything, so they're not water, and I doubt their planets.
Thanks to Dana Fitzgerald
COBOURG -- This is quite interesting confirming a couple
points There is certainly a wide spread presence here in southern Ontario near
Lake Ontario. These have been only night time sightings of slow bright white
lights. Most have been captured with the aid of photographic evidence. While at
some friends visiting in Cobourg, I met another Experiencer and we noticed a
strange slow light heading east. I pulled out my camera as it stopped then
instantly moved on. This light was captured on June 30, 2013, at 12:48 am. We
observed a LARGE breath taking white -amber meteor coming down on an angle from
northwest and a clicking sound near the house.
It just keeps coming showing no signs in slowing down. Enjoy Paul Shishis
China Orbs and
Cigar
Am I the only person who looks into the sky in China? I know what a planes
Chinese lantern looks like......I should do, I live in China. In the last
six months I have seen 3 red orbs 1 cigar shaped UFO and a silvery grey orb that
was quite low. Tonight, Tuesday at 9pm I saw a light going over Shanghai
although this one seemed to be very high and I know it was not a shooting star
as it moved quite slowly. I think the only thing I can do is spend a bit of time
with my video camera in the evenings and record some of these things.
Best regards, Paul Clemit
France Egg
Puget-Theniers -- Ufo behind my camera on solar halo on June
2, 2013, at 12:55 PM Today, I have a lunch with my family. Suddenly, I saw a
huge halo around the sun, inside the halo, the sky was gray, but around the
halo, the sky was perfect blue. And the halo was perfectly in circle around the
sun!
In front of this spectacle, I took my camera and I took two photos.
One at 12:54 pm, and the second at 12:55 pm. At first, I did not see it, but
when I looked at the photography, I can SEE what seems like an UFO. Thanks to
Peter Davenport, Director National UFO Reporting Center http://www.UFOcenter.com
Germany Light
Berlin On June 14. 2013, at 11 pm, I saw
an object that looked like a satellite in the sky moving south / southeast. I
made a few steps from of my car to follow its way across the horizon, then the
light made two little moves on its way to the east and I had to change my
viewpoint to follow its way to the horizon. Then it made a little curve
correction to the west and then again to the east and I had to make a step more
to follow it until it reached the horizon above some roofs.
This light
was looking bright like a satellite in a really dark sky. The sky above Berlin
was gray at this time. I realized that it changed in a second. This wasn't a
satellite or a plane and was silent. Thanks to Peter Davenport, Director
National UFO Reporting Center http://www.UFOcenter.com
Israel Light
Hebron -- My friend and I were going to
from Kiryat Araba to deliver pizza like usual on June 3, 2013. I was in the
passenger seat when we saw the orange and red light in the sky above us to the
left. There were twenty orange red lights in the sky. We saw it for about 15
minutes then it was gone! Thanks to Peter Davenport, Director National UFO
Reporting Center http://www.UFOcenter.com
New Zealand Worms
Richard
L Pinfold South Pacific Research writes, For those who are following
the Worm phenomena on this excellent site: view the clip on YouTube .titled
Cloaked UFO, Italy, from street view you are looking at part of what this
gigantic entity repeats each time it manifests itself to the human eye In this
screen capture, you are only seeing one quarter of what is happening namely the
gigantic extremely fat warty marshmallow contrail-like arched column They are
in fact the culmination of snail eye stalk-like object that erupts from the
main body They start off thin, and then over about 30 seconds, swell to
enormous thickness. Then hang statically for a further amount of time, before
the total object suddenly relocates in my observation, 20 ms in two seconds .
These are NOT contrails, but remnants of the original vision. Look closely at
where the ends terminate and you will detect a foggy/misty boundary, this is
where the main Body is hidden Cant define it here, but I stood right under
its leading edge, looking up its side Richard L Pinfold, New
Zealand.
Romania Orange Orbs
Vaslui-- I want to share with you an
experience I had on 29th to 30th June 2013, at 2 am. I saw on the wall a glow
and got out of my bed and went to the window to see where the light was coming
from. There were two ambulances across the street. I looked up to the sky and I
saw a lot of bright lights, too bright to be stars. I clearly saw 15 bright
globes standing next to each other with no precise disposal.
I took the camera quickly and started to shoot. My hands were shaking. They
started to move slowly in groups of 3 to 4 silently while the others remained in
place. Some moved parallel to my building; others went above it and disappeared.
I saw clearly one that was clearly an ovoid ship's shape in a light color.
They were so beautiful, so bright! Unfortunately, my shooting wasnt very
precise for about 15 minutes. When I downloaded the movie to my computer I
noticed they were red and flashing, but in reality their light was very bright
and stable. Heres the video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5B1JV8691s&feature=youtu.be
That morning I was astonished to find out that my boyfriend had heard
a whizzing sound, in his head that was a way for extraterrestrial beings to
communicate.
Thanks Campanu Anca and FrankChilli
UK England Triangle
Hull On July 2, 2013, at 1.32 AM, July
2 2013 I was in my garden waiting for my dog to go about its business before
bedtime. So while I waited I looked up towards the stars and noticed what I
believed was a satellite moving North when all of a sudden I saw a large black
triangle with three fuzzy red lights on each corner pass over my house
silently. Even my dog didnt raise his head. The triangle was transparent
and the stars could be seen through it. If I was to guess the objects size I
would probably be wrong, but it was close enough and large enough to see its
shape and lights. Thanks to MUFON CMS
Conferences
Francois
Louange, Ph.D MUFONs Keynote Speaker was born in Versailles in 1945.
After scientific studies in Grenoble, he qualified as a Doctor-Engineer
(Ph.D.) in signal processing, in 1968. He joined the European Space Agency,
where he worked on satellite data processing. In 1977, the French Space Agency
created a department in charge of collecting and analyzing data about
Unidentified Aerospace Phenomena. After a few promising years, its resources
decreased. In 2001, under pressure to stop this borderline activity. Dr.
Louange was brought in to audit
the research and that resulted in the creation of a new department in 2005.
The GEIPAN is now working under control of a Steering Committee and with support
from several external groups. Most data are collected through official channels
and, after analysis; cases are sorted into categories and published on the
Internet. As a consultant to GEIPAN, Dr. Louange built up an analysis
methodology through the development of a dedicated software ( www.ipaco.fr),
derived from an established image intelligence operational tool. www.MUFONsymposium.com
I was sitting at my desk, pondering how I could get people
interested in getting my work of the last thirteen years. I have put together a
DVD of Filer's Files with hundreds of great photographs and UFO sightings.
Additionally, I have decided to include my book within the DVD
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John, You Have Preliminarily Concluded That They Are Not Built by Or Under Control Of Any Human Beings. - I Would Agree With That, Daniel.
Nuclear Physicist, Lecturer Stanton Friedman vs
Retired Colonel Dr John Alexander Phd
This week with begin with an article
and video by Jose Escamilla the discoverer of Rods. Next,
Diane Tessman wonders if Earth had two moons in ancient times
and if aliens are part of God's domain? Then, Scott Corrales
reports on witnesses to a 1997 sighting in Argentina. Chris
Holly writes about Flying Buildings as UFOs and reports that Orbs have
returned to Long Island. Steve Erdmann publishes part II of the
Octopus from Hell. Next, Sean Casteel interviews Dr. Barry
Taff, a veteran of the Psychic Wars. Doc Vega contributes Parts
IV and V of his UFOs, Vikings and Bigfoot series. Roger Marsh
reports on a UFO with possible appendages. John Foster comments
on his upcoming talk at the Psychic Studies Institute. Tony
Elliott sets the record straight on ET Abductio ns and so on.
Vinodprasad Petwal writes about UFO-aliens and ancient gods.
Brad Steiger is back with a review of his Real Aliens, Space
Beings, and Creatures from Other Worlds. Shy Brown continues
with her series From the Journal of Cheetah
and Jane. I discovered
3 great articles I believe you will like. Enjoy Dirk
Jose Escamilla's Rods vs
Monster Questby Jose Escamilla. Exposing the injustice imposed
on the RODS phenomena by Monsterquest and The History Channel. More...
Earth: Did We Have Binary
Moons?by Diane Tessman. Did Earth have two moons in ancient
times? Mars has two mysterious moons, Phobos and Diemos, both of which seem to
be mostly hollow; there has been much speculation that one or both of these
Martian moons is artificially made by an alien race. There have been similar
theories stating that our moon is hollow and rings (reverberates) when
impacted. Now there is new information about our moon: It might have had a
companion moon millions of years ago. More... Also
read: Are Aliens Part of
Gods Domain?
Witness Discusses 1997
Sighting in Argentinaby Scott Corrales. When I read Mrs.
Angela de Ponces letter to El Tribuno on 27 June, I decided to tell my own
story, said Roberto Moreira, a retired carbonated beverages worker who lives in
the town of Mariano Moreno. Its true. When people hear the story, they laugh
or dont think its true. But I would be willing to place my hand on the Bible
for what Im going to tell you. I am not going to lie to God. More...
Are Flying Buildings the New
UFOs?by Chris Holly. A few years ago I wrote about the reports
I was being sent from people all over the world telling me that they had the
strangest of strange sightings. The people were reporting large floating or
flying buildings. The reports I was receiving were similar in the fact that the
craft or structure they were seeing were rectangle in shape, slow in movement
and silent as they made their way across the sky. More... Also
read: The
UFOs Have Returned Long Island NY
The Octopus from Hell Part
IIby Steve Erdmann . Chemical magnate Al Holbert was a former
Israeli intelligence officer who gave special education classes to law
enforcement agencies in the U.S. His address was Fort Mead, home of the
Intelligence Security Comand and Delta Force. Holbert exported cryptic
substances out of his mail-order chemical outfit. Danny Casolaro carted about
a transcript of Octopus connections and Riconosciuto interviews at the DOJ: a
month before his death. More...
Dr. Barry Taff: A Veteran Of
The Psychic Warsby Sean Casteel. Dr. Barry Taff has been on
the forefront of the academic study of psychic phenomena for decades and has
long documented the connection between psi events and UFOs. His own psychic
experiences began in childhood, and he has no doubt of the reality of some form
of coupling between human consciousness and a field of energy that we do not as
yet understand. More...
UFOs, Vikings and BigFoots
Part Vby Doc Vega. The Ibn Fadian manuscript has been the
subject of much study, the tracing of its authenticity through history, and
careful scrutiny by scholars of universities in many countries make it a
precious record. It survives the ages as one of the most compelling first hand
accounts of ancient civilizations and even very good evidence that the
Neanderthal supposedly cousins of man still survived in a tribe in 928 A.D.
Despite the widespread dominance of modern man this manuscript holds evidence
that one particular holdout of Neanderthals not only existed in a war-like
society, but actually raided human beings much like the Vikings raided our
ancestors on the coasts of Great Britain. More... Also
read: UFOs,
Vikings and Bigfoots? Part IV
Weird Object with Possible
Appendages Photographed in Flushing, Queens, New Yorkby Roger
Marsh. A New York family walking through Flushing, Queens, reported
watching and photographing a "strange organic-type UFO with appendages" about
5:40 p.m. on June 5, 2013, according to testimony from the Mutual UFO Network
(MUFON) witness reporting database. More...
Comments posted concerning
John Foster's upcoming talk to the Psychic Studies Instituteby John
Foster. Just thought you might be interested in the opinion of a former UFO
investigator, author, editor for the Human Potential Foundation which was
founded by Senator Scott Jones and financed by Lawrence Rockefeller to keep
President Clinton informed of new and developing new science and UFO activity in
the United States. His opinion of my story, so-called UFO encounters and my
upcoming talk to the Psychic Studies Institute in Kansas City are on the link
below. He is a very knowledgeable man, an accomplished investigator/researcher
and has a little different take on UFO encounters. More...
Setting The Record Straight,
The Misconceptions Of ET Abductions And Religious Superstitionsby
Tony Elliott . I have been a UFO, paranormal, strange phenomena researcher
and investigator for decades, having had many experiences in this genre from
sightings of many strange objects; a Sasquatch sighting, aura visions, and a
vast array of paranormal encounters of my own. As far as the extraterrestrial
experience in general and abductions as they are called in particular goes, I
find that many in this business are misguided. They make fantastic claims for
personal monitory gains, come to the table with preordained ideas which are
clouded by their personal belief systems, and above all a lack of understanding
of the visitor phenomena. More...
UFO-Aliens and Ancient
Godsby Vinodprasad Petwal. I am a citizen of INDIA and I had
contacted with the aliens [ancient gods] in USA in Missouri near Kansas city in
2008 by spiritual power [consciousness of mind that is opening of 3rd eye]. More...
Real Aliens, Space Beings, and
Creatures from Other Worlds: Reviewby Brad Steiger. The July
2013 issue of Fortean Times' Book Review section contains a very nice review of
Brad and Sherry Steigers' Real Aliens, Space Beings, and Creatures from Other
Worlds entitled, "A taxonomy of aliens: A good starting point for folklorists
and others who can't tell their blonde Nordics from their inter-dimensional
beings. More...
From the Journal of Cheetah
and Jane: Staring Death in the Face part oneby Shy Brown. I
was about five years old when Mother had to leave to see her older sister,
Gladys, for the last time. It would be a long trip traveling by bus from Plant
City, Florida to Montreal, Canada. Mother decided to take me with her rather
than leave me with my three brothers. Since Father was the owner of a
construction company and this required long hours, Mother had hired a woman to
take care of my three brothers. More...
Ireland Claims UFO Sighting 5
Days After Roswell - Blarney!by Dirk Vander Ploeg. An
interesting piece of Irish curio was unearthed by the Irish blog Broadsheet this
week in the shape of an Irish Times clipping from July 12, 1947. The clippings
headline reads: Flying Saucer Seen in County Kerry More... Also
read: Google
Celebrates Roswell 66th Anniversary with Google Doodle! And: Snowden
reveals UFO Documents
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regular readers of the UFO Digest newsletter could you please forward a copy to
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Dr. Clarke, I Neither Confirm Nor Deny!
André,
The quote about the number of FOI
requests on UFOs came from the Under Secretary of State for Defence, who is
certainly a better source on this issue than any
ufologist:
I'm happy for you to share my comments
with interested parties. I don't normally have time to read (let alone respond
to) what ufologists write about me in the blogosphere, but given that I worked
on MoD's UFO project, wrote many of the files that have recently been released
and have been involved in release program, people look to me to correct any
dishonest or mistaken claims that are being made on the subject. It's pretty
insulting to the hundreds of other members of the public, journalists and
ufologists who lobbied MoD on this issue and made FOI requests, if one ufologist
tries to take credit for MoD releasing its UFO files!
Further details
about the background to the MoD UFO file release program can be found
here:
======================================== Message Received: Jul 05 2013,
06:02 PM From: "André Skondras" To: "Nick Pope" Cc: Subject: Re:
Dr. Clarke, I Neither Confirm Nor Den Hi Nick:
Thanks
for your additional comments. However, I heard from a source that the number one
category of FOIA request was actually personnel
records requests.
I
suppose the info you provided can't be share with other interested
parties?
Kind
regards.
André
Op
05 Jul 2013, om 09:24 heeft Nick Pope het volgende geschreven:
André,
A couple of factual corrections to
Billy Cox's article:
1. Dave Clarke is most certainly not a
professor. He's what Americans would call a lecturer at a Community College (UK
"polytechnics" like the one where he teaches won the right to call themselves
universities many years ago).
2. Clarke was one of literally hundreds of
people making FOI requests to the MoD about UFOs in the run-up to the decision
to release the files. Writing in 2006, Under
Secretary of State for Defense Tom Watson said: There is a real and enduring interest in
Unidentified Flying Objects. By far the most popular topic of FOI requests has
been UFOs, followed by recruitment enquiries, enquiries from staff, and
historical events such as World War Two, the Falklands conflict and the
Balkans. Recent freedom of information releases on UFOs have attracted media
interest from as far away as Japan.
This is what led the MoD to decide to transfer
its UFO files to the National Archives and if Clarke is claiming the credit for
this, he's either being dishonest or incredibly naïve.
Best wishes,
Nick Pope
======================================== Subject: Dr. Clarke, I Neither Confirm
Nor Deny!
David Clarke, the tireless Sheffield Hallam University professor whose
decade-long quest in getting his countrys National Archives to release UFO
files compiled by the British Ministry of Defence, reached the end of the road
on June 23 with a final data-dump into the public domain. And he signed off on
that last batch with I-told-you-so relish. There were no smoking guns amid the
52,000 pages released since the incremental undertaking began in 2009, and even
veteran British researcher Jenny Randles lauded Clarkes persistence.
To much fanfare, the British Ministry of Defence finally ended the public
distribution of its largely banal and pedestrian UFO case files last
month/CREDIT:superscholar.org
I may not agree with everything that he says on the subject but I do with
much of it and respect all of his views about the remainder, she wrotein an
addendum to Clarkes parting shots. I certainly know that he is nobodys
puppet. And I, for one, say thank you for his efforts.
Based solely on the evidence presented by UK authorities and the MoDs
ostensible exculpatory transparency Clarkes obituary on that nations ufology
would appear well sourced. But by pulling in some American Skeptical Inquirer
types to fortify his position, Clarke clearly overreaches in his alacrity to
settle the worldwide UFO problem once and for all. No room, of course, for the testimony of former Belgian Air
Force general Wilfried de Brouwerconcerning the F-16 scrambles during 1989-90
European wave, orflight-safety issues raised by
former NASA scientist Richard Haines, both of whom presented their evidence
at a symposium just last weekend in Greensboro, N.C. Truth is, you could spend
all night listing Clarke's points of omission and it wouldnt make a dime's
worth of difference here. Not when you forsake good data and credible witnesses
for shopworn cliches, as Clarke chose to.
... My favourite quote of the whole two day media event, he wrote of the
reception to the final MoD document delivery, came from the New York Times as
follows: Dr. Clarke, who has approached the UFO phenomenon from a sociological
perspective, noted that many UFO sightings came from the Scottish city of
Glasgow between 10 p.m. and midnight around the time the pubs are
closing.
Wow. Drunk eyewitnesses again. Fascinating. Zzzz.
Clarke also took a few shots at fellow British ufologists Nick Pope and
Timothy Good for holding preconceived beliefs in their failure to trust The
Official Story because it is in their interest [as UFO authors] to keep the
mystery alive and kicking.
Clarke draws a particularly critical bead on Pope, who anchored the MoDs UFO
desk from 1991-94. He charges Pope with hypocrisy for requesting that his own
UFO-related records remain exempt from disclosure.
The reason these papers are being with-held, Clarke alleges, is because
they contain information about Nick Popes conversion to UFO believer that
followed his alien abduction experience in Florida in 1991. This happened
shortly before he joined the UFO desk when he claims he had little or no
interest in the subject.
Now thats actually interesting.
In denying the abduction story in an email to De Void I've never even seen
a UFO! Pope sought to clarify the record. To wit:
Some UK-based ufologists took exception to the fact that I used some
pseudonymous cases in my book on alien abductions, The Uninvited. I replied
that witness confidentiality applied without exception and added even if it was
me as a joke. The joke spread and I replied that I could "neither confirm nor
deny" (NCND) the rumor. NCND is a Ministry of Defense in-joke, just as I could
tell you but then I'd have to kill you is an in-joke in the intelligence
community.
The only documents that I requested the MoD withhold are ones relating to my
work as a freelance journalist, broadcaster and PR consultant. Clarke is one of
a small group of UK ufologists who are absolutely obsessed with me, in view of
my government work on UFOs. This bizarre groups of oddballs which includes a
deeply unpleasant individual who runs an anti-Semitic blog have submitted
multiple FOI requests to MoD about me and poison the blogosphere with incessant
hate-filled rantings about my government work in many people's eyes I still
work for the government and am personally responsible for the UFO cover-up! I
took the view and the MoD agreed that documents relating to my business
activities were private and should certainly not be passed to some of the more
unpleasant characters who lurk on the fringes of ufology.
Hypocrisy? Well, at the very least, it tells us the MoD still has stuff
tucked away in its UFO files. Pope also reminded De Void as indeed, Clarke
reminded his readers that Clarke never possessed a security clearance during
his UFO research and has reviewed only declassified, or unclassified,
material.
I suspect there's some sour grapes here, Pope went on, because one of the
documents in MoD's UFO files referred to Clarke and a couple of his fellow
ufologists as the UFO spotters - a pejorative UK term meaning someone with an
obsessive, nerdish and naïve perspective on the subject. It was one of my
successors who wrote that, but as I'm the 'public face' of MoD's UFO project,
ufologists tend to blame me for just about everything!
Then theres this caveat from prolific British researcher and author Good,
who greeted the MODs glasnost with a shrug: That was done in a civilian desk
within the MoD which Nick headed ... The real work is done behind the scenes
(e.g. military intelligence). You may recall that in Above Top Secret I
exposed for the first time the Top Secret UFO research unit then at RAF Rudloe
Manor (now elsewhere).
This is running long for a little blog, so lets wrap it up on a word from
Jenny Randles, who discovered something from these MoD crumbs that we Yanks
regrettably picked up on from the Pentagon decades ago, after it was far too
late: ... The MoD was never and is not now the correct body to collate such
data and spend precious resources on a subject that really needs to be
demystified and placed into the realms of scientific study.
OK, so who wants to pony up and start from scratch?
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Ik ben Pieter, en gebruik soms ook wel de schuilnaam Peter2011.
Ik ben een man en woon in Linter (België) en mijn beroep is Ik ben op rust..
Ik ben geboren op 18/10/1950 en ben nu dus 74 jaar jong.
Mijn hobby's zijn: Ufologie en andere esoterische onderwerpen.
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